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Series Verse
As iron sharpens iron,
so a friend sharpens a
friend.
Proverbs 27:17 (NLT)
Series Outline
1.Nathan and David: Confronting sin.
2.David, Absalom and Amnon: Failing
to confront sin.
3.Elijah and Elisha: The Big Ask.
4.Ananias and Jesus: Dangerous
Encounters.
Series Outline
5. Paul and Peter: Confronting a
brother publicly.
6.Paul Barnabas: Agreeing to go
separate ways.
7.Paul and Philemon: Asking a friend
to “pay it forward”.
David, Amnon
and Absalom
Failing to Confront
Sin
2 Samuel 13
First Point
A Lesson from Tamar:
A hindered hard
conversation doubles
grief.
2 Samuel 13
1 Now Absalom, David's son, had a
beautiful sister, whose name was
Tamar. And after a time Amnon,
David's son, loved her.
2 Samuel 13
2 And Amnon was so tormented that
he made himself ill because of his
sister Tamar, for she was a virgin,
and it seemed impossible to Amnon
to do anything to her.
2 Samuel 13
3 But Amnon had a friend, whose
name was Jonadab, the son of
Shimeah, David's brother. And
Jonadab was a very crafty man.
2 Samuel 13
4 And he said to him, “O son of the
king, why are you so haggard
morning after morning? Will you
not tell me?” Amnon said to him, “I
love Tamar, my brother Absalom's
sister.”
5 Jonadab said to him, “Lie down on
your bed and pretend to be ill. And
when your father comes to see you,
say to him, ‘Let my sister Tamar
come and give me bread to eat, and
prepare the food in my sight, that I
may see it and eat it from her
hand.’”
2 Samuel 13
6 So Amnon lay down and
pretended to be ill. And when the
king came to see him, Amnon said
to the king, “Please let my sister
Tamar come and make a couple of
cakes in my sight, that I may eat
from her hand.”
2 Samuel 13
7 Then David sent home to Tamar,
saying, “Go to your brother
Amnon's house and prepare food
for him.”
2 Samuel 13
8 So Tamar went to her brother
Amnon's house, where he was lying
down. And she took dough and
kneaded it and made cakes in his
sight and baked the cakes.
2 Samuel 13
9 And she took the pan and emptied
it out before him, but he refused to
eat. And Amnon said, “Send out
everyone from me.” So everyone
went out from him.
2 Samuel 13
10 Then Amnon said to Tamar, “Bring
the food into the chamber, that I
may eat from your hand.” And
Tamar took the cakes she had made
and brought them into the chamber
to Amnon her brother.
11 But when she brought them near
him to eat, he took hold of her and
said to her, “Come, lie with me, my
sister.” 12 She answered him, “No,
my brother, do not violate me,
for such a thing is not done in Israel;
do not do this outrageous thing.
2 Samuel 13
13 As for me, where could I carry my
shame? And as for you, you would
be as one of the outrageous fools in
Israel. Now therefore, please speak
to the king, for he will not withhold
me from you.”
2 Samuel 13
14 But he would not listen to her,
and being stronger than she, he
violated her and lay with her.
2 Samuel 13
15 Then Amnon hated her with very
great hatred, so that the hatred
with which he hated her was
greater than the love with which he
had loved her. And Amnon said to
her, “Get up! Go!”
2 Samuel 13
16 But she said to him, “No, my
brother, for this wrong in sending
me away is greater than the other
that you did to me.” But he would
not listen to her.
2 Samuel 13
17 He called the young man who
served him and said, “Put this
woman out of my presence and bolt
the door after her.”
2 Samuel 13
18 Now she was wearing a long robe
with sleeves, for thus were the
virgin daughters of the king dressed.
So his servant put her out and
bolted the door after her.
2 Samuel 13
19 And Tamar put ashes on her head
and tore the long robe that she
wore. And she laid her hand on her
head and went away, crying aloud
as she went.
20 And her brother Absalom said to
her, “Has Amnon your brother been
with you? Now hold your peace,
my sister. He is your brother; do
not take this to heart.” So Tamar
lived, a desolate woman, in her
brother Absalom's house.
Second Point
A Lesson from Absalom:
Avoiding hard
conversations can lead to
hardness of heart.
2 Samuel 13
21 When King David heard of all
these things, he was very angry.
22 But Absalom spoke to
Amnon neither good nor bad, for
Absalom hated Amnon, because he
had violated his sister Tamar.
2 Samuel 13
23 After two full years Absalom
had sheepshearers at Baal-hazor,
which is near Ephraim, and Absalom
invited all the king's sons.
2 Samuel 13
24 And Absalom came to the king
and said, “Behold, your servant has
sheepshearers. Please let the king
and his servants go with your
servant.”
2 Samuel 13
25 But the king said to Absalom, “No,
my son, let us not all go, lest we be
burdensome to you.” He pressed
him, but he would not go but gave
him his blessing.
2 Samuel 13
26 Then Absalom said, “If not, please
let my brother Amnon go with us.”
And the king said to him, “Why
should he go with you?”
2 Samuel 13
27 But Absalom pressed him until he
let Amnon and all the king's sons go
with him.
2 Samuel 13
28 Then Absalom commanded his
servants, “Mark when
Amnon's heart is merry with wine,
and when I say to you, ‘Strike
Amnon,’ then kill him. Do not fear;
have I not commanded you? Be
courageous and be valiant.”
2 Samuel 13
29 So the servants of Absalom did to
Amnon as Absalom had
commanded. Then all the king's
sons arose, and each mounted his
mule and fled.
2 Samuel 13
21 When King David heard of all
these things, he was very angry.
22 But Absalom spoke to
Amnon neither good nor bad, for
Absalom hated Amnon, because he
had violated his sister Tamar.
Third Point
A Lesson from David:
Avoiding hard
conversations can lead to
long-term dysfunction.
2 Samuel 13
21 When King David heard
of all these things, he was
very angry… 23 After two
full years…
2 Samuel 13
30 While they were on the way, news
came to David, “Absalom has struck
down all the king's sons, and not
one of them is left.”
2 Samuel 13
31 Then the king arose and tore his
garments and lay on the earth. And
all his servants who were standing
by tore their garments.
32 But Jonadab the son of Shimeah,
David's brother, said, “Let not my
lord suppose that they have killed
all the young men, the king's sons,
for Amnon alone is dead. For by the
command of Absalom this has been
determined from the day he
violated his sister Tamar.
2 Samuel 13
33 Now therefore let not my lord the
king so take it to heart as to
suppose that all the king's sons are
dead, for Amnon alone is dead.”
“When we avoid
difficult
conversations we
trade short-term
discomfort for long-
term dysfunction.”Peter
Bromberg
3 Hard Conversation
Options
1. We can avoid them.
2 Samuel 16:22
So they pitched a tent for
Absalom on the roof. And
Absalom went in to his father’s
concubines in the sight of all
Israel.
3 Hard Conversation
Options
1. We can avoid them.
2. We can face them and handle
them poorly.
3 Hard Conversation
Options
1. We can avoid them.
2. We can face them and handle
them poorly.
3. We can face them and handle
them well.
Hard Conversations: David, Amnon and Absalom

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Hard Conversations: David, Amnon and Absalom

  • 1.
  • 2. Series Verse As iron sharpens iron, so a friend sharpens a friend. Proverbs 27:17 (NLT)
  • 3. Series Outline 1.Nathan and David: Confronting sin. 2.David, Absalom and Amnon: Failing to confront sin. 3.Elijah and Elisha: The Big Ask. 4.Ananias and Jesus: Dangerous Encounters.
  • 4. Series Outline 5. Paul and Peter: Confronting a brother publicly. 6.Paul Barnabas: Agreeing to go separate ways. 7.Paul and Philemon: Asking a friend to “pay it forward”.
  • 5.
  • 6.
  • 7. David, Amnon and Absalom Failing to Confront Sin 2 Samuel 13
  • 8. First Point A Lesson from Tamar: A hindered hard conversation doubles grief.
  • 9. 2 Samuel 13 1 Now Absalom, David's son, had a beautiful sister, whose name was Tamar. And after a time Amnon, David's son, loved her.
  • 10. 2 Samuel 13 2 And Amnon was so tormented that he made himself ill because of his sister Tamar, for she was a virgin, and it seemed impossible to Amnon to do anything to her.
  • 11. 2 Samuel 13 3 But Amnon had a friend, whose name was Jonadab, the son of Shimeah, David's brother. And Jonadab was a very crafty man.
  • 12. 2 Samuel 13 4 And he said to him, “O son of the king, why are you so haggard morning after morning? Will you not tell me?” Amnon said to him, “I love Tamar, my brother Absalom's sister.”
  • 13. 5 Jonadab said to him, “Lie down on your bed and pretend to be ill. And when your father comes to see you, say to him, ‘Let my sister Tamar come and give me bread to eat, and prepare the food in my sight, that I may see it and eat it from her hand.’”
  • 14. 2 Samuel 13 6 So Amnon lay down and pretended to be ill. And when the king came to see him, Amnon said to the king, “Please let my sister Tamar come and make a couple of cakes in my sight, that I may eat from her hand.”
  • 15. 2 Samuel 13 7 Then David sent home to Tamar, saying, “Go to your brother Amnon's house and prepare food for him.”
  • 16. 2 Samuel 13 8 So Tamar went to her brother Amnon's house, where he was lying down. And she took dough and kneaded it and made cakes in his sight and baked the cakes.
  • 17. 2 Samuel 13 9 And she took the pan and emptied it out before him, but he refused to eat. And Amnon said, “Send out everyone from me.” So everyone went out from him.
  • 18. 2 Samuel 13 10 Then Amnon said to Tamar, “Bring the food into the chamber, that I may eat from your hand.” And Tamar took the cakes she had made and brought them into the chamber to Amnon her brother.
  • 19. 11 But when she brought them near him to eat, he took hold of her and said to her, “Come, lie with me, my sister.” 12 She answered him, “No, my brother, do not violate me, for such a thing is not done in Israel; do not do this outrageous thing.
  • 20. 2 Samuel 13 13 As for me, where could I carry my shame? And as for you, you would be as one of the outrageous fools in Israel. Now therefore, please speak to the king, for he will not withhold me from you.”
  • 21. 2 Samuel 13 14 But he would not listen to her, and being stronger than she, he violated her and lay with her.
  • 22. 2 Samuel 13 15 Then Amnon hated her with very great hatred, so that the hatred with which he hated her was greater than the love with which he had loved her. And Amnon said to her, “Get up! Go!”
  • 23. 2 Samuel 13 16 But she said to him, “No, my brother, for this wrong in sending me away is greater than the other that you did to me.” But he would not listen to her.
  • 24. 2 Samuel 13 17 He called the young man who served him and said, “Put this woman out of my presence and bolt the door after her.”
  • 25. 2 Samuel 13 18 Now she was wearing a long robe with sleeves, for thus were the virgin daughters of the king dressed. So his servant put her out and bolted the door after her.
  • 26. 2 Samuel 13 19 And Tamar put ashes on her head and tore the long robe that she wore. And she laid her hand on her head and went away, crying aloud as she went.
  • 27. 20 And her brother Absalom said to her, “Has Amnon your brother been with you? Now hold your peace, my sister. He is your brother; do not take this to heart.” So Tamar lived, a desolate woman, in her brother Absalom's house.
  • 28.
  • 29. Second Point A Lesson from Absalom: Avoiding hard conversations can lead to hardness of heart.
  • 30. 2 Samuel 13 21 When King David heard of all these things, he was very angry. 22 But Absalom spoke to Amnon neither good nor bad, for Absalom hated Amnon, because he had violated his sister Tamar.
  • 31. 2 Samuel 13 23 After two full years Absalom had sheepshearers at Baal-hazor, which is near Ephraim, and Absalom invited all the king's sons.
  • 32. 2 Samuel 13 24 And Absalom came to the king and said, “Behold, your servant has sheepshearers. Please let the king and his servants go with your servant.”
  • 33. 2 Samuel 13 25 But the king said to Absalom, “No, my son, let us not all go, lest we be burdensome to you.” He pressed him, but he would not go but gave him his blessing.
  • 34. 2 Samuel 13 26 Then Absalom said, “If not, please let my brother Amnon go with us.” And the king said to him, “Why should he go with you?”
  • 35. 2 Samuel 13 27 But Absalom pressed him until he let Amnon and all the king's sons go with him.
  • 36. 2 Samuel 13 28 Then Absalom commanded his servants, “Mark when Amnon's heart is merry with wine, and when I say to you, ‘Strike Amnon,’ then kill him. Do not fear; have I not commanded you? Be courageous and be valiant.”
  • 37. 2 Samuel 13 29 So the servants of Absalom did to Amnon as Absalom had commanded. Then all the king's sons arose, and each mounted his mule and fled.
  • 38. 2 Samuel 13 21 When King David heard of all these things, he was very angry. 22 But Absalom spoke to Amnon neither good nor bad, for Absalom hated Amnon, because he had violated his sister Tamar.
  • 39. Third Point A Lesson from David: Avoiding hard conversations can lead to long-term dysfunction.
  • 40. 2 Samuel 13 21 When King David heard of all these things, he was very angry… 23 After two full years…
  • 41. 2 Samuel 13 30 While they were on the way, news came to David, “Absalom has struck down all the king's sons, and not one of them is left.”
  • 42. 2 Samuel 13 31 Then the king arose and tore his garments and lay on the earth. And all his servants who were standing by tore their garments.
  • 43. 32 But Jonadab the son of Shimeah, David's brother, said, “Let not my lord suppose that they have killed all the young men, the king's sons, for Amnon alone is dead. For by the command of Absalom this has been determined from the day he violated his sister Tamar.
  • 44. 2 Samuel 13 33 Now therefore let not my lord the king so take it to heart as to suppose that all the king's sons are dead, for Amnon alone is dead.”
  • 45. “When we avoid difficult conversations we trade short-term discomfort for long- term dysfunction.”Peter Bromberg
  • 46. 3 Hard Conversation Options 1. We can avoid them.
  • 47. 2 Samuel 16:22 So they pitched a tent for Absalom on the roof. And Absalom went in to his father’s concubines in the sight of all Israel.
  • 48. 3 Hard Conversation Options 1. We can avoid them. 2. We can face them and handle them poorly.
  • 49. 3 Hard Conversation Options 1. We can avoid them. 2. We can face them and handle them poorly. 3. We can face them and handle them well.

Editor's Notes

  1. Series Verse As iron sharpens iron,     so a friend sharpens a friend. Proverbs 27:17 (NLT)
  2. Nathan and David: Confronting sin. David, Absalom and Amnon: Failing to confront sin. Elijah and Elisha: The Big Ask. Ananias and Jesus: Dangerous Encounters.
  3. Paul and Peter: Confronting a brother publicly. Paul Barnabas: Agreeing to go separate ways. Paul and Philemon: Asking a friend to “pay it forward”.
  4. One of my favorite cartoons growing up was The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle. It featured Bullwinkle, a talking moose and the multi-talented Rocket J. Squirrel, a talking squirrel who could fly. It featured so many memorable characters… the Russian spies, Boris and Natasha… the time traveling duo of Peabody and Sherman and the chivalrous Dudley Do Right of the Mounties. Rocky and Bullwinkle has been deemed to be one of the cartoons of the 50s with the greatest staying power… kids with access to old tv shows still love it.
  5. One of the regular features of this cartoon variety show was a segment called Fractured Fairy Tales. These were typically a familiar fairy tale with an odd twist. Like the story of Leaping Beauty who didn’t fall asleep herself, but was cursed so that she bored all the king’s subjects and put them to sleep. The story always began in such a way that it seemed to be leading towards the happily ever after, but then came the twist. Today’s message on hard conversations begins with the most tragic fractured fairy tales in the Bible, the story of Tamar and her brothers. And we will see that this fractured fairy tale has another key character… Tamar’s father, King David. Let’s dive into our text in 2 Samuel chapter 13
  6. First Point A Lesson from Tamar: A hindered hard conversation doubles grief.
  7. 13 Now Absalom, David's son, had a beautiful sister, whose name was Tamar. And after a time Amnon, David's son, loved her. 
  8. 2 And Amnon was so tormented that he made himself ill because of his sister Tamar, for she was a virgin, and it seemed impossible to Amnon to do anything to her. 
  9. 3 But Amnon had a friend, whose name was Jonadab, the son of Shimeah, David's brother. And Jonadab was a very crafty man. 
  10. 4 And he said to him, “O son of the king, why are you so haggard morning after morning? Will you not tell me?” Amnon said to him, “I love Tamar, my brother Absalom's sister.”
  11. 5 Jonadab said to him, “Lie down on your bed and pretend to be ill. And when your father comes to see you, say to him, ‘Let my sister Tamar come and give me bread to eat, and prepare the food in my sight, that I may see it and eat it from her hand.’”
  12. 6 So Amnon lay down and pretended to be ill. And when the king came to see him, Amnon said to the king, “Please let my sister Tamar come and make a couple of cakes in my sight, that I may eat from her hand.”
  13. 7 Then David sent home to Tamar, saying, “Go to your brother Amnon's house and prepare food for him.” 
  14. 7 Then David sent home to Tamar, saying, “Go to your brother Amnon's house and prepare food for him.” 
  15. 9 And she took the pan and emptied it out before him, but he refused to eat. And Amnon said, “Send out everyone from me.” So everyone went out from him. 
  16. 10 Then Amnon said to Tamar, “Bring the food into the chamber, that I may eat from your hand.” And Tamar took the cakes she had made and brought them into the chamber to Amnon her brother.
  17. 11 But when she brought them near him to eat, he took hold of her and said to her, “Come, lie with me, my sister.” 12 She answered him, “No, my brother, do not violate me, for such a thing is not done in Israel; do not do this outrageous thing. 
  18. 13 As for me, where could I carry my shame? And as for you, you would be as one of the outrageous fools in Israel. Now therefore, please speak to the king, for he will not withhold me from you.”
  19. 14 But he would not listen to her, and being stronger than she, he violated her and lay with her.
  20. 15 Then Amnon hated her with very great hatred, so that the hatred with which he hated her was greater than the love with which he had loved her. And Amnon said to her, “Get up! Go!” 
  21. 16 But she said to him, “No, my brother, for this wrong in sending me away is greater than the other that you did to me.” But he would not listen to her. 
  22. 17 He called the young man who served him and said, “Put this woman out of my presence and bolt the door after her.”
  23. 18 Now she was wearing a long robe with sleeves, for thus were the virgin daughters of the king dressed. So his servant put her out and bolted the door after her. 
  24. 19 And Tamar put ashes on her head and tore the long robe that she wore. And she laid her hand on her head and went away, crying aloud as she went.
  25. 20 And her brother Absalom said to her, “Has Amnon your brother been with you? Now hold your peace, my sister. He is your brother; do not take this to heart.” So Tamar lived, a desolate woman, in her brother Absalom's house. 
  26. Second Point: A Lesson from Absalom: Avoiding hard conversations can lead to hardness of heart.
  27. 21 When King David heard of all these things, he was very angry. 22 But Absalom spoke to Amnon neither good nor bad, for Absalom hated Amnon, because he had violated his sister Tamar. This
  28. 23 After two full years Absalom had sheepshearers at Baal-hazor, which is near Ephraim, and Absalom invited all the king's sons. 
  29. 24 And Absalom came to the king and said, “Behold, your servant has sheepshearers. Please let the king and his servants go with your servant.” 
  30. 25 But the king said to Absalom, “No, my son, let us not all go, lest we be burdensome to you.” He pressed him, but he would not go but gave him his blessing.
  31. 26 Then Absalom said, “If not, please let my brother Amnon go with us.” And the king said to him, “Why should he go with you?” 
  32. 27 But Absalom pressed him until he let Amnon and all the king's sons go with him.
  33. 28 Then Absalom commanded his servants, “Mark when Amnon's heart is merry with wine, and when I say to you, ‘Strike Amnon,’ then kill him. Do not fear; have I not commanded you? Be courageous and be valiant.”
  34. 29 So the servants of Absalom did to Amnon as Absalom had commanded. Then all the king's sons arose, and each mounted his mule and fled.
  35. 21 When King David heard of all these things, he was very angry. 22 But Absalom spoke to Amnon neither good nor bad, for Absalom hated Amnon, because he had violated his sister Tamar. This
  36. Third Point A Lesson from David: Avoiding hard conversations can lead to long-term dysfunction.
  37. 21 When King David heard of all these things, he was very angry… 23 After two full years…
  38. 30 While they were on the way, news came to David, “Absalom has struck down all the king's sons, and not one of them is left.” 
  39. 31 Then the king arose and tore his garments and lay on the earth. And all his servants who were standing by tore their garments. 
  40. 32 But Jonadab the son of Shimeah, David's brother, said, “Let not my lord suppose that they have killed all the young men, the king's sons, for Amnon alone is dead. For by the command of Absalom this has been determined from the day he violated his sister Tamar. 
  41. 33 Now therefore let not my lord the king so take it to heart as to suppose that all the king's sons are dead, for Amnon alone is dead.”
  42. “When we avoid difficult conversations we trade short-term discomfort for long- term dysfunction.” Peter Bromberg
  43. 3 Hard Conversation Options We can avoid them.
  44. We can face them and handle them poorly.
  45. We can face them and handle them well.