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The other side: What Editors and Reviewers want?
Professor Vikesh Agrawal
MS, MCh
Professor, Pediatric Surgery
Department of Surgery
Editorial Secretary, Progress in Pediatric Urology
Editorial Consultant, JIAPS
President, Society of Pediatric Urology
What will we cover?
 The review and editorial process
 Choosing a journal!
 Choosing a topic!
 Practical tips before you submit!
 What makes a good manuscript?
 Revising a paper!
 Resubmission!
What we don’t cover?
 Research methodology
 Structure of manuscript
 Publication ethics
Submit a
paper
Basic requirements met?
REJECT
Assign
reviewers
Collect reviewers’
recommendations
Make a
decision
Revise the
paper
[Reject]
[Revision required]
[Accept]
[Yes]
[No]
Review and give
recommendation
START
ACCEPT
Author Editor Reviewer
Submission is not a “black hole”, you do get chances!
Michael Derntl. Basics of Research Paper Writing and Publishing.
http://www.pri.univie.ac.at/~derntl/papers/meth-se.pdf
Submit a paper
Current scenario of journals- Vs
1
100
10000
60s 70s 80s New Millennium
Year
Nooftitleslaunchedandtill2020
 Who is the audience?
 Is it peer-reviewed?
 Indexed, essentially a pubmed-indexed
 Impact Factor
[the average annual number of citations per article published]
 What is the rejection rate?
 Average time to print?
 Recently had similar publication?
Which is the right journal?
What to publish?
What to publish:
• Is it new?
• Is it true?
• Is it interesting?
• Is it important?
What NOT to publish:
•Out of date
•Incorrect/unacceptable
•Not of scientific interest
•Duplications
How to find new areas of research?
Submit a
paper
Basic requirements met?
REJECT
Assign
reviewers
Collect reviewers’
recommendations
Make a
decision
Revise the
paper
[Reject]
[Revision required]
[Accept]
[Yes]
[No]
Review and give
recommendation
START
ACCEPT
Author Editor Reviewer
Try and pass the first test- Editorial review!
Michael Derntl. Basics of Research Paper Writing and Publishing.
http://www.pri.univie.ac.at/~derntl/papers/meth-se.pdf
Why?
 The peer-review system is grossly overloaded
and editors wish to use reviewers only for
those papers with a good probability of
acceptance.
 It is a disservice to ask reviewers to spend
time on work that has clear and evident
deficiencies.
Initial Editorial Review
Many journals use a system of initial editorial review. Editors
may reject a manuscript without sending it for review
What do editors want?
 Trueness- Data validation over experience
 Important- Debate over settlement
 Newness- Hypothesis over dogma and paradigm
Primary loyalty of editors is towards science
Courtesy: Prof Dhananjaya Sharma
What is Editor’s choice?
 Relevant Title (Not misleading)
 Clinical relevance
 Cause-effect relationship
 A well structured manuscript
 Language is usually NOT a hindrance
Abstract: The key criteria for screening by editor
 Should stand alone!
 Consider it “A Teaser” of your article
 Should tell the prospective reader what you did and highlight the
key findings.
 You must be accurate and specific!
 A clear abstract will strongly influence whether or not your work
is further considered.
Submit a
paper
Basic requirements met?
REJECT
Assign
reviewers
Collect reviewers’
recommendations
Make a
decision
Revise the
paper
[Reject]
[Revision required]
[Accept]
[Yes]
[No]
Review and give
recommendation
START
ACCEPT
Author Editor Reviewer
Try and pass the second test- Reviewers’ acceptance!
Michael Derntl. Basics of Research Paper Writing and Publishing.
http://www.pri.univie.ac.at/~derntl/papers/meth-se.pdf
What is an ideal manuscript?
References
 More mistakes are found in the references than any other part of
the manuscript.
 It is one of the most annoying problems, and causes great
headaches among editors…
 Cite the main scientific publications on which your work is based
 Do not inflate the manuscript with too many references – it doesn’t make
it a better manuscript!
 Avoid excessive self-citations
 Avoid excessive citations of publications from the same region
A Word about Your Words
NOT creative writing class.
Journal space is precious.
Be concise.
“If clarity can be achieved in n words, never use n+1”
Internal review: A Mock review!
Internal
Review
Submit a
paper
Basic requirements met?
REJECT
Assign
reviewers
Collect reviewers’
recommendations
Make a
decision
Revise the
paper
[Reject]
[Revision required]
[Accept]
[Yes]
[No]
Review and give
recommendation
START
ACCEPT
Author Editor Reviewer
Try and pass the third test- Reviewers’ recommendation of revision!
Michael Derntl. Basics of Research Paper Writing and Publishing.
http://www.pri.univie.ac.at/~derntl/papers/meth-se.pdf
Poor science!
Can NOT be helped
Poor language…..
Why are the articles rejected?
Courtesy: Prof Dhananjaya Sharma
Why are the articles rejected by reviewers?
“The following problems appear too frequently”
1. Data Analysis- Keep an Excel sheet
2. Introduction- Explain hypothesis
3. Explain methodology
4. Write results- Positive and negative
5. Discuss the hypothesis and prove
6. Title your paper
7. Write abstract
8. Work on references
9. Work on Figures and Tables
10. Intended language check
11. Read paper again > 2 days
12. Internal review
13. Revision
14. Intended proof reading
15. Submission
Submit a
paper
Basic requirements met?
REJECT
Assign
reviewers
Collect reviewers’
recommendations
Make a
decision
Revise the
paper
[Reject]
[Revision required]
[Accept]
[Yes]
[No]
Review and give
recommendation
START
ACCEPT
Author Editor Reviewer
Submission is not a “black hole”, Avail the second chance!
Michael Derntl. Basics of Research Paper Writing and Publishing.
http://www.pri.univie.ac.at/~derntl/papers/meth-se.pdf
Revising a paper
Re-Vision of manuscript!
 Learn from their comments.
 Respond promptly- As it’s fresh in the mind of reviewers
 Nearly every manuscript requires revision.
 Editors and reviewers mean to help you improve your article- Do not
take offense.
 Minor revision does NOT guarantee acceptance
 Revise the whole manuscript- not just the parts the reviewers point out
 Carefully study the comments and prepare a detailed letter of
response.
 Provide a scientific response to the comment you accept; or a
convincing, solid and polite rebuttal to the point you think the
reviewer is wrong.
Reviewing is a Painstaking task- Respect it!
Publishing speed- Be patient!
Many journals have now introduced a “Fast Rejection“ process by the journal Editor
Take home message
Choose indexed/ reputed journals
Choose a topic carefully: Lot of hardwork will follow
Prepare a manuscript well- Stick to science
Use internal review- Get involved in a team
Improve upon your language- Intended proof reading
Revision improvize your paper- Be receptive
Rejection is not a failure- May find a better journal
Your paper is worthless if no one reads, uses, or cites it
A research study is meaningful only if…
 it is clearly described, so
 someone else can use it in his/her studies
 it arouses other scientists’ interest and
 allows others to reproduce the results.
By submitting a manuscript you are basically trying to sell your
work to your community…
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What editor and reviewers wants?

  • 1. The other side: What Editors and Reviewers want? Professor Vikesh Agrawal MS, MCh Professor, Pediatric Surgery Department of Surgery Editorial Secretary, Progress in Pediatric Urology Editorial Consultant, JIAPS President, Society of Pediatric Urology
  • 2. What will we cover?  The review and editorial process  Choosing a journal!  Choosing a topic!  Practical tips before you submit!  What makes a good manuscript?  Revising a paper!  Resubmission! What we don’t cover?  Research methodology  Structure of manuscript  Publication ethics
  • 3. Submit a paper Basic requirements met? REJECT Assign reviewers Collect reviewers’ recommendations Make a decision Revise the paper [Reject] [Revision required] [Accept] [Yes] [No] Review and give recommendation START ACCEPT Author Editor Reviewer Submission is not a “black hole”, you do get chances! Michael Derntl. Basics of Research Paper Writing and Publishing. http://www.pri.univie.ac.at/~derntl/papers/meth-se.pdf
  • 5. Current scenario of journals- Vs 1 100 10000 60s 70s 80s New Millennium Year Nooftitleslaunchedandtill2020
  • 6.  Who is the audience?  Is it peer-reviewed?  Indexed, essentially a pubmed-indexed  Impact Factor [the average annual number of citations per article published]  What is the rejection rate?  Average time to print?  Recently had similar publication? Which is the right journal?
  • 7. What to publish? What to publish: • Is it new? • Is it true? • Is it interesting? • Is it important? What NOT to publish: •Out of date •Incorrect/unacceptable •Not of scientific interest •Duplications
  • 8. How to find new areas of research?
  • 9. Submit a paper Basic requirements met? REJECT Assign reviewers Collect reviewers’ recommendations Make a decision Revise the paper [Reject] [Revision required] [Accept] [Yes] [No] Review and give recommendation START ACCEPT Author Editor Reviewer Try and pass the first test- Editorial review! Michael Derntl. Basics of Research Paper Writing and Publishing. http://www.pri.univie.ac.at/~derntl/papers/meth-se.pdf
  • 10. Why?  The peer-review system is grossly overloaded and editors wish to use reviewers only for those papers with a good probability of acceptance.  It is a disservice to ask reviewers to spend time on work that has clear and evident deficiencies. Initial Editorial Review Many journals use a system of initial editorial review. Editors may reject a manuscript without sending it for review
  • 11. What do editors want?  Trueness- Data validation over experience  Important- Debate over settlement  Newness- Hypothesis over dogma and paradigm Primary loyalty of editors is towards science Courtesy: Prof Dhananjaya Sharma
  • 12. What is Editor’s choice?  Relevant Title (Not misleading)  Clinical relevance  Cause-effect relationship  A well structured manuscript  Language is usually NOT a hindrance
  • 13. Abstract: The key criteria for screening by editor  Should stand alone!  Consider it “A Teaser” of your article  Should tell the prospective reader what you did and highlight the key findings.  You must be accurate and specific!  A clear abstract will strongly influence whether or not your work is further considered.
  • 14. Submit a paper Basic requirements met? REJECT Assign reviewers Collect reviewers’ recommendations Make a decision Revise the paper [Reject] [Revision required] [Accept] [Yes] [No] Review and give recommendation START ACCEPT Author Editor Reviewer Try and pass the second test- Reviewers’ acceptance! Michael Derntl. Basics of Research Paper Writing and Publishing. http://www.pri.univie.ac.at/~derntl/papers/meth-se.pdf
  • 15. What is an ideal manuscript?
  • 16. References  More mistakes are found in the references than any other part of the manuscript.  It is one of the most annoying problems, and causes great headaches among editors…  Cite the main scientific publications on which your work is based  Do not inflate the manuscript with too many references – it doesn’t make it a better manuscript!  Avoid excessive self-citations  Avoid excessive citations of publications from the same region
  • 17. A Word about Your Words NOT creative writing class. Journal space is precious. Be concise. “If clarity can be achieved in n words, never use n+1”
  • 18. Internal review: A Mock review! Internal Review
  • 19. Submit a paper Basic requirements met? REJECT Assign reviewers Collect reviewers’ recommendations Make a decision Revise the paper [Reject] [Revision required] [Accept] [Yes] [No] Review and give recommendation START ACCEPT Author Editor Reviewer Try and pass the third test- Reviewers’ recommendation of revision! Michael Derntl. Basics of Research Paper Writing and Publishing. http://www.pri.univie.ac.at/~derntl/papers/meth-se.pdf
  • 20. Poor science! Can NOT be helped Poor language….. Why are the articles rejected? Courtesy: Prof Dhananjaya Sharma
  • 21. Why are the articles rejected by reviewers? “The following problems appear too frequently”
  • 22. 1. Data Analysis- Keep an Excel sheet 2. Introduction- Explain hypothesis 3. Explain methodology 4. Write results- Positive and negative 5. Discuss the hypothesis and prove
  • 23. 6. Title your paper 7. Write abstract 8. Work on references 9. Work on Figures and Tables 10. Intended language check
  • 24. 11. Read paper again > 2 days 12. Internal review 13. Revision 14. Intended proof reading 15. Submission
  • 25. Submit a paper Basic requirements met? REJECT Assign reviewers Collect reviewers’ recommendations Make a decision Revise the paper [Reject] [Revision required] [Accept] [Yes] [No] Review and give recommendation START ACCEPT Author Editor Reviewer Submission is not a “black hole”, Avail the second chance! Michael Derntl. Basics of Research Paper Writing and Publishing. http://www.pri.univie.ac.at/~derntl/papers/meth-se.pdf
  • 28.
  • 29.  Learn from their comments.  Respond promptly- As it’s fresh in the mind of reviewers  Nearly every manuscript requires revision.  Editors and reviewers mean to help you improve your article- Do not take offense.  Minor revision does NOT guarantee acceptance  Revise the whole manuscript- not just the parts the reviewers point out  Carefully study the comments and prepare a detailed letter of response.  Provide a scientific response to the comment you accept; or a convincing, solid and polite rebuttal to the point you think the reviewer is wrong. Reviewing is a Painstaking task- Respect it!
  • 30. Publishing speed- Be patient! Many journals have now introduced a “Fast Rejection“ process by the journal Editor
  • 31. Take home message Choose indexed/ reputed journals Choose a topic carefully: Lot of hardwork will follow Prepare a manuscript well- Stick to science Use internal review- Get involved in a team Improve upon your language- Intended proof reading Revision improvize your paper- Be receptive Rejection is not a failure- May find a better journal
  • 32. Your paper is worthless if no one reads, uses, or cites it A research study is meaningful only if…  it is clearly described, so  someone else can use it in his/her studies  it arouses other scientists’ interest and  allows others to reproduce the results. By submitting a manuscript you are basically trying to sell your work to your community…