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HyperKitty
  The next-gen. list archiver

Presented by
Aurélien Bompard
Fedora Engineering


           FUDCon Lawrence 2013 − CC-BY
Today's Topics
 Where we come from
   Mailman today
   Máirín's and Luke's vision

 Where we are
   Mailman 3
   HyperKitty

 Where we will be
   Planned features
   How you can help
The past
Mailman 2.1
Maintenance branch
  One release a year since 2006

A monolithic package :
  Mailing-list engine
  Web archiver (pipermail)
  Web admin interface
What's wrong
 Pipermail generates static HTML
   Not directly searchable
   No user-based customization
   No summary / stats page
   Read-only

 Admin interface is CGI-based and generates
 configuration files

 Different environments, technologies,
 skillsets
The vision
 Early 2010 : Máirín & Luke

 Complement the existing mailing-lists
   Thread statistics (participants, replies)
   List statistics (topics, people)
   Post rating
   User rating (“karma”)
   Thread categories
A new hope
 Early 2012 : Fedora Engineering

 Refined mockup

 Moar mockups !!1

 Spring/summer: implementation starts
   Toshio, Pingou, Syst3mW0rm, yours truly
The present
Mailman 3
Modern and modular design
  Mailman itself: mailing-list and REST API
  Postorius: the web admin UI
  HyperKitty: the web archiver
  Queues, runners, TDD, ...

Key improvements
  No more “happy Mailman day” !
  No storing of plain-text passwords

When? RSN. Fall 2012: season of the delays
HyperKitty
 An archiver plugin for Mailman3

 KittyStore: the storage engine
   SQL database (Storm ORM)
   Analysis and statistics

 HyperKitty: the web UI
   Django-based
   Interfaces with KittyStore
   Implements “ModernArchiving” on list.org
   Implement some of Mo's mockups
The future
Planned features
 Post from the web
   A few challenges there (spam, SPF, etc.)

 Many ideas in Mo's mockups
   Rankings, categories
   Improving signal-to-noise ratio

 Ideas from the Debian community
   Joey Hess (thread patterns)
   A. Delanoë and B. Conein (socio-meter)
How you can help
 HyperKitty needs you
   UI and design
   Django knowledge and optimization
   Testing, installing, fuzzing, debugging

 KittyStore needs you
   Statistical analysis
   Spam Troll detection

 Frustrated with mailing-lists ? Every idea
 counts.
Where you can help
 Test the development version:
   http://mm3test.fedoraproject.org

 Report bugs:
   http://fedorahosted.org/hyperkitty

 Check out the code:
   http://github.com/hyperkitty

 Read the docs and install it:
   http://hyperkitty.rtfd.org
Summary
Mailman 2.1 is growing old, Mailman 3 is
coming

HyperKitty will be its main archiver

Designed by the Fedora community for
everyone

Bridge the gap between mailing lists and
web forums
Questions?
Cool techs, cool designs, huge audience...
        Come and be a part of it !




  http://fedorahosted.org/hyperkitty
  abompard@fedoraproject.org
                                FUDCon Lawrence 2013 − CC-BY

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HyperKitty, or how to get the best from mailing lists and forums

  • 1. HyperKitty The next-gen. list archiver Presented by Aurélien Bompard Fedora Engineering FUDCon Lawrence 2013 − CC-BY
  • 2. Today's Topics Where we come from Mailman today Máirín's and Luke's vision Where we are Mailman 3 HyperKitty Where we will be Planned features How you can help
  • 4. Mailman 2.1 Maintenance branch One release a year since 2006 A monolithic package : Mailing-list engine Web archiver (pipermail) Web admin interface
  • 5. What's wrong Pipermail generates static HTML Not directly searchable No user-based customization No summary / stats page Read-only Admin interface is CGI-based and generates configuration files Different environments, technologies, skillsets
  • 6. The vision Early 2010 : Máirín & Luke Complement the existing mailing-lists Thread statistics (participants, replies) List statistics (topics, people) Post rating User rating (“karma”) Thread categories
  • 7. A new hope Early 2012 : Fedora Engineering Refined mockup Moar mockups !!1 Spring/summer: implementation starts Toshio, Pingou, Syst3mW0rm, yours truly
  • 9. Mailman 3 Modern and modular design Mailman itself: mailing-list and REST API Postorius: the web admin UI HyperKitty: the web archiver Queues, runners, TDD, ... Key improvements No more “happy Mailman day” ! No storing of plain-text passwords When? RSN. Fall 2012: season of the delays
  • 10. HyperKitty An archiver plugin for Mailman3 KittyStore: the storage engine SQL database (Storm ORM) Analysis and statistics HyperKitty: the web UI Django-based Interfaces with KittyStore Implements “ModernArchiving” on list.org Implement some of Mo's mockups
  • 12. Planned features Post from the web A few challenges there (spam, SPF, etc.) Many ideas in Mo's mockups Rankings, categories Improving signal-to-noise ratio Ideas from the Debian community Joey Hess (thread patterns) A. Delanoë and B. Conein (socio-meter)
  • 13. How you can help HyperKitty needs you UI and design Django knowledge and optimization Testing, installing, fuzzing, debugging KittyStore needs you Statistical analysis Spam Troll detection Frustrated with mailing-lists ? Every idea counts.
  • 14. Where you can help Test the development version: http://mm3test.fedoraproject.org Report bugs: http://fedorahosted.org/hyperkitty Check out the code: http://github.com/hyperkitty Read the docs and install it: http://hyperkitty.rtfd.org
  • 15. Summary Mailman 2.1 is growing old, Mailman 3 is coming HyperKitty will be its main archiver Designed by the Fedora community for everyone Bridge the gap between mailing lists and web forums
  • 16. Questions? Cool techs, cool designs, huge audience... Come and be a part of it ! http://fedorahosted.org/hyperkitty abompard@fedoraproject.org FUDCon Lawrence 2013 − CC-BY