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Top 5 reasons why jesus is not the begotten son of god
1. Top 5 Reasons
why Jesus is not
the Begotten
son of God
By Alama Lonzetta
Research by Dr. Brown PHD
Religious Studies
2. Disclaimer
The following material is may be sensitive
to some readers. The intention of this
paper is to educate my brothers and
sisters and not to insult anyone or any
religion.
3. How do we Worship God
There are many ways to worship God, but
as logic tells us, God has chosen a
particular way for us to worship him. He
has chosen the best people of all time
and has given them Prophet Hood. God
has chosen these Prophets to declare
Gods message to humanity and the way
we have to submit to him.
4. The Message
All the Prophets of God have described
God as Uniquely One, external absolute,
and has no beginning or end.
They have described God as one with no
partners as well as the creator of
everything in the Universe.
5. The Message
These Unique attributes of God are the
exact reason why he’s the only one
worthy of worship
Therefore people in general have to
make the effort to try to understand and
study these Prophets so that we
understand how too worship God.
6. Exceeding the Limits
One does not draw closer to a person or
God by exceeding the reality. What do
we mean by that?
Jesus Christ called himself the son of Man;
others called himself the son God.
If he is identifying himself as the son of
man, you’re not going to draw closer to
the prophet by making him more than
what he is.
7. Top 5 Reasons why Jesus is not
the Begotten son of God
The following is the Top 5 reasons why
Jesus is not the begotten son of God.
9. Do you Believe Jesus was
Begotten and not made?
If
you ask most Christians if you believe in
this doctrine to begin with , do you
believe that Jesus was begotten and not
made?
Most will say yes its part of my religion, yes
Yes it’s part of your religion but do you
believe it?
10. Do you Believe Jesus was
Begotten and not made?
Most will then start to back pedal
If you look up the word begotten in Merriam
Webster’s dictionary, Its says begotten means
to procreate as the father, it implies the
cardinal element of sex.
Are you saying that you actually believe that
God had sex with Marry to have Jesus?
Is that what you’re saying when you mean
begotten and not made?
11. Do you Believe Jesus was
Begotten and not made?
99% of people will say of course not.
They would realize the blasphemy of that
claim
So then they would begin to change their
position
If this is what begotten means, and you
don’t believe that to mean the
procreation of the father like the definition
says it is, then why do you believe in it?
13. It is an evolved Doctrine
Derived in Council of Nicaea in 325, It was
later placed in the Nicene creed
Glanadious , the patriarch of
Constantinople when he heard the
Council of Nicaea’s decision of the
matter said “ These are the words of a
drunken man”.
14. It is an evolved Doctrine
This doesn’t mean that anyone who
believes in this is a drunken man; however
when one truly analyzes the statement for
somebody who sits down and thinks
about these words with an open heart
and open mind, the vast majority of
mankind would say they wouldn’t accept
this.
16. Psalms 2:7
Psalms 2:7 says “The Lord has said to me,
you are my son, today I have begotten
you
Are we talking about Jesus Christ? No.
We’re talking about David
The doctrine of Jesus being begotten not
made, is not just that Jesus Christ was
begotten not made, but he was the only
Begotten son of God
17. Psalms 2:7
How can you have Jesus Christ be the
only begotten son of God when we have
David many generations before being
told he was the only begotten son of
God?
Actually the bible has sons by the tons.
Many passages speak of the sons of
Gods, and the children of God.
18. Psalms 2:7
Sons of God were known as metaphorical
issues and not a literal one
In fact the all the Jews saw themselves as
the children of God. Sons and daughters
of God. That was the status they
conceived for themselves.
This was a metaphorical issue and not a
literal one.
19. But Hold On…..
Buthold on…
What about Jesus?
Jesus was the Son of God with a capital S.
20. Problem with this argument
Problem with this argument is there is nothing
to support it.
The manuscript the bible is translated from is
the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek manuscripts
and there was no capitalization of any these
manuscripts
Whenever you read the bible and see any
letter capitalized, even the beginning of
sentences, these letters were not capitalized
in the manuscripts which the bible was
translated
21. Problem with this argument
The bible is translated from a body of manuscripts.
Right now we have over 5400 manuscripts
None of them have capital letters
The capitalization is something people have put in
Sometimes as a device to emphasize to what they
wanted to emphasize, but that’s not being sincere
towards the scripture
A lot people get turned off by religion because
they see people play with religion. This is one of
those cases. As people are adding or removing
things to the bible.
23. The word Mono-genes
translated as only begotten
This word Mono-genes is found 9 times in the
bible
3 times in Luke: 7:12, 8:42 and 9:38
In all 3 of these passages it’s not talking
about Jesus Christ but other individuals, and
it’s not translated as the only begotten son.
This is the same word, but when found in John
it’s translated as the only begotten son
24. The word Mono-genes
translated as only begotten
But when this same word is used in Luke
it’s not translated as only begotten
This is another example of people playing
with scripture adding and taking away
what they want which in the end turns
people away from religion.
There is an inconsistency with translation.
You have to ask yourself why?
25. The word Mono-genes
translated as only begotten
The word is found 9 times in the bible
Again, 3 times mentioned in Luke which is
not translated to only begotten and is
referenced towards people other than
Jesus
5 times in John, 4 times in the gospel of
John, 1 time in John 1.. In those 5
instances, it refers to Jesus as the only
begotten.
26. The word Mono-genes
translated as only begotten
The 9th time is in Hebrews 11:17.
This is important because is talking about
Isaac. Isaac is Mono-genes
Now why is that important?
It’s important because Ismael was born
14 years before Isaac
How can Isaac be the only begotten son
if Ismael was 14 years old when Isaac was
born?
27. The word Mono-genes
translated as only begotten
Well Ismael wasn’t really considered his son,
because it was with Hagar and not Sarah.
This argument is invalid, because at the time
polygamy was allowed, and Hagar was taken
as a wife. David and Solomon had a lot of
wives
If you question that Ismael was not a real son
of Abraham then just look up Genesis 16:11,
16:15, 17:7, 17:23, and 17:25.
28. The word Mono-genes
translated as only begotten
Why do we read these verses?
Because in these passages God
recognized Ismael as Abraham’s son
If God is recognizing Ismael as Abraham’s
son 14 years before Isaac was born how
can Isaac be the only begotten son?
29. So what are we actually
saying..
What does it mean that Jesus is the son of
God?
Kats have kittens, dogs have puppies.
What does it mean for God to have a
son?
Does God have a baby God?
Is he a number two God?
30. So what are we actually
saying..
At this point every one’s own personal
opinion comes in to play. People explain it
in different ways
If we truly look at it honestly, no one really
understands the concept
According to the Trinity Doctrine, Jesus
and God are co-equal, co-eternal, and
of the same substance.
31. So what are we actually
saying..
That means they are co-eternal, but how can
a son be eternal, if he comes from the Father
This was an early argument from the Unitarian
priest Arias who basically said if you’re going
to call him the son, you can’t call him eternal.
Because the son comes from the father. How
can they be of the same substance? How
can they be co-equal? One prays to the
other. Jesus prayed to God.
32. So what are we actually
saying..
If Jesus had Godly powers himself he
wouldn’t call on or pray to God.
To pray to God means you’re in need of God.
The purpose of Prayer is to ask God to do
something for you.
If you have Godly powers you do anything
you want. So one sincerely reflects on this
they will realize that it does not make sense.
34. Don’t listen to me , Just ask
your Bible
The NIV, NRSV, The Good news Bible, The
Jerusalem Bible and many others have
recognized the arguments presented and
have removed this from their biblical texts.
The NIV and Revised Standard Version are the
most sold and authentic bibles in the history of
mankind
You will find the biblical scholars themselves
have removed this from their texts.
35. Don’t listen to me , Just ask
your Bible
But no I grew up on the King James Bible.
The problem with this argument is that King
James Version was written in 1611.
That’s 400 years old.
There were many biblical texts found after
that. The earliest biblical texts ever discovered
were the codex vaticanis and the codex
sanatacus, and they were discovered after
the King James Version was written.
36. Don’t listen to me , Just ask
your Bible
Sothe newer Bibles are agreed upon by a
coalition of different Christian groups and
they agree on the New Revised Standard
Version.
37. So Who was Jesus?
He was exactly what he said he was.
He was a Man.
He was Prophet barring revelation from God.
He was sent only to the lost sheep of the
house of Israel.
He was there to bring them back from their
deviation and to provide a revelation to keep
the people on the correct path.
38. Final
Comments…Leveltruth.com
I hope and pray that one can review the
following information and reflect on what it
has to say.
I hope that one can take the courage to
search for the truth, and to not follow any
belief blindly.
More info on the subject may be viewed at
Leveltruth.com
The following research was put together by
Dr. Brown PHD. Religious studies.