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Artificial intelligence in medicine
Or, are we there yet?
Kristijan Šarić, EXACT BYTE
Who am I?
● 15+ years of experience with programming (Java, Haskell, …) and the last 5+ years experience with AI/ML
● Products using NLP (entity recognition, sentiment analysis):
○ https://www.emprovio.com/
○ https://alenn.ai/
○ https://contetino.com/
● Mobile application for recognizing the sign language alphabet (for “deaf” people)
● Application for recognizing breast cancer
● Application for detecting epilepsy (in progress, cooperation with doctors in Croatia)?
● Application for chest radiograph diagnosis (CheXpert, in progress, cooperation with a doctor)
● Non-medical:
○ Web application for detecting parking spaces, working on a small device (think Raspberry Pi)
○ Application for recognizing roads and road signs, "Mini Tesla" project on a small car
○ Application for automatic fault detection in automation
● https://exact-byte.com/en-blog/
● Not a ML researcher, but ML practitioner - “take” things that really smart people did and try to use them to build
something practical
Why this presentation?
● A series of free applications/articles to promote myself and my company
● An opportunity to open up doors with a hospital or somebody interested to cooperate
● Taking a relatively known/researched problem(s) and create a ML solution that can
actually bring value and show you the result
● Create something that can actually help people and learn something along the way?
What I want to emphasize before diving in
● I’m not a doctor, even though I work and have worked with them
● My focus is on ML and not on the medical aspects, if you ask me a medical question, I
probably won’t know it
● I don’t believe doctors can be replaced, ever
● I don’t believe cars can drive on their own for another 10 years and wouldn’t let one
drive me
● I believe we can create tools that can help people, even doctors to do their job easier
● Any complex questions/ideas regarding ML used here after the talk, please, this
should be a general and light(er) presentation
Where do I live?
● Pula, city in Croatia, on the coast, near Italy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pula
Machine learning
Machine learning
Machine learning
Image (examples) Neural network
Dog
Cat
Mobile application for recognizing the sign language
alphabet (for deaf people)
Slika ruke 3d koordinate ruke
A
https://youtu.be/7fXDFWrAA6Q
What does it do?
HZJ
What does it do?
In real-time!
On weak
devices!
GPU
accelerated!
Application for recognizing breast cancer
https://youtu.be/HBCfqnEEYfU
Solution
Program that help in
detection/diagnosis
The user presents the same images
a radiologist would look at and
based on that images, presents the
result back with his own opinion
where the suspect area is and what
should be considered
Existing
research
Program research shows improvement of
average radiologists precision, 6 in 1000
more women can be saved,
using data from that research
Result
Program that interprets images from
mammography and shows critical
regions for each of the mammography
images (L-CC, R-CC, L-MLO, R-MLO)
OB Pula
A doctor checked the results of the
program after training (fine-tuning) the
program on 1000 images (OB Pula
has around 6000 images yearly)
After the analysis of the results I got after analyzing around
30 patients on the program you provided,
I consider that the program can help in the detection of
the shadows that the radiologists needs to analyze, but
not in (more) certain differentiation of benign and malignant
shadows.
The current program thus cannot be of a significant help to
the radiologist.
Implementation of the program
● Ideally, we would like to have a team of doctors who would annotate our data set
● Realistically, you first need to gain their trust and show them something that works
● We want to be as time efficient as possible, not waste the precious time doctors have and
show them something valuable
● So, a lot of data (images), deep neural network to exclude feature extraction as much as
possible, and a result which can be visually interpretable
● Based on the work of “An interpretable classifier for high-resolution breast cancer screening
images utilizing weakly supervised localization” - https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.07613
● We requested images from patients, BI-RADS grading
● Wrapped the application in a web application, made some minor modifications/tweaks
What is the state of the program?
● Doctors (in OB Pula) weren’t that enthusiastic about the program, the general comments were
that it was a good idea, most/all of them were aware of the program, and thought that it
might be useful, but nobody actually used it or tested it
● They requested that the program I made be integrated into an existing program they used
since it was hard to download 4 images and the upload them into the web interface to see
the results
● The software that they used is a medical software and requires all of their components to be
certified - the certification is about 7000 EUR, and the program first needs to be tested
● Not one doctor actually tested the program until I personally paid for their time
● I contacted everybody I could think of in Croatia, including KBC Rijeka, KBC Zagreb, different
associations for cancer support (Gea), newspapers, private polyclinics, …
Machine learning
Machine learning
Machine learning
Image (examples) Neural network
Dog
Cat
Machine learning
Image (examples) Neural network
Malignant
Benign
Neural networks
Magic
0.75 0.32
Neural networks
Magic
[0.75, 0.35, 1.7, -4.5] [0.63, -3.56, 0]
Neural networks
Magic
[ 0.75
, 0.35
, -4.5
]
[ 0.63
, -3.56
, 0
]
CheXpert
https://stanfordmlgroup.github.io/competitions/chexpert/
CheXpert
● Cooperation with a doctor, dr. Marko Bukna
● Decent results, comparable to SOTA (State Of The Art)
● Model has achieved radiologist-level performance (even on baseline)
● Very big dataset (400+ GB)
● Takes long to train/test/modify
● Ensembles take even longer
● Ended up using GPU/TPU (Tensor Processing Unit) for training the model
○ 320, BS=256, NVIDIA V100 -> 3551.679718017578 seconds ~ 1 hour / epoch
○ 320, BS=512, 4 X NVIDIA T4 -> 4221.291954755783 seconds ~ 70 min / epoch
○ 320, BS=128, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super with Max-Q Design -> 3449.3205976486206 seconds ~ 57.5 min / epoch
○
○ 224, BS=256, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super with Max-Q Design -> 1529.4829297065735 seconds ~ 25 min / epoch
○ 224, BS=256, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 -> 1100.0 seconds ~ 16 min / epoch
How does the data look like?
How does the data look like?
● Size of the data
○ 224.316 chest radiographs of 65.240 patients (paper)
○ Train: 223.414 entries (191.027 frontal)
○ Test: 202 entries
○ Smaller dataset - CheXpert-v1.0-small - 11.6 GB
○ “Normal” dataset - CheXpert-v1.0 - 471.1 GB (can’t unzip on my laptop)
● Attributes
○ Path (of the image)
○ Sex
○ Age
○ Frontal/Lateral
○ AP/PA projection (ignore)
○ Labels - Pneumonia, Fracture, … (14) - 1, 0, -1
● Train/Test split disaster
● Separation by patient, multiple images
Example image
Machine learning
Machine learning
Machine learning labels
Image (examples) Neural network
…
Fracture
Pneumonia
Machine learning classes (14)
● No Finding
● Enlarged Cardiomediastinum
● Cardiomegaly
● Lung Opacity
● Lung Lesion
● Edema
● Consolidation
● Pneumonia
● Atelectasis
● Pneumothorax
● Pleural Effusion
● Pleural Other
● Fracture
● Support Devices
Machine learning classes
Image (examples) Neural network
● No Finding
● Enlarged Cardiomediastinum
● Cardiomegaly
● Lung Opacity
● Lung Lesion
● Edema
● Consolidation
● Pneumonia
● Atelectasis
● Pneumothorax
● Pleural Effusion
● Pleural Other
● Fracture
● Support Devices
Machine learning labels, multi-label classification
Image (examples) Neural network
● No Finding
● Enlarged Cardiomediastinum
● Cardiomegaly
● Lung Opacity
● Lung Lesion
● Edema
● Consolidation
● Pneumonia
● Atelectasis
● Pneumothorax
● Pleural Effusion
● Pleural Other
● Fracture
● Support Devices
Existing work, research
● https://arxiv.org/pdf/1901.07031.pdf
● https://arxiv.org/pdf/2012.03173v2.pdf
● Deep learning for chest radiograph diagnosis: A retrospective
comparison of the CheXNeXt algorithm to practicing radiologists.
● Stanford Baseline AUC = 0.9065
● True positive rate (TPR), recall, sensitivity, probability of detection =
TP/P
● False positive rate (FPR), probability of false alarm = FP/N
● AUC = Area Under Curve (ROC)
Existing work, research, heatmap
Existing work, research
● Research at Stanford
● 9 radiologists
● The average time for radiologists to complete labeling of 420 chest
radiographs - 240 minutes
● The deep learning algorithm labeled the same 420 chest radiographs
in 1.5 minutes and produced heat maps highlighting areas of the
image
● What do you think the result was?
Existing work, research
Single model results
● Much worse than expected
● Tried quite a number of them:
○ DenseNet (121, 161, 201)
○ Resnet (34, 50)
○ AttentionNet (CNN + “attention”)
○ EfficientNet
○ …
● Multiple resolutions (320X320, 512X512, 1024X1024), 400GB+ DATA
● Multiple transformations (to see if it will affect generality)
● Different optimizers
● Different loss functions (BCE, BCEWithLogits, …)
● Custom dataset split
Avengers, assemble!
Ensembles, avenge!
Ensembles, avenge!
Data
Neural network 1 Neural network 2 Neural network 3
Result aggregation
Final result
What are the real issues?
● Unless you have connections or people that you know in the “industry”, nobody cares
● Doctors have too much work but are unable to accept help when it could save their time or make their lives easier
(plenty of areas to improve on here)
● Even if they do find the program useful, and the use of it interesting, they are rarely willing to invest time into it
● Chicken - egg problem
● Finding space to innovate with doctors willing to innovate and create a tool that has the potential to save people’s
lives
● Maybe find a group of young people to work on their PhDs?
● Associations for survivors of breast cancer (Gea), and others, which are covered on the TV and which literally
promote “Breast cancer is curable if detected early” don’t have the time to investigate an actual program that is
used to detect breast cancer (early), too busy organising marathons and other “awareness” activities (EU funds,
mind you) - I guess we are all about “awareness” nowadays (I put a flag of Ukraine on my profile, therefore I’m
helping)
● If people don’t care about this, and this literally saves lives, even though it’s mostly a re-used model from research,
what can I expect people will care about? Detecting EEG from epilepsy? Detecting cancer from histopathological
samples? Detecting brain cancer? Improving chances for surviving cancer? Researching the protein “zoo” for
finding some magical cure? Who needs to care about this? Who does care? What is the point of all this if you don’t
have support? Am I insane because I think this is important?
Conclusion
● Utter frustration
● Do we have research institutions that actually research? Where does this fit in? Why not?
● Like in most other industries, “best practice” is usually 10 years late, promoted by some health industry behemoth
or somebody who has the connections with one, no actual innovation
● Just looking into the potential to innovate in the health industry is mind-blowing and can be seen on every corner,
but unless somebody takes the first step, that innovation is impossible
● (Most of the) doctors that I talked with are looking for solutions that they don’t have to test, work on, invest time in
and are free - in other words, they want to keep doing what they do, until somebody tells them otherwise
● To implement (all) these innovations, a smaller private health company should take the first step, innovate and
promote, others will follow, and money seems to be the only thing that will motivate this transition
● Let me extend my hand here - if you are that company or know people willing to use tools like these in the health
industry, please contact me, I will do the work for free if it’s useful
● If you are a doctor/medical staff and want to join me in this project in any way - do contact me, I’m considering
actually partnering to implement ideas like these ones - radiology, cytology/pathology

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[DigiHealth 22] Artificial intelligence in medicine - Kristijan Saric

  • 1. Artificial intelligence in medicine Or, are we there yet? Kristijan Šarić, EXACT BYTE
  • 2. Who am I? ● 15+ years of experience with programming (Java, Haskell, …) and the last 5+ years experience with AI/ML ● Products using NLP (entity recognition, sentiment analysis): ○ https://www.emprovio.com/ ○ https://alenn.ai/ ○ https://contetino.com/ ● Mobile application for recognizing the sign language alphabet (for “deaf” people) ● Application for recognizing breast cancer ● Application for detecting epilepsy (in progress, cooperation with doctors in Croatia)? ● Application for chest radiograph diagnosis (CheXpert, in progress, cooperation with a doctor) ● Non-medical: ○ Web application for detecting parking spaces, working on a small device (think Raspberry Pi) ○ Application for recognizing roads and road signs, "Mini Tesla" project on a small car ○ Application for automatic fault detection in automation ● https://exact-byte.com/en-blog/ ● Not a ML researcher, but ML practitioner - “take” things that really smart people did and try to use them to build something practical
  • 3. Why this presentation? ● A series of free applications/articles to promote myself and my company ● An opportunity to open up doors with a hospital or somebody interested to cooperate ● Taking a relatively known/researched problem(s) and create a ML solution that can actually bring value and show you the result ● Create something that can actually help people and learn something along the way?
  • 4. What I want to emphasize before diving in ● I’m not a doctor, even though I work and have worked with them ● My focus is on ML and not on the medical aspects, if you ask me a medical question, I probably won’t know it ● I don’t believe doctors can be replaced, ever ● I don’t believe cars can drive on their own for another 10 years and wouldn’t let one drive me ● I believe we can create tools that can help people, even doctors to do their job easier ● Any complex questions/ideas regarding ML used here after the talk, please, this should be a general and light(er) presentation
  • 5. Where do I live? ● Pula, city in Croatia, on the coast, near Italy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pula
  • 8. Machine learning Image (examples) Neural network Dog Cat
  • 9. Mobile application for recognizing the sign language alphabet (for deaf people) Slika ruke 3d koordinate ruke A https://youtu.be/7fXDFWrAA6Q
  • 10. What does it do? HZJ
  • 11. What does it do? In real-time! On weak devices! GPU accelerated!
  • 12. Application for recognizing breast cancer https://youtu.be/HBCfqnEEYfU
  • 13. Solution Program that help in detection/diagnosis The user presents the same images a radiologist would look at and based on that images, presents the result back with his own opinion where the suspect area is and what should be considered
  • 14. Existing research Program research shows improvement of average radiologists precision, 6 in 1000 more women can be saved, using data from that research
  • 15. Result Program that interprets images from mammography and shows critical regions for each of the mammography images (L-CC, R-CC, L-MLO, R-MLO)
  • 16. OB Pula A doctor checked the results of the program after training (fine-tuning) the program on 1000 images (OB Pula has around 6000 images yearly) After the analysis of the results I got after analyzing around 30 patients on the program you provided, I consider that the program can help in the detection of the shadows that the radiologists needs to analyze, but not in (more) certain differentiation of benign and malignant shadows. The current program thus cannot be of a significant help to the radiologist.
  • 17. Implementation of the program ● Ideally, we would like to have a team of doctors who would annotate our data set ● Realistically, you first need to gain their trust and show them something that works ● We want to be as time efficient as possible, not waste the precious time doctors have and show them something valuable ● So, a lot of data (images), deep neural network to exclude feature extraction as much as possible, and a result which can be visually interpretable ● Based on the work of “An interpretable classifier for high-resolution breast cancer screening images utilizing weakly supervised localization” - https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.07613 ● We requested images from patients, BI-RADS grading ● Wrapped the application in a web application, made some minor modifications/tweaks
  • 18. What is the state of the program? ● Doctors (in OB Pula) weren’t that enthusiastic about the program, the general comments were that it was a good idea, most/all of them were aware of the program, and thought that it might be useful, but nobody actually used it or tested it ● They requested that the program I made be integrated into an existing program they used since it was hard to download 4 images and the upload them into the web interface to see the results ● The software that they used is a medical software and requires all of their components to be certified - the certification is about 7000 EUR, and the program first needs to be tested ● Not one doctor actually tested the program until I personally paid for their time ● I contacted everybody I could think of in Croatia, including KBC Rijeka, KBC Zagreb, different associations for cancer support (Gea), newspapers, private polyclinics, …
  • 21. Machine learning Image (examples) Neural network Dog Cat
  • 22. Machine learning Image (examples) Neural network Malignant Benign
  • 24. Neural networks Magic [0.75, 0.35, 1.7, -4.5] [0.63, -3.56, 0]
  • 25. Neural networks Magic [ 0.75 , 0.35 , -4.5 ] [ 0.63 , -3.56 , 0 ]
  • 27. CheXpert ● Cooperation with a doctor, dr. Marko Bukna ● Decent results, comparable to SOTA (State Of The Art) ● Model has achieved radiologist-level performance (even on baseline) ● Very big dataset (400+ GB) ● Takes long to train/test/modify ● Ensembles take even longer ● Ended up using GPU/TPU (Tensor Processing Unit) for training the model ○ 320, BS=256, NVIDIA V100 -> 3551.679718017578 seconds ~ 1 hour / epoch ○ 320, BS=512, 4 X NVIDIA T4 -> 4221.291954755783 seconds ~ 70 min / epoch ○ 320, BS=128, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super with Max-Q Design -> 3449.3205976486206 seconds ~ 57.5 min / epoch ○ ○ 224, BS=256, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super with Max-Q Design -> 1529.4829297065735 seconds ~ 25 min / epoch ○ 224, BS=256, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 -> 1100.0 seconds ~ 16 min / epoch
  • 28. How does the data look like?
  • 29. How does the data look like? ● Size of the data ○ 224.316 chest radiographs of 65.240 patients (paper) ○ Train: 223.414 entries (191.027 frontal) ○ Test: 202 entries ○ Smaller dataset - CheXpert-v1.0-small - 11.6 GB ○ “Normal” dataset - CheXpert-v1.0 - 471.1 GB (can’t unzip on my laptop) ● Attributes ○ Path (of the image) ○ Sex ○ Age ○ Frontal/Lateral ○ AP/PA projection (ignore) ○ Labels - Pneumonia, Fracture, … (14) - 1, 0, -1 ● Train/Test split disaster ● Separation by patient, multiple images
  • 33. Machine learning labels Image (examples) Neural network … Fracture Pneumonia
  • 34. Machine learning classes (14) ● No Finding ● Enlarged Cardiomediastinum ● Cardiomegaly ● Lung Opacity ● Lung Lesion ● Edema ● Consolidation ● Pneumonia ● Atelectasis ● Pneumothorax ● Pleural Effusion ● Pleural Other ● Fracture ● Support Devices
  • 35. Machine learning classes Image (examples) Neural network ● No Finding ● Enlarged Cardiomediastinum ● Cardiomegaly ● Lung Opacity ● Lung Lesion ● Edema ● Consolidation ● Pneumonia ● Atelectasis ● Pneumothorax ● Pleural Effusion ● Pleural Other ● Fracture ● Support Devices
  • 36. Machine learning labels, multi-label classification Image (examples) Neural network ● No Finding ● Enlarged Cardiomediastinum ● Cardiomegaly ● Lung Opacity ● Lung Lesion ● Edema ● Consolidation ● Pneumonia ● Atelectasis ● Pneumothorax ● Pleural Effusion ● Pleural Other ● Fracture ● Support Devices
  • 37. Existing work, research ● https://arxiv.org/pdf/1901.07031.pdf ● https://arxiv.org/pdf/2012.03173v2.pdf ● Deep learning for chest radiograph diagnosis: A retrospective comparison of the CheXNeXt algorithm to practicing radiologists. ● Stanford Baseline AUC = 0.9065 ● True positive rate (TPR), recall, sensitivity, probability of detection = TP/P ● False positive rate (FPR), probability of false alarm = FP/N ● AUC = Area Under Curve (ROC)
  • 39. Existing work, research ● Research at Stanford ● 9 radiologists ● The average time for radiologists to complete labeling of 420 chest radiographs - 240 minutes ● The deep learning algorithm labeled the same 420 chest radiographs in 1.5 minutes and produced heat maps highlighting areas of the image ● What do you think the result was?
  • 41. Single model results ● Much worse than expected ● Tried quite a number of them: ○ DenseNet (121, 161, 201) ○ Resnet (34, 50) ○ AttentionNet (CNN + “attention”) ○ EfficientNet ○ … ● Multiple resolutions (320X320, 512X512, 1024X1024), 400GB+ DATA ● Multiple transformations (to see if it will affect generality) ● Different optimizers ● Different loss functions (BCE, BCEWithLogits, …) ● Custom dataset split
  • 44. Ensembles, avenge! Data Neural network 1 Neural network 2 Neural network 3 Result aggregation Final result
  • 45. What are the real issues? ● Unless you have connections or people that you know in the “industry”, nobody cares ● Doctors have too much work but are unable to accept help when it could save their time or make their lives easier (plenty of areas to improve on here) ● Even if they do find the program useful, and the use of it interesting, they are rarely willing to invest time into it ● Chicken - egg problem ● Finding space to innovate with doctors willing to innovate and create a tool that has the potential to save people’s lives ● Maybe find a group of young people to work on their PhDs? ● Associations for survivors of breast cancer (Gea), and others, which are covered on the TV and which literally promote “Breast cancer is curable if detected early” don’t have the time to investigate an actual program that is used to detect breast cancer (early), too busy organising marathons and other “awareness” activities (EU funds, mind you) - I guess we are all about “awareness” nowadays (I put a flag of Ukraine on my profile, therefore I’m helping) ● If people don’t care about this, and this literally saves lives, even though it’s mostly a re-used model from research, what can I expect people will care about? Detecting EEG from epilepsy? Detecting cancer from histopathological samples? Detecting brain cancer? Improving chances for surviving cancer? Researching the protein “zoo” for finding some magical cure? Who needs to care about this? Who does care? What is the point of all this if you don’t have support? Am I insane because I think this is important?
  • 46. Conclusion ● Utter frustration ● Do we have research institutions that actually research? Where does this fit in? Why not? ● Like in most other industries, “best practice” is usually 10 years late, promoted by some health industry behemoth or somebody who has the connections with one, no actual innovation ● Just looking into the potential to innovate in the health industry is mind-blowing and can be seen on every corner, but unless somebody takes the first step, that innovation is impossible ● (Most of the) doctors that I talked with are looking for solutions that they don’t have to test, work on, invest time in and are free - in other words, they want to keep doing what they do, until somebody tells them otherwise ● To implement (all) these innovations, a smaller private health company should take the first step, innovate and promote, others will follow, and money seems to be the only thing that will motivate this transition ● Let me extend my hand here - if you are that company or know people willing to use tools like these in the health industry, please contact me, I will do the work for free if it’s useful ● If you are a doctor/medical staff and want to join me in this project in any way - do contact me, I’m considering actually partnering to implement ideas like these ones - radiology, cytology/pathology