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Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Jailbreaking the Forges : project export/import Introduction Foreword About efforts COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s Staurday 24/09/2011 ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Who’s tweeting now efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis • Institut TELECOM / TELECOM SudParis / Computer Science dept. Introduction Foreword • Research on collaborative development About COCLICO platforms, tools, process, in FLOSS Issues communities Still too much lock-in • Previously worked in service companies (Cap Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Gemini, IDEALX) Forge proliferation • At TELECOM SudParis since 2002 Efforts COCLICO’s • R&D on FLOSS, forges, bugtracking, Linked ForgePlucker Interoperability Data, etc. (CALIBRE, HELIOS, COCLICO) Techniques Forge ontology • Contributor to Debian, FusionForge, Implementations ForgePlucker, Eclipse Lyo, OSLC Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import About COCLICO efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? http://www.coclico-project.org/ Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts The Coclico project aims to reinforce software forges COCLICO’s ForgePlucker communities by structuring an open source ecosystem Interoperability for which a critical mass exists in France. Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Quick poll efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Which forges are you using ? Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Sharing some ideas with you efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Forges are great Foreword About COCLICO There are still some issues : Issues • Features Still too much lock-in Who cares ? • Project lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Forge How to move a project from one forge to the other ? proliferation • Silos Efforts COCLICO’s • APIs : scraping, SOAP, XMLRPC :-/ ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Project lock-in efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About • There’s still too much lock-in COCLICO Issues • Even if not lock-in, too much entropy generated Still too much lock-in • Who’s caring ? Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted • Since 2003 (CoopX initiative) Forge proliferation ... Efforts • to 2010 (COCLICO, ongoing work) COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Who cares if migration is efforts Olivier impossible ? Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Excerpt from the efforts Olivier DocumentFoundation / LibreOffice Berger, Telecom FAQ SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO http ://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/ (sept. 30 2010) Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? Q : Why are you building a new web infrastructure ? Freedom vs Hosted A : Since Oracle’s takeover of Sun Microsystems, the Forge proliferation Community has been under “notice to quit” from our Efforts previous Collabnet infrastructure. With today’s COCLICO’s ForgePlucker announcement of a Foundation, we now have an Interoperability entity which can own our emerging new infrastructure. Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import ESR dixit : efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword Eric (ESR) Raymond About COCLICO “Three Systemic Problems with Open-Source Hosting Sites” 1 Issues Still too much lock-in 1 Hosting Sites Are Data Jails Who cares ? Freedom vs 2 Hosting Sites have Poor Scriptability Hosted Forge 3 Hosting Sites Have Inadequate Support for proliferation Efforts Immigration COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in ! 1. http ://esr.ibiblio.org/ ?p=1282
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Git ? efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword OK, with git, less centralization == less lock-in About COCLICO But : Issues Still too much • Anyone using GitHub ? lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs • Developing free software ? Hosted Forge proliferation • With non-free tools ? Efforts • How much do, you depend on it ? COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Jesse Vincent dixit efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Jesse (obra) Vincent, in : Issues “Web 2.0 is Sharecropping” Conference (5’) 2 Still too much lock-in Who cares ? “If you don’t own your tools, you’re going to be in a Freedom vs Hosted Forge whole mess of trouble.” proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in ! 2. http ://syncwith.us/talks
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Moglen dixit efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About Eben Moglen, in COCLICO “Freedom in the Cloud” Conference (1h) 3 Issues Still too much lock-in • What’s the difference between forge users and social Who cares ? Freedom vs network sites users ? Hosted Forge proliferation • Cloud “jail” platforms vs. forge servers close to users Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in ! 3. http ://www.isoc-ny.org/ ?p=1338
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Forge proliferation efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis • Services vs Software Introduction • Services Foreword About • list your own COCLICO Issues • Software Still too much lock-in • list your own Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted • Choosing a tool or service at project start Forge proliferation • Later changes ? Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker • Proliferation is great, but repeating errors of the past is not Interoperability Techniques • Preserve developers freedom to fork Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import COCLICO context efforts Our efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom • Not reinventing yet another forge SudParis Venerable forges with circa 2000 PHP codebase Introduction Foreword • Interoperability - import/export toolbox About COCLICO Issues • From legacy forges to modern Still too much lock-in Migration path : towards more REST APIs, more RDF Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted extensible representation formats, more Linked Data, Forge proliferation supporting new tools (CI, tests, Eclipse, etc.) Efforts • Raising awareness COCLICO’s ForgePlucker • Sharing experience in a community (PlanetForge, see Interoperability Techniques bellow) Forge ontology Implementations • More details : ongoing work, soon on PlanetForge wiki (or Join in ! ask us on planetforge discussion list)
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Forgeplucker efforts Olivier • ForgePlucker (initiated by ESR) is the reference Berger, Telecom http ://home.gna.org/forgeplucker/ SudParis • There was code, but still alot of work (and improvements Introduction Foreword to make) About COCLICO Issues • We improved forgeplucker to improve the forge ontology, Still too much lock-in fusionforge coverage Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted • Towards a standard forge project dump format (RDF, Forge proliferation ontologies, OpenDocument Package container. . . ) Efforts COCLICO’s • Based on same core standards as for dynamic ForgePlucker Interoperability interoperability (OSLC) Techniques Forge • We “forked” its code on gitorious (paradox) ontology Implementations • Scraping is not only option (direct admin export), but Join in ! reference Python codebase
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Interoperability techniques efforts Worked on in COCLICO Olivier Berger, Telecom • RDF / Linked Data (JSON or XML) SudParis • OAuth Introduction Foreword About • OSLC proposed standard COCLICO • Web technology : REST, RDF, AJAX, Issues Still too much • Open community, Open standard lock-in Who cares ? • OSLC-CM (Change Management) FLOSS implementations Freedom vs Hosted developped in Helios and COCLICO Forge proliferation • Mantis bugtracker Efforts • FusionForge trackers (soon Codendi too) COCLICO’s ForgePlucker • Many more domains than trackers Interoperability Techniques Forge • WebID, aka FOAF+SSL ontology Implementations • Building grounds for forge interop standard to be Join in ! elaborated at PlanetForge community
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Forge artifacts/tools ontology efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in ! https://forge.projet-coclico.org/plugins/mediawiki/
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Linked Open Data efforts (Public) Development artifacts part of Web 3.0 ? Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in ! Source : http ://linkeddata.org/
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import ForgePlucker efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Evolving the format to more extensibility and semantics, with Introduction Foreword RDF About COCLICO • OpenDocument Package (zip) container Issues Still too much lock-in • Metadata RDF (JSON) description (Forge ontology) of Who cares ? Freedom vs links between people, projects, forge tools, and rest of the Hosted Forge proliferation export data Efforts • Dumps of the tools inside the container if possible COCLICO’s ForgePlucker • In principle run from the user’s client system (scraping) Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import FusionForge efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword • Exporter About COCLICO • Based on ForgePlucker Issues Still too much • Run from the forge’s hosting system lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs • Importer Hosted Forge proliferation ‘projectimport’ plugin in Fusionforge trunk Efforts • Other goodies for dynamic interoperability COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Trac efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO http ://trac-hacks.org/wiki/PlanetForgeImportExportPlugin Issues • INRIA (S. Campion) Still too much lock-in Who cares ? • Export Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation • Import Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Redmine efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO https ://gi- Issues Still too much thub.com/scampion/forgeplucker/tree/import_redmine lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted • Bearstech (V. Caron) Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Codendi, Novaforge, . . . efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Not so much used by FLOSS projects Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Forge export/import efforts ForgePlucker Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much • We need more export / import features compatible to lock-in Who cares ? each-other Freedom vs Hosted Forge • Let’s talk on the forgeplucker mailing-list proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Interoperability of forges and other efforts Olivier dev tools Berger, PlanetForge Telecom SudParis PlanetForge community Introduction • News agregator (planet) Foreword About http://planet.planetforge.org/ COCLICO • Microblogging (!planetforge) Issues Still too much lock-in http://identi.ca/group/planetforge Who cares ? Freedom vs • Mailing-list Hosted Forge proliferation mailto:discussions@planetforge.org Efforts • Wiki COCLICO’s ForgePlucker http://wiki.planetforge.org/ Interoperability Techniques • Forge meetups (OWF, RMLL/LSM, . . . ) Forge ontology • Share ideas, experience, collaborate Implementations • Interoperability standardization Join in ! Join us !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Copyright & License efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO • This presentation is under CC-by-SA license Issues Still too much lock-in • Copyright (c) 2010-11 Olivier Berger Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted • Made with org-mode under emacs (org + beamer) Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Q&A efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword Thank you About COCLICO Questions ? Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? More Freedom vs Hosted @oberger : http://identi.ca/oberger/ Forge proliferation email : mailto:olivier.berger@it-sudparis.eu Efforts COCLICO’s blog : ForgePlucker http://www-public.it-sudparis.eu/~berger_o/weblog/ Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !

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  • 1. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Jailbreaking the Forges : project export/import Introduction Foreword About efforts COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s Staurday 24/09/2011 ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 2. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Who’s tweeting now efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis • Institut TELECOM / TELECOM SudParis / Computer Science dept. Introduction Foreword • Research on collaborative development About COCLICO platforms, tools, process, in FLOSS Issues communities Still too much lock-in • Previously worked in service companies (Cap Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Gemini, IDEALX) Forge proliferation • At TELECOM SudParis since 2002 Efforts COCLICO’s • R&D on FLOSS, forges, bugtracking, Linked ForgePlucker Interoperability Data, etc. (CALIBRE, HELIOS, COCLICO) Techniques Forge ontology • Contributor to Debian, FusionForge, Implementations ForgePlucker, Eclipse Lyo, OSLC Join in !
  • 3. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import About COCLICO efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? http://www.coclico-project.org/ Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts The Coclico project aims to reinforce software forges COCLICO’s ForgePlucker communities by structuring an open source ecosystem Interoperability for which a critical mass exists in France. Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 4. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Quick poll efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Which forges are you using ? Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 5. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Sharing some ideas with you efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Forges are great Foreword About COCLICO There are still some issues : Issues • Features Still too much lock-in Who cares ? • Project lock-in Freedom vs Hosted Forge How to move a project from one forge to the other ? proliferation • Silos Efforts COCLICO’s • APIs : scraping, SOAP, XMLRPC :-/ ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 6. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Project lock-in efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About • There’s still too much lock-in COCLICO Issues • Even if not lock-in, too much entropy generated Still too much lock-in • Who’s caring ? Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted • Since 2003 (CoopX initiative) Forge proliferation ... Efforts • to 2010 (COCLICO, ongoing work) COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 7. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Who cares if migration is efforts Olivier impossible ? Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 8. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Excerpt from the efforts Olivier DocumentFoundation / LibreOffice Berger, Telecom FAQ SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO http ://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/ (sept. 30 2010) Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? Q : Why are you building a new web infrastructure ? Freedom vs Hosted A : Since Oracle’s takeover of Sun Microsystems, the Forge proliferation Community has been under “notice to quit” from our Efforts previous Collabnet infrastructure. With today’s COCLICO’s ForgePlucker announcement of a Foundation, we now have an Interoperability entity which can own our emerging new infrastructure. Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 9. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import ESR dixit : efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword Eric (ESR) Raymond About COCLICO “Three Systemic Problems with Open-Source Hosting Sites” 1 Issues Still too much lock-in 1 Hosting Sites Are Data Jails Who cares ? Freedom vs 2 Hosting Sites have Poor Scriptability Hosted Forge 3 Hosting Sites Have Inadequate Support for proliferation Efforts Immigration COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in ! 1. http ://esr.ibiblio.org/ ?p=1282
  • 10. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Git ? efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword OK, with git, less centralization == less lock-in About COCLICO But : Issues Still too much • Anyone using GitHub ? lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs • Developing free software ? Hosted Forge proliferation • With non-free tools ? Efforts • How much do, you depend on it ? COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 11. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Jesse Vincent dixit efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Jesse (obra) Vincent, in : Issues “Web 2.0 is Sharecropping” Conference (5’) 2 Still too much lock-in Who cares ? “If you don’t own your tools, you’re going to be in a Freedom vs Hosted Forge whole mess of trouble.” proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in ! 2. http ://syncwith.us/talks
  • 12. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Moglen dixit efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About Eben Moglen, in COCLICO “Freedom in the Cloud” Conference (1h) 3 Issues Still too much lock-in • What’s the difference between forge users and social Who cares ? Freedom vs network sites users ? Hosted Forge proliferation • Cloud “jail” platforms vs. forge servers close to users Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in ! 3. http ://www.isoc-ny.org/ ?p=1338
  • 13. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Forge proliferation efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis • Services vs Software Introduction • Services Foreword About • list your own COCLICO Issues • Software Still too much lock-in • list your own Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted • Choosing a tool or service at project start Forge proliferation • Later changes ? Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker • Proliferation is great, but repeating errors of the past is not Interoperability Techniques • Preserve developers freedom to fork Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 14. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import COCLICO context efforts Our efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom • Not reinventing yet another forge SudParis Venerable forges with circa 2000 PHP codebase Introduction Foreword • Interoperability - import/export toolbox About COCLICO Issues • From legacy forges to modern Still too much lock-in Migration path : towards more REST APIs, more RDF Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted extensible representation formats, more Linked Data, Forge proliferation supporting new tools (CI, tests, Eclipse, etc.) Efforts • Raising awareness COCLICO’s ForgePlucker • Sharing experience in a community (PlanetForge, see Interoperability Techniques bellow) Forge ontology Implementations • More details : ongoing work, soon on PlanetForge wiki (or Join in ! ask us on planetforge discussion list)
  • 15. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Forgeplucker efforts Olivier • ForgePlucker (initiated by ESR) is the reference Berger, Telecom http ://home.gna.org/forgeplucker/ SudParis • There was code, but still alot of work (and improvements Introduction Foreword to make) About COCLICO Issues • We improved forgeplucker to improve the forge ontology, Still too much lock-in fusionforge coverage Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted • Towards a standard forge project dump format (RDF, Forge proliferation ontologies, OpenDocument Package container. . . ) Efforts COCLICO’s • Based on same core standards as for dynamic ForgePlucker Interoperability interoperability (OSLC) Techniques Forge • We “forked” its code on gitorious (paradox) ontology Implementations • Scraping is not only option (direct admin export), but Join in ! reference Python codebase
  • 16. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Interoperability techniques efforts Worked on in COCLICO Olivier Berger, Telecom • RDF / Linked Data (JSON or XML) SudParis • OAuth Introduction Foreword About • OSLC proposed standard COCLICO • Web technology : REST, RDF, AJAX, Issues Still too much • Open community, Open standard lock-in Who cares ? • OSLC-CM (Change Management) FLOSS implementations Freedom vs Hosted developped in Helios and COCLICO Forge proliferation • Mantis bugtracker Efforts • FusionForge trackers (soon Codendi too) COCLICO’s ForgePlucker • Many more domains than trackers Interoperability Techniques Forge • WebID, aka FOAF+SSL ontology Implementations • Building grounds for forge interop standard to be Join in ! elaborated at PlanetForge community
  • 17. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Forge artifacts/tools ontology efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in ! https://forge.projet-coclico.org/plugins/mediawiki/
  • 18. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Linked Open Data efforts (Public) Development artifacts part of Web 3.0 ? Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in ! Source : http ://linkeddata.org/
  • 19. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import ForgePlucker efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Evolving the format to more extensibility and semantics, with Introduction Foreword RDF About COCLICO • OpenDocument Package (zip) container Issues Still too much lock-in • Metadata RDF (JSON) description (Forge ontology) of Who cares ? Freedom vs links between people, projects, forge tools, and rest of the Hosted Forge proliferation export data Efforts • Dumps of the tools inside the container if possible COCLICO’s ForgePlucker • In principle run from the user’s client system (scraping) Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 20. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import FusionForge efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword • Exporter About COCLICO • Based on ForgePlucker Issues Still too much • Run from the forge’s hosting system lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs • Importer Hosted Forge proliferation ‘projectimport’ plugin in Fusionforge trunk Efforts • Other goodies for dynamic interoperability COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 21. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Trac efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO http ://trac-hacks.org/wiki/PlanetForgeImportExportPlugin Issues • INRIA (S. Campion) Still too much lock-in Who cares ? • Export Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation • Import Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 22. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Redmine efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO https ://gi- Issues Still too much thub.com/scampion/forgeplucker/tree/import_redmine lock-in Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted • Bearstech (V. Caron) Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 23. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Codendi, Novaforge, . . . efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much lock-in Not so much used by FLOSS projects Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 24. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Forge export/import efforts ForgePlucker Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO Issues Still too much • We need more export / import features compatible to lock-in Who cares ? each-other Freedom vs Hosted Forge • Let’s talk on the forgeplucker mailing-list proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 25. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Interoperability of forges and other efforts Olivier dev tools Berger, PlanetForge Telecom SudParis PlanetForge community Introduction • News agregator (planet) Foreword About http://planet.planetforge.org/ COCLICO • Microblogging (!planetforge) Issues Still too much lock-in http://identi.ca/group/planetforge Who cares ? Freedom vs • Mailing-list Hosted Forge proliferation mailto:discussions@planetforge.org Efforts • Wiki COCLICO’s ForgePlucker http://wiki.planetforge.org/ Interoperability Techniques • Forge meetups (OWF, RMLL/LSM, . . . ) Forge ontology • Share ideas, experience, collaborate Implementations • Interoperability standardization Join in ! Join us !
  • 26. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Copyright & License efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword About COCLICO • This presentation is under CC-by-SA license Issues Still too much lock-in • Copyright (c) 2010-11 Olivier Berger Who cares ? Freedom vs Hosted • Made with org-mode under emacs (org + beamer) Forge proliferation Efforts COCLICO’s ForgePlucker Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !
  • 27. Jailbreaking the Forges : project ex- port/import Q&A efforts Olivier Berger, Telecom SudParis Introduction Foreword Thank you About COCLICO Questions ? Issues Still too much lock-in Who cares ? More Freedom vs Hosted @oberger : http://identi.ca/oberger/ Forge proliferation email : mailto:olivier.berger@it-sudparis.eu Efforts COCLICO’s blog : ForgePlucker http://www-public.it-sudparis.eu/~berger_o/weblog/ Interoperability Techniques Forge ontology Implementations Join in !