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Discounted Cash Flow &
Stock Valuation
By Jae Jun
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What You Will Learn
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● The purpose of using
DCF
● The advantage of the F
Wallstreet method
● The ideal number for
Terminal value
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The purpose of the
Discounted Cash Flow
valuation is to find the
sum of the future cash
flow of the business and
discount it back to a
present value. Photo credit: 401(K) 2013 / Foter / CC BY-SA
I use the F Wall Street
method of valuing a
business along with
some tweaks in the free
and best valuation
spreadsheets you can
find on this site.Photo credit: Andos_pics / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
The advantage of this
method is that it requires
the investor to think
about the stock as a
business and analyze its
cash flow rather than
earnings. Photo credit: opensourceway / Foter / CC BY-SA
The first and foremost
reason a business exists
is to make money where
money = cash, not
earnings.
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Since cash is what a
business needs in order
to maintain and grow its
operations,
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it’s only right to consider
the possibility of its
future cash growth rather
than earnings growth.
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The disadvantage is that
DCF is not suitable for
start ups,
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growth companies or
capital intensive
companies where the
cash flow cannot be
accurately determined.
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The error of prediction
and assumptions must
also be dealt with in the
DCF, which we cover with
margin of safety.
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I’ll go through the many
assumptions to consider
with a DCF and how to
effectively use it with the
stock valuation
calculator.
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Discounted Cash Flow
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FCF = Cash from
Operations – Capital
Expenditure
The number we want to
use is the cash generated
from ongoing business
operations.
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This is the cash that is
recurring and will allow
the business to grow.
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Cash from one time sales
of property or a
subsidiary should be
taken out, it is of low
importance compared to
the recurring cash.
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Since we are looking at
cash over different
timeframes to normalize
the data,
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I don’t believe it to be a
cause of concern.
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Excluding these items
would provide a better
indication of how the
cash has been growing
before these additional
additions.
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This would not produce a
more conservative
number but a better
indication of the actual
FCF growth.
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If we use FactSet
Research Systems (FDS)
as an example,
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the median FCF growth
over 10 years is 29.8%
whereas the FCF value
minus taxes and other
produces a median FCF
growth of 34.1%.
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To truly get a better
accuracy in your DCF, the
amount of maintenance
capex and capex used for
growth has to be
distinguished.
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Expected Growth
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This is where we get to
the artsy side of the DCF
and where we have to
come up with a number
for the indefinite future.
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I generally use the
median FCF growth over
10 or 5 years depending
on the company.
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I also compare it to the
PE since that is what the
market expects from the
company.
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The exception is when
the FCF growth rate or PE
are ridiculously high, it’s
unsustainable.
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My cap for the highest
growth is limited to 15%
to be conservative.
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The goal of choosing a
growth rate = find a
number which is
conservative yet not low
balling,
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and close to reality in
order to capture potential
future gains without
eliminating too many
investment candidates.
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Discount Rate
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I lean very strongly
towards present dollars
rather than future dollars.
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I use a high discount rate
because I prefer the
certainty of the present
cash rather than the
uncertainty of the future.
People in the finance
world pour out their
hearts to obtain the most
accurate discount rate by
analysing -
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● risk free rates,
● beta,
● risk premium and
● WACC.
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I say rubbish to all this.
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What’s the point in
learning every method of
hammering a nail when
all you have to do is hit it
on the head.
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Graham - Buffett
investments are based on
common sense, not
volatility and other
mumbo jumbo.
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Terminal Value
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Since it isn’t practical to
forecast cash flows for an
infinite number of years,
it’s usual to end the DCF
with a terminal value.
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On the spreadsheet, the
terminal value is 3%
(although the text says
5%).
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Discounted Cash Flow
Photo credit: alexcoitus / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
DCF receives a bad rep
with the crowd and
growth players because
they call it driving with
the rear-view mirror.
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But in the private
business world where
estimates and PE’s are
absolutely irrelevant,
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cash is what is used to
judge the value of a
business.
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For an idea of the
accuracy of a Discounted
Cash Flow analysis,
check out my intrinsic
values vs Morningstar’s.
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Old School Value
Jae Jun (jae.jun@oldschoolvalue.com)
http://www.oldschoolvalue.com
Old School Value improves your
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Discounted cash flow & stock valuation

  • 1. Discounted Cash Flow & Stock Valuation By Jae Jun www.oldschoolvalue.com Photo credit: Kurayba / Foter / CC BY-SA
  • 2. What You Will Learn Photo credit: alexcoitus / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 3. ● The purpose of using DCF ● The advantage of the F Wallstreet method ● The ideal number for Terminal value Photo credit: Mufidah Kassalias / Foter / CC BY-ND
  • 4. The purpose of the Discounted Cash Flow valuation is to find the sum of the future cash flow of the business and discount it back to a present value. Photo credit: 401(K) 2013 / Foter / CC BY-SA
  • 5. I use the F Wall Street method of valuing a business along with some tweaks in the free and best valuation spreadsheets you can find on this site.Photo credit: Andos_pics / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 6. The advantage of this method is that it requires the investor to think about the stock as a business and analyze its cash flow rather than earnings. Photo credit: opensourceway / Foter / CC BY-SA
  • 7. The first and foremost reason a business exists is to make money where money = cash, not earnings. Photo credit: Foter / CC BY-SA
  • 8. Since cash is what a business needs in order to maintain and grow its operations, Photo credit: E_TAVARES / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 9. it’s only right to consider the possibility of its future cash growth rather than earnings growth. Photo credit: JTPhotographe / Foter / CC BY-NC-ND
  • 10. The disadvantage is that DCF is not suitable for start ups, Photo credit: hackNY / Foter / CC BY-SA
  • 11. growth companies or capital intensive companies where the cash flow cannot be accurately determined. Photo credit: Jamie McCaffrey / Foter / CC BY
  • 12. The error of prediction and assumptions must also be dealt with in the DCF, which we cover with margin of safety. Photo credit: ✖ Daniel Rehn / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 13. I’ll go through the many assumptions to consider with a DCF and how to effectively use it with the stock valuation calculator. Photo credit: ansik / Foter / CC BY
  • 14. Discounted Cash Flow Photo credit: alexcoitus / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 15. FCF = Cash from Operations – Capital Expenditure
  • 16. The number we want to use is the cash generated from ongoing business operations. Photo credit: andymag / Foter / CC BY
  • 17. This is the cash that is recurring and will allow the business to grow. Photo credit: D-Stanley / Foter / CC BY
  • 18. Cash from one time sales of property or a subsidiary should be taken out, it is of low importance compared to the recurring cash. Photo credit: markus spiske / Foter / CC BY
  • 19. Since we are looking at cash over different timeframes to normalize the data, Photo credit: Robbert van der Steeg / Foter / CC BY-NC
  • 20. I don’t believe it to be a cause of concern. Photo credit: BEYOURPET / Foter / CC BY-NC-ND
  • 21. Excluding these items would provide a better indication of how the cash has been growing before these additional additions. Photo credit: Cat Burton / Foter / CC BY-NC-ND
  • 22. This would not produce a more conservative number but a better indication of the actual FCF growth. Photo credit: Stuck in Customs / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 23. If we use FactSet Research Systems (FDS) as an example, Photo credit: it's tea / Foter / CC BY-NC-ND
  • 24. the median FCF growth over 10 years is 29.8% whereas the FCF value minus taxes and other produces a median FCF growth of 34.1%. Photo credit: Rushtips.com / Foter / CC BY-SA
  • 25. To truly get a better accuracy in your DCF, the amount of maintenance capex and capex used for growth has to be distinguished. Photo credit: readerwalker / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 26. Expected Growth Photo credit: alexcoitus / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 27. This is where we get to the artsy side of the DCF and where we have to come up with a number for the indefinite future. Photo credit: Zorislav Stojanović / Foter / CC BY-NC
  • 28. I generally use the median FCF growth over 10 or 5 years depending on the company. Photo credit: Jens Rost / Foter / CC BY-SA
  • 29. I also compare it to the PE since that is what the market expects from the company. Photo credit: Boston Public Library / Foter / CC BY-NC-ND
  • 30. The exception is when the FCF growth rate or PE are ridiculously high, it’s unsustainable. Photo credit: Owen's / Foter / CC BY-NC
  • 31. My cap for the highest growth is limited to 15% to be conservative. Photo credit: xxxtoff / Foter / CC BY-NC-ND
  • 32. The goal of choosing a growth rate = find a number which is conservative yet not low balling, Photo credit: Jan Jespersen / Foter / CC BY-NC
  • 33. and close to reality in order to capture potential future gains without eliminating too many investment candidates. Photo credit: thinkpanama / Foter / CC BY-NC
  • 34. Discount Rate Photo credit: alexcoitus / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 35. I lean very strongly towards present dollars rather than future dollars. Photo credit: reubenaingber / Foter / CC BY
  • 36. I use a high discount rate because I prefer the certainty of the present cash rather than the uncertainty of the future.
  • 37. People in the finance world pour out their hearts to obtain the most accurate discount rate by analysing - Photo credit: jurvetson / Foter / CC BY
  • 38. ● risk free rates, ● beta, ● risk premium and ● WACC. Photo credit: Foter / CC BY-SA
  • 39. I say rubbish to all this. Photo credit: geoftheref / Foter / CC BY-NC-ND
  • 40. What’s the point in learning every method of hammering a nail when all you have to do is hit it on the head. Photo credit: Cayusa / Foter / CC BY-NC
  • 41. Graham - Buffett investments are based on common sense, not volatility and other mumbo jumbo. Photo credit: TEDizen / Foter / CC BY
  • 42. Terminal Value Photo credit: alexcoitus / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 43. Since it isn’t practical to forecast cash flows for an infinite number of years, it’s usual to end the DCF with a terminal value. Photo credit: Gwydion M. Williams / Foter / CC BY
  • 44. On the spreadsheet, the terminal value is 3% (although the text says 5%). Photo credit: spelio / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 45. Discounted Cash Flow Photo credit: alexcoitus / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 46. DCF receives a bad rep with the crowd and growth players because they call it driving with the rear-view mirror. Photo credit: Leonrw / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 47. But in the private business world where estimates and PE’s are absolutely irrelevant, Photo credit: What What / Foter / CC BY-NC-SA
  • 48. cash is what is used to judge the value of a business. Photo credit: Rumble Press / Foter / CC BY
  • 49. For an idea of the accuracy of a Discounted Cash Flow analysis, check out my intrinsic values vs Morningstar’s. Photo credit: Rumble Press / Foter / CC BY
  • 50. Old School Value Jae Jun (jae.jun@oldschoolvalue.com) http://www.oldschoolvalue.com Old School Value improves your investment decisions and performs deep fundamental analysis and valuation for you. Just like a personal stock analyst.