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Self and BrahmanThe Vedas to Upanishads PurushottamaBilimoria
The Vedas Earliest Conception of Self  ,[object Object],Principle texts (Hinduism) 4 Vedas (Sruti-’heard’ scriptures) c.2 BCE-300BCE Rig Veda Yajor Veda Sama Veda Atharva Veda
Composition of Vedas (pg 322) 4 Sections Samhitas Brahmanas Aranyakas Upanishads Vedanta Subject Matter Karma-Kanda Upasana-Kanda Jnana-Kanda
Other Authoritative Scriptures of Hinduism Smriti (the ‘recollected’ or ‘remembered’ scriptures)  c. 500 BCE-1700+ CE ,[object Object],[object Object]
Rig Veda Begins with puzzle  Nasadiya 129th hymn of the 10th Mandala of the Rigveda Wonders about beginning Perhaps earliest expression of skeptical inquiry and agnosticism
Nasadiya (pg 323)
Nasadiya
Self and Creation in the Vedas Rigvedic Seer (derived from Rig Veda)  Not committed to facticity of existence or any existent.  Wonders if/how no-existence could have arisen How/why world is how it is now Is ‘creation’ due to working of some mysterious hand?
Purusha – The Cosmic Person Cosmic pattern and ordering of society modeled after image of a person.  Purusha The Cosmic Person Hymn – “Purusha – Sukta” “Hymn of Man” Describes Purusha whose dismembered parts consitute the universe and its ‘furniture.’ Opposite of creatio ex nihilio “made from nothing.”
Purusha-Sukta, The Hymn of Man The Purusha (the Supreme Being), who has thousands of heads, thousands of eyes and thousands of feet enveloped the earth on all sides and stood beyond it in the ten directions of space. All this is the Purusha only; all that has been and all that will be. And He is the Lord of Immortality, which (also) grows by food. Such is His greatness, but the Purusha is greater than this. All beings make up only one-quarter of Him. Three-quarters of Him which are immortal are in Heaven. Three-quarters of the Purusha ascended high; one-quarter was here, again and again. And, diversified in form, it moved to the animate and inanimate world. From That was born Virat (the totality of beings). From Virat was the Purusha born. As soon as He was born, He spread over the earth both in front and behind. When the devas (gods) performed a sacrifice with the Purusha as the offering, the season of spring was the molten butter (used in all sacrifices), summer the sacred fuel and autumn the oblation.
When the devas performed the sacrifice, in which they bound the Purusha as the sacrificial animal, there were seven poles in the sacrificial enclosure and three times seven logs of sacred firewood. They placed Him, the Sacrifice, Purusha, the firstborn, on the sacrificial grass and besprinkled Him with the sacred water. Then the devas, the sadhyas and the rishis performed the sacrifice with Him as the offering. From that sacrifice, in which everything was offered as an oblation, was collected fresh butter. Creatures living in air (birds) and those living in forests and villages came in to being. From that sacrifice, in which everything was offered as oblation, came the Riks (Vedic Hymns) and the Samans (Hymns which are sung - the SaamaGaana). The Chandases (Vedic Metres) came from it; and from it theYajus (mantra for the ritual) was born.
Horses were born of it, and animals with two rows of teeth. Cows were born of it, and so were goats and sheep. When they cut up the Purusha, into how many parts did they divide Him? What did they call His mouth, His two arms, His two thighs and His two feet? The Brahmana was His mouth, the two arms became the Kshatriya, and His two thighs became the Vaisya. Of his two feet was the Sudra born.  The moon was born of His mind. The Sun was born of His two eyes. Indra Agni were born of His mouth. Vayu was born of His Praana (life-breath).
The antariksha (middle region) came from His navel. The sky appeared out of the head, the earth from the two feet and the quarters from the two ears. Thus they created the worlds. I know that great Purusha, lustrous as the Sun beyond darkness. The Wise One, having made all the forms appear, gave them names, and uttered these as they were. One who knows Him whom Dhata (Creator) first revealed, and so did Sakra (Indra) who fully knew the four quarters, becomes immortal here. There is no other way. The devas performed sacrifice with the Sacrifice. These were the first dharmas. They, the mighty ones, attained the height of Heaven where the ancient sadhyas and devas abide.
The Hymn of Man Human existence has a purpose and plan that approximates the cosmos itself and is related to its various aspects.  Human life can only have meaning when it is in harmony with the cosmos Need not necessarily lead to a single metaphysical view about the self Thus, no definitive conception of personal self in Vedas, apart from integration with cosmos.
Terms of Note Purusha – ‘person’ Jiva – created or individual self, akin to ‘soul’ Cetana-atman – everlasting intelligent principle Prana – breath/life Sutru-atman – ruler Atman vatah Hamsa – ‘all-dwelling inner power’ or swan
Atman Self gets referred to by all terms above, but Atman is strongest Purusha = connotates to signify the principle of existence within each living being – gods, humans and animals alike.  Atman = used to refer to this principle in human beings.  Jiva = identifies the individual self.
Jiva Each being has own distinguishing features that characterize it.  Substantive status is only provisional Does not imply that it has to be permanently existing entity or substance
Jiva On one level, self is nothing but the jiva (constituent body, mind, memory, qualities, etc.) On another level, self may transcend the limitations of jiva and be identified by all beings.  This is Self, better referred to by atman.  However, jiva and atman are not two things in an individual, instead, they are united in an inseparable relationship.
Upanishads: Brahaman and the Unity of Being Idea of unity – individual, social, and cosmic existence Relate atman to Brahman Brahman = absolute being. “sacred formula” or the “word” Connotation of “holy power” Eventually represented greatness of being Very abstract, defies human conception
Atman and Brahman In Upanishads, tend to identify atman (as the ‘breath’ or principle in human being) with Brahman(as the principle underlying the universe.) Ultimately there is no distinction or difference to be made between the real self of human existence and that which ultimately is.  In conversation between sage Yajnavalka and his wife Maitreyi, he tells her that the knowledge that he seeks of the self is dear not for the sake of the husband, wife, son, wealth or any of the other castes, rather it is dear for the sake of atman, for he says that atman is all. (pg 330)
Atman equals Brahman Chandogya – between the god Indra and the demon Virocana approach Prajapti, who says: “The self which is free from evil, free from old age, free from death, free from grief, free from hunger and thirst, whose desire is the real, whose thought is the real, he should be sought, him should one desire to understand. He who has found out and who understands that self, he obtains all worlds and desires.”
Atman equals Brahman However, god Indra took 101 years to understand that desire is a function of the senses and that this is not the way to self-realization, rather a deep insight into the self through knowledge and reflection is ultimately necessary. Rest of Chandogya Upanishad presents the central teachings on the self, its various states, (‘inner space’ and in sleep, its fate at death, and its quest for immortality.)
Atman equals Brahman The self has been elevated to another level or order of being by identifying the atman with Brahman.  Atman = all of all; although it is one, It is the non-dual, a-temporal reality that manifests itself in various forms. Atman = smaller than the smallest, and greater than the greatest.
Conception of Self Deeper conception is jiva in its embodied existence.  Atman is the cause of the body Jiva is a subtle ball of fire Conceived as root of ego Constructed self Jiva provides unifying network among consciousness, since it is just a manifestation in response to its environment.  Jiva can move out of body at point of death and continue its existence when found another body.
Reactions against the Brahmanic-Hindu View Materialists said atman had a concept of the substantial self.  Thus, Buddhism formed – denying the self.
How substantial is the atman? Atman is beyond personal self – is same for all people Substantial self is different in each individual Atman appears to enable human beings to look beyond limiting conception of a self identified with bodily or conscious processes.
Conclusion Thanks for listening =] Hope you’re not confused. >.<
The  Vedas - Brahmas and the Self

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The Vedas - Brahmas and the Self

  • 1. Self and BrahmanThe Vedas to Upanishads PurushottamaBilimoria
  • 2.
  • 3. Composition of Vedas (pg 322) 4 Sections Samhitas Brahmanas Aranyakas Upanishads Vedanta Subject Matter Karma-Kanda Upasana-Kanda Jnana-Kanda
  • 4.
  • 5. Rig Veda Begins with puzzle Nasadiya 129th hymn of the 10th Mandala of the Rigveda Wonders about beginning Perhaps earliest expression of skeptical inquiry and agnosticism
  • 8. Self and Creation in the Vedas Rigvedic Seer (derived from Rig Veda) Not committed to facticity of existence or any existent. Wonders if/how no-existence could have arisen How/why world is how it is now Is ‘creation’ due to working of some mysterious hand?
  • 9. Purusha – The Cosmic Person Cosmic pattern and ordering of society modeled after image of a person. Purusha The Cosmic Person Hymn – “Purusha – Sukta” “Hymn of Man” Describes Purusha whose dismembered parts consitute the universe and its ‘furniture.’ Opposite of creatio ex nihilio “made from nothing.”
  • 10. Purusha-Sukta, The Hymn of Man The Purusha (the Supreme Being), who has thousands of heads, thousands of eyes and thousands of feet enveloped the earth on all sides and stood beyond it in the ten directions of space. All this is the Purusha only; all that has been and all that will be. And He is the Lord of Immortality, which (also) grows by food. Such is His greatness, but the Purusha is greater than this. All beings make up only one-quarter of Him. Three-quarters of Him which are immortal are in Heaven. Three-quarters of the Purusha ascended high; one-quarter was here, again and again. And, diversified in form, it moved to the animate and inanimate world. From That was born Virat (the totality of beings). From Virat was the Purusha born. As soon as He was born, He spread over the earth both in front and behind. When the devas (gods) performed a sacrifice with the Purusha as the offering, the season of spring was the molten butter (used in all sacrifices), summer the sacred fuel and autumn the oblation.
  • 11. When the devas performed the sacrifice, in which they bound the Purusha as the sacrificial animal, there were seven poles in the sacrificial enclosure and three times seven logs of sacred firewood. They placed Him, the Sacrifice, Purusha, the firstborn, on the sacrificial grass and besprinkled Him with the sacred water. Then the devas, the sadhyas and the rishis performed the sacrifice with Him as the offering. From that sacrifice, in which everything was offered as an oblation, was collected fresh butter. Creatures living in air (birds) and those living in forests and villages came in to being. From that sacrifice, in which everything was offered as oblation, came the Riks (Vedic Hymns) and the Samans (Hymns which are sung - the SaamaGaana). The Chandases (Vedic Metres) came from it; and from it theYajus (mantra for the ritual) was born.
  • 12. Horses were born of it, and animals with two rows of teeth. Cows were born of it, and so were goats and sheep. When they cut up the Purusha, into how many parts did they divide Him? What did they call His mouth, His two arms, His two thighs and His two feet? The Brahmana was His mouth, the two arms became the Kshatriya, and His two thighs became the Vaisya. Of his two feet was the Sudra born. The moon was born of His mind. The Sun was born of His two eyes. Indra Agni were born of His mouth. Vayu was born of His Praana (life-breath).
  • 13. The antariksha (middle region) came from His navel. The sky appeared out of the head, the earth from the two feet and the quarters from the two ears. Thus they created the worlds. I know that great Purusha, lustrous as the Sun beyond darkness. The Wise One, having made all the forms appear, gave them names, and uttered these as they were. One who knows Him whom Dhata (Creator) first revealed, and so did Sakra (Indra) who fully knew the four quarters, becomes immortal here. There is no other way. The devas performed sacrifice with the Sacrifice. These were the first dharmas. They, the mighty ones, attained the height of Heaven where the ancient sadhyas and devas abide.
  • 14. The Hymn of Man Human existence has a purpose and plan that approximates the cosmos itself and is related to its various aspects. Human life can only have meaning when it is in harmony with the cosmos Need not necessarily lead to a single metaphysical view about the self Thus, no definitive conception of personal self in Vedas, apart from integration with cosmos.
  • 15. Terms of Note Purusha – ‘person’ Jiva – created or individual self, akin to ‘soul’ Cetana-atman – everlasting intelligent principle Prana – breath/life Sutru-atman – ruler Atman vatah Hamsa – ‘all-dwelling inner power’ or swan
  • 16. Atman Self gets referred to by all terms above, but Atman is strongest Purusha = connotates to signify the principle of existence within each living being – gods, humans and animals alike. Atman = used to refer to this principle in human beings. Jiva = identifies the individual self.
  • 17. Jiva Each being has own distinguishing features that characterize it. Substantive status is only provisional Does not imply that it has to be permanently existing entity or substance
  • 18. Jiva On one level, self is nothing but the jiva (constituent body, mind, memory, qualities, etc.) On another level, self may transcend the limitations of jiva and be identified by all beings. This is Self, better referred to by atman. However, jiva and atman are not two things in an individual, instead, they are united in an inseparable relationship.
  • 19. Upanishads: Brahaman and the Unity of Being Idea of unity – individual, social, and cosmic existence Relate atman to Brahman Brahman = absolute being. “sacred formula” or the “word” Connotation of “holy power” Eventually represented greatness of being Very abstract, defies human conception
  • 20. Atman and Brahman In Upanishads, tend to identify atman (as the ‘breath’ or principle in human being) with Brahman(as the principle underlying the universe.) Ultimately there is no distinction or difference to be made between the real self of human existence and that which ultimately is. In conversation between sage Yajnavalka and his wife Maitreyi, he tells her that the knowledge that he seeks of the self is dear not for the sake of the husband, wife, son, wealth or any of the other castes, rather it is dear for the sake of atman, for he says that atman is all. (pg 330)
  • 21. Atman equals Brahman Chandogya – between the god Indra and the demon Virocana approach Prajapti, who says: “The self which is free from evil, free from old age, free from death, free from grief, free from hunger and thirst, whose desire is the real, whose thought is the real, he should be sought, him should one desire to understand. He who has found out and who understands that self, he obtains all worlds and desires.”
  • 22. Atman equals Brahman However, god Indra took 101 years to understand that desire is a function of the senses and that this is not the way to self-realization, rather a deep insight into the self through knowledge and reflection is ultimately necessary. Rest of Chandogya Upanishad presents the central teachings on the self, its various states, (‘inner space’ and in sleep, its fate at death, and its quest for immortality.)
  • 23. Atman equals Brahman The self has been elevated to another level or order of being by identifying the atman with Brahman. Atman = all of all; although it is one, It is the non-dual, a-temporal reality that manifests itself in various forms. Atman = smaller than the smallest, and greater than the greatest.
  • 24. Conception of Self Deeper conception is jiva in its embodied existence. Atman is the cause of the body Jiva is a subtle ball of fire Conceived as root of ego Constructed self Jiva provides unifying network among consciousness, since it is just a manifestation in response to its environment. Jiva can move out of body at point of death and continue its existence when found another body.
  • 25. Reactions against the Brahmanic-Hindu View Materialists said atman had a concept of the substantial self. Thus, Buddhism formed – denying the self.
  • 26. How substantial is the atman? Atman is beyond personal self – is same for all people Substantial self is different in each individual Atman appears to enable human beings to look beyond limiting conception of a self identified with bodily or conscious processes.
  • 27. Conclusion Thanks for listening =] Hope you’re not confused. >.<