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Impact of time displaced
precipitation estimates for online
updated models
Uncertainty and adaptive estimation in storm- and wastewater
system modelling
Morten Borup
DTU Environment & Krüger A/S, Veolia VWS Denmark
Morten Grum
Krüger A/S, Veolia VWS Denmark
Peter Steen Mikkelsen
DTU Environment
Rain detection for runoff modelling
Gauges: No Movement, no spatial distribution. Accurate.
Radar: Movement, Spatial distribution. Inaccurate.
Rain detection method affect nature
of model errors
GAUGES: Time displacements
RADAR: Scaling
RUNOFF
Rain detection for runoff modelling
Gauges: No Movement, no spatial distribution. Accurate.
Radar: Movement, Spatial distribution. Inaccurate.
RUNOFF
Updated online models
Can not distinguish time shifts from
magnitude errors.
Updating: Synchronization issues.
Objective:
Compare impact of time displaced
rain data with that of scaled rain
data for online updated models.
Simplification/assumptions
Gauges: No Movement, no spatial distribution. Accurate.
Radar: Movement, Spatial distribution. Inaccurate.
RUNOFF
1d setup
Movement = time displacement
Online storm water model
Model Measured
Modelled vs. Measured
Online storm water model
Model
With Updating
Analysis
Forecast
error
Online storm water model
Model
With Updating (rain gauge)
Online storm water model
Model
With Updating (RADAR)
Size of displacements
Average rain cell velocity in northern Europe 10 m/s
5 m/s not unusual
0
2
4
6
8
10
0 1 2 3
Time[min]
Distance [km]
Travel time
5 m/s
10 m/s
Methodology
011001
010011
011100
11
True rain
011001
010011
011100
11
Time displaced
rain data
011001
010011
011100
11
Biased rain
data
Model True
model
states
Updated
Model
Updated
Model
011001
010011
011100
11
Displaced
Forecast
011001
010011
011100
11
Biased
Forecast
Comparisons
Precipitation truth
Displaced rain data(rain gauge)
Biased rain
Rain data
2005)(199528184SvkPtrue −=
)()( atPtP truedisp −=
100
1),()( bias
truebias ctPctP ±=⋅=
Time Area model
Observation (true runoff)
Updated forecast model (x min. forecast)
Model
∑−=
=
t
Tcti
iP
Tc
A
tQ )()(
∑−=
=
t
Tcti
trueobs iP
Tc
A
tQ )()(
TcxforiPiP
Tc
A
tQ
t
xti
f
xt
Tcti
truex <





+= ∑∑ −=
−−
−=
,)()()(
1
Time
Area
100%
Tc
Error quantification
Forecast error
SSerr
( ) TcxforiPiP
Tc
A
iPiPiP
Tc
A
tQtQte
t
xti
ftrue
t
xti
f
xt
Tcti
true
t
Tcti
truexobs
<−=






−−=−=
∑
∑∑∑
−=
−=
−−
−=−=
)()(
)()()()()()(
1
( )∑ ∑∑ = −==
−





=
n
j
t
xti
ftrue
n
i
iPiP
Tc
A
ie
1
2
2
1
2
))()(()(
Catchment
specific
Rain estimation
error
SSerr(disp)/SSerr(bias) independent of catchment:
Direction of time displacement without importance:
No importance if bias is negative or positive:
Convenient properties
∑∑
∞
+
∞
− −=−
n
cnn
n
cnn aaaa
∑∑
∞∞
−=−
nn
PPPP 10.1*90.0*
( )
( )∑ ∑
∑ ∑
= −=
= −=






⋅−











−−





=
n
j
t
xti
ftrue
n
j
t
xti
truetrue
err
err
iPciP
Tc
A
aiPiP
Tc
A
biasSS
dispSS
1
22
1
22
)()(
)()(
)(
)(
Results
Tc = 40 minutes
Results
SSerr(disp.)= SSerr(bias)
Any TcTc = 40 minutes
Conclusion
Rain data requirements are different for updated models.
Independent of Tc:
Frequent updating/short term forecasts:
Correct timing essential ->
(1) Radar better than gauges.
(2) Many bad gauges better than few good gauges.
Infrequent updating/long forecasts:
Accuracy the more important.
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Impact of time displaced precipitation estimates for online updated models

  • 1. Impact of time displaced precipitation estimates for online updated models Uncertainty and adaptive estimation in storm- and wastewater system modelling Morten Borup DTU Environment & Krüger A/S, Veolia VWS Denmark Morten Grum Krüger A/S, Veolia VWS Denmark Peter Steen Mikkelsen DTU Environment
  • 2. Rain detection for runoff modelling Gauges: No Movement, no spatial distribution. Accurate. Radar: Movement, Spatial distribution. Inaccurate. Rain detection method affect nature of model errors GAUGES: Time displacements RADAR: Scaling RUNOFF
  • 3. Rain detection for runoff modelling Gauges: No Movement, no spatial distribution. Accurate. Radar: Movement, Spatial distribution. Inaccurate. RUNOFF Updated online models Can not distinguish time shifts from magnitude errors. Updating: Synchronization issues. Objective: Compare impact of time displaced rain data with that of scaled rain data for online updated models.
  • 4. Simplification/assumptions Gauges: No Movement, no spatial distribution. Accurate. Radar: Movement, Spatial distribution. Inaccurate. RUNOFF 1d setup Movement = time displacement
  • 5. Online storm water model Model Measured Modelled vs. Measured
  • 6. Online storm water model Model With Updating Analysis Forecast error
  • 7. Online storm water model Model With Updating (rain gauge)
  • 8. Online storm water model Model With Updating (RADAR)
  • 9. Size of displacements Average rain cell velocity in northern Europe 10 m/s 5 m/s not unusual 0 2 4 6 8 10 0 1 2 3 Time[min] Distance [km] Travel time 5 m/s 10 m/s
  • 10. Methodology 011001 010011 011100 11 True rain 011001 010011 011100 11 Time displaced rain data 011001 010011 011100 11 Biased rain data Model True model states Updated Model Updated Model 011001 010011 011100 11 Displaced Forecast 011001 010011 011100 11 Biased Forecast Comparisons
  • 11. Precipitation truth Displaced rain data(rain gauge) Biased rain Rain data 2005)(199528184SvkPtrue −= )()( atPtP truedisp −= 100 1),()( bias truebias ctPctP ±=⋅=
  • 12. Time Area model Observation (true runoff) Updated forecast model (x min. forecast) Model ∑−= = t Tcti iP Tc A tQ )()( ∑−= = t Tcti trueobs iP Tc A tQ )()( TcxforiPiP Tc A tQ t xti f xt Tcti truex <      += ∑∑ −= −− −= ,)()()( 1 Time Area 100% Tc
  • 13. Error quantification Forecast error SSerr ( ) TcxforiPiP Tc A iPiPiP Tc A tQtQte t xti ftrue t xti f xt Tcti true t Tcti truexobs <−=       −−=−= ∑ ∑∑∑ −= −= −− −=−= )()( )()()()()()( 1 ( )∑ ∑∑ = −== −      = n j t xti ftrue n i iPiP Tc A ie 1 2 2 1 2 ))()(()( Catchment specific Rain estimation error
  • 14. SSerr(disp)/SSerr(bias) independent of catchment: Direction of time displacement without importance: No importance if bias is negative or positive: Convenient properties ∑∑ ∞ + ∞ − −=− n cnn n cnn aaaa ∑∑ ∞∞ −=− nn PPPP 10.1*90.0* ( ) ( )∑ ∑ ∑ ∑ = −= = −=       ⋅−            −−      = n j t xti ftrue n j t xti truetrue err err iPciP Tc A aiPiP Tc A biasSS dispSS 1 22 1 22 )()( )()( )( )(
  • 15. Results Tc = 40 minutes
  • 17. Conclusion Rain data requirements are different for updated models. Independent of Tc: Frequent updating/short term forecasts: Correct timing essential -> (1) Radar better than gauges. (2) Many bad gauges better than few good gauges. Infrequent updating/long forecasts: Accuracy the more important.