3. Timeline
• Now - June
– Academic performance
– Standardized testing
• SAT, ACT, TOEFL
– Research universities/create working
list of colleges
– Attend visits to ISM
• June – August
– Exploration
• Service work, Internships, travel, college
visits
– Finalize and prioritize a list (ISM limit of
10 worldwide)
– Common App essay
• September – December
– Verify requirements for final list of
schools
– Academic performance
– Standardized testing
• SAT, ACT, TOEFL
– Essays (school specific)
• December – January
– Submit applications
– Submit financial documents
• January – March
– Keep grades up
• April 1
– Decisions
• May 1
– Deposit to ONE institution
5. Types of Institutions
• Distinctions
– Public vs. Private
– Universities
• Graduate level research, includes pre-professional programs
– Liberal Arts Colleges
• Undergraduate level research, broad preparation in
academic disciplines
– Community Colleges
• 2 years, general education requirements, vocational training
6. Factors To Consider
• Cost & Financial Need
• Location
– Rural vs. Urban
– Jobs & Recruitment
– Climate
– Distance to Family/Friends
• Size (1,000 students to 60,000)
• Major
• Selectivity
– Reach
– Possible
– Safety
• Campus Culture
8. Cost
• Total cost up to US$60,000
– Public: ~$20,000 to ~$52,000
– Private: ~$35,000 to ~$60,000
• Billable Expenses
– Tuition, Room & Board (About $10,000+)
• Indirect Expenses
– Books, Travel, Spending Money
9. Financial Aid in the US
• Basic premise of Financial Aid: Students
and parents are the primary source of
funds and are expected to contribute to
the extent they are able
• Not based on what the parent’s would
LIKE to pay
10. Financial Aid in the US
US Citizens
• Eligible for
– Federal Aid
– Institutional Aid
– Private Aid
International Students
• Eligible for
– Limited Institutional
Aid
– Limited Private Aid
12. Where Do You Want To Live?
• City Living vs. The College Town
• Jobs
– Internships
– Recruitment
• Environment
• Staying close to family & friends
– Where will you spend holidays (Thanksgiving, etc.)?
13. College Visits
• Visit a variety of colleges in a variety of locations
to help refine your preferences
• Schedule interviews, if offered
• Go when classes are in session, if possible
– Spring Break, October Break
• Organized Tours
– Trevor Sturgeon College Tours
• www.tscollegetours.com
– College Visits
• www.college-visits.com
15. The BIG Schools
• More majors and classes
• Larger size classes
• Research
• Diversity
• International name recognition
• Large scale events, sports
NYU 22,000 students 26 apps
UC Berkeley 25,000 students 29 apps
U of Michigan 27,000 students 11 apps
16. The Small Schools
• Intimate community
• Smaller classes
• Easier to build relationships with professors
• Focus on teaching & learning
• Recommendations for graduate school
• Opportunities
Claremont McKenna 1,250 students 10 apps
Wesleyan 2,850 students 6 apps
Barnard 2,400 students 5 apps
17. Did You Benefit From The Teaching At
Your College?
80.00
70.00
60.00
50.00
40.00
30.00
20.00
10.00
0.00
72
45
25
29
Liberal Arts
Private
Top 50 Public
Public Flagships
Regional Public
33
Liberal Arts
Private
Top 50 Public
Regional Public
Public Flagships
18. Rankings
• US vs. Other Countries
– US = for profit media as opposed to government
• Tell you, in general terms, about the academic credentials
of the students they attract
• Be informed
• Only one criteria in researching colleges
• Go well beyond rankings using other data
– Career Placement Office
• Companies that recruit
• Services provided
– Retention Rates
– Graduation Rates
– Employment rate after graduation
20. Apply To A Selectivity Range
• Based on 8 applications
– 2 Safety: 95% chance
– 4 Possible: 35% to 75% chance
– 2 Reach: less than 35% chance
• Consult with counselor
22. Types Of Admission
Early Decision (binding)
ED I: Nov 1, Nov 15
ED II: Usually January
You can do both!!
Early Action (not binding)
“Single Choice”
Harvard, Yale, Princeton,
Stanford
“Restrictive”
Boston College, Georgetown
Regular Decision
Strict deadlines, usually
around January 1
Rolling Admission
Apply any time, quick replies
Apply early, if possible
24. Factors In the Admission Decision
Factor
Considerable
importance
Moderate
importance
Limited
importance No importance
Grades in college prep courses 84.3% 11.9% 2.3% 1.5%
Strength of curriculum 67.7 20.4 5.8 6.2
Admission test scores (ACT, SAT) 59.2 29.6 6.9 4.2
Grades in all courses 51.9 39.2 6.9 1.9
Essay or writing sample 24.9 37.5 17.2 20.3
Student’s demonstrated interest 20.5 29.7 24.7 25.1
Counselor evaluation 19.2 39.8 27.2 13.8
Class rank 18.8 31.0 31.4 18.8
Teacher recommendation 16.5 41.9 26.5 15.0
Subject test scores (AP, IB) 6.9 31.2 31.5 30.4
Portfolio 6.6 12.8 30.2 50.4
Interview 6.2 25.4 25.8 42.7
SAT Subject Test scores 5.4 9.7 22.6 62.3
Extracurricular activities 5.0 43.1 38.1 13.8
State graduation exam scores 4.2 14.9 23.8 57.1
Work 2.3 17.0 43.2 37.5
25. Data Isn’t Enough
• Data means…
– Transcripts
– Grades
– Test Scores
• Students need to
demonstrate VOICE
– Teacher
Recommendations
– Counselor Evaluations
– Essays
“We don’t want professional test
takers. How are you and your
perspective different?”
-University of Pennsylvania
26. What Colleges Want To Know…
• Can the student do the work here?
• What evidence do we have?
• How does he/she compare?
• How will the student contribute to our
campus?
• What will the student take away?
27. From Admissions Officers
“We are looking for people whose egos won’t
get in the way of learning, students whose
investment in ideas and words tells us - in the
context of their records - that they are aware of
a world beyond their own homes, schools,
grades and scores.”
28. From Admissions Officers
“Students we accept haven't just gone through
the motions—they've put heart and soul into
the areas that interest them.”
29. Essays & Activities
• Are you consistently interesting?
• Are you passionate?
• Do you make an impact?
30. Teacher Recommendations
• Attest to you as a person in the context of the classroom
• Some powerful characteristics colleges seek
– Intellectual power
– Curiosity
– Love of learning
– Initiative to learn beyond the classroom
– Insightful in discussion
– Creative
– Willingness to take risks
– Independently motivated
– Collaborative
– Learns from mistakes
• Ask a teacher who knows you well and can communicate your
strengths
• Teachers need stories to tell
31. Counselor Evaluation
• Put you in the context of our school
• Tell stories that show what kind of person you are
• Convey your interests, how you’ve pursued those
interests and what impact you’ve made in those
endeavors
• Help us advocate for you
– Allow us to get to know you; spend time in the Counseling
Center
– Give us insight into who you are and what you stand for,
dirt and all
– Senior profile, junior parent survey, and peer
recommendations
33. Where Should I Be In The Process
Today?
• Determine your own criteria for a “good college”
– student/faculty ratio, internship opportunities, location,
educational philosophy, etc.
• Family conversations
– Student priorities
– Parent priorities
• Create a college list
– Now: 20-30 colleges
– August: 5-10* colleges
• Be open-minded
• Create an organizational chart, including deadlines and
requirements
*ISM strictly limits students to 10 applications worldwide (UC’s and UCAS count as one)
34. What To Do Now
• Self-reflection; Determine priorities
• Research
• Junior college meeting #1
– September - January
• Junior college meeting #2 (includes parents)
– January - April
• Register for:
– SAT, ACT
– TOEFL, if appropriate
• Junior Parent Survey (in Naviance) due: Jan 5
• Senior profile due: First Day of Senior Year
35. Upcoming Events
**College Visits to ISM
**Mock US Admissions
For Grade 11 students and
parents
Tuesday, February 10
Monday, February 16
Tuesday February 24
5:00 – 6:30, Little Theatre
**College Essay Writing
Workshop, Part 1
For Grade 11 students only
3 dates in April
3:00 – 4:30, Lofthouse
Editor's Notes
Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. We know there has been a lot of information for you to take in and process.
There is a broad spectrum of knowledge about the US in the room so we are aiming towards the middle of that spectrum with what we share. Because there is a lot of information to share, we’ll address questions at the end. Keep in mind that parents and students will have one on one meetings later this semester with their counselor as well.
Critical thinking & analysis
Team work
Discussion & debate
Individuality
Work ethic
Creativity
Testing timeline discussed in testing session
Timeline is also available on the new ISM College Counseling Site
There are over 3,000 institutions of higher education in the US to choose from.
The seven original Liberal Arts date back the medieval times as subjects that were essential for a free person to master:
Grammar, Logic, Rhetoric, Arithmetic, Geometry, Music, Astronomy
In modern times, these also include:
Visual Arts, Great Books, Languages, Literature, Philosophy, Political Science, Psychology, etc.
Let’s look at some factors to consider when searching for US universitiesMany of the discussions students, families, and counselors should begin having now focus on criteria for choosing universities. We’ll talk a bit more later about visiting universities which is an important factor. But for now, here we’ve included some initial criteria that will help you filter your search.
Size: Keep in mind size can vary given the number of students but also the “feel” of the campus. Some universities with large student populations might have a smaller feel because the university is divided into smaller residential colleges. Some small colleges might also be part of a consortium of other colleges so while a school might have a small class size and population, it has increased access to more classes and students on other campus’. Stanford for example has under 7,00 students. But when you walk on their campus, it feels HUGE with students biking all over campus. The University of Virginia however has over 15,000 students but the campus itself feels a bit more cozy and there is a limit on how tall buildings can be.
Selectivity: We’ll talk a bit more in depth about selectivity and what that means. But we recommend students apply to a variety of universities with a range of chances of admission. On average, students should apply to 2 schools they are confident they will be accepted to (Safeties), 4 schools they have a possible chance of acceptance, and 2 schools that are a “reach” meaning they have a very small chance of acceptance to.
Campus Culture: Each school will vary in terms of their culture or climate. Does the school have a strong focus on leadership? Is it very competitive (student to student)? Supportive? Politically active? How will this culture impact your experience? After all, you will be there for 4 years….maybe longer!
PROMOTE CURT
We won’t go into too much detail here as there are two other sessions today focusing on financing education in the US for both US citizens and non citizens.
Of all the countries a student considers for university, the US tends to be more expensive. With that said, cost can vary from school to school and depending on a family’s circumstances and can make cost more competitive with universities throughout the world.
Public vs. Private can determine the cost. However, don’t rule a school out solely on this basis. Some private schools might have strong aid packages and public school costs are increasing given the current economic climate.
Refer to each university website. Two years ago, the Federal Government mandated that each university publish a Net Price Calculator. This will allow you to estimate the actual cost of attendance.
As with attendance to any university, there is more than tuition. How much is housing & food and what other expenses will you need to provide for?
Whether financial aid is needed or not, all International Students will be expected to provide information about the ability to pay for university. The Federal Government requires this before issuing a student visa. Begin researching now what documentation universities will need (each school might require different forms). Some will want this information when a student applies and others will want it only after a student has been accepted and plans to attend. It will take time to gather these documents (bank statements, proof of employment, etc.).
3 slides on financial aid needed?
For more information on Financial Aid to US universities, please attend the break out sessions today.
Financial Aid is money supplied by some source outside the family to help pay of the cost of the student’s education. The basic premise is that the students and parents are the primary source of funds for education and are expected to contribute to the extent they are able. This can mean sacrifices on the part of the family.
Financial aid can come in a variety of forms. We’ll talk about that a bit more shortly.
US Citizens and International students are looked at differently in terms of financial aid because US citizens can receive federal support. Let’s look at US families first.
Aid for US students can come in the form of Federal Aid (ONLY for US Students), Institutional Aid, and/or Private Aid. US families are required to complete the FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid) beginning January 1, 2014. Some schools might also require the CSS/Financial Aid Profile (College Scholarship Service). Anyone interested in financial aid will need to provide financial information to universities. Aid can be need-based or merit based.
In general, there is less aid for International Students and what aid is available will for the most part be merit-based. Aid can come in the form of Institutional Aid or Private Aid. Families if need be, can seek out private loans.
Our final point – College Visits
Visits allow you to really know a university
Spring break is a great time to visit, if possible, because school is in session
Tours – TS College Tours – good feedback from students; limited numbers of tours currently offered
College Visits – an older company – many different tour plans
may want to use both of these as starting points to develop your own university tour!
UPDATE
Top 50 Public (ex: Berkeley, UCLA, UVA, etc.)
Public Flagship (ex: Uni of Madison Wisconsin)
Regional Public (ex: James Madison, SUNY’s)
Average apps per ISM student: just over 6
Don’t have to apply to reach schools
Better to focus on schools in your strike zone
Mention that Naviance session will go into this…
The US has a variety of application types and deadlines and each mean something different. You don’t need to commit to any of these now. You’ll do that next school year, but be aware what each means for a student’s chance of admission.
Alright – so let’s take a look at some factors in the admissions process. This information is updated annually by our national organization – NACAC (say all words). This organization sets the standards by which we all abide. NACAC surveys universities throughout the US each year – this data is taken from the most recent, 2011 (2012 report). 2013 report has been delayed as of November 2013.
It becomes pretty obvious that it is your data or your numbers that get your foot in the door.
(go over factor and percentages of univ…)
Data is the baseline for all admissions decision. Should be used when creating your list of universities – data determines which of your schools are reaches, targets, safeties.
Once you get the first door opened – then other doors open as they read your essays and recommendations
(notice that student essay is more important than counselor and teacher evaluations)
Don’t underestimate the essay which gives the student VOICE.
Some univ read essay first to get a feel for applicant’s personality.
If a student is just shy of being a clear admit but has a compelling voice, that voice – or essay – could tip the scales into a favorable admissions decision.
Bottomline – what do the universities really want to know
(read slide)
Compare – other applicants; sometimes his/her HS; with other students currently on campus
Contribute – add to campus and campus life
Student take away – how can the university benefit the student; is the univ a good fit for the student; do they offer what the student needs
Bring color and life to application – 3 dimensional
Do you do things that would make a university interested in you or excited about you?
Impact – how will you leave IS? What have you changed, improved, initiated? What mark will you leave?
Key is that we MUST get to know you
We work hard at gathering that information – need you to work with us
Organization when applying to US colleges is incredibly important!!!
Here are some events this semester to support you in this process:
Mock – your chance to be an admissions officer and select students for your university
Let’s you experience the complexity in making decisions and the job that the admissions people have
Gives you greater insight into the process
For students – essay writing workshops
Part I – selecting your topic and getting started
Part II – in the fall – refining/editing your essay