SlideShare a Scribd company logo
1 of 72
HVAC Ductwork Issues II
CEM 350
Facility Systems Design
Neil Opfer
Instructor
UNLV CEM Program
Monthly Heating Costs vs.
HVAC Duct Leakage
Percent
Monthly
Cooling/
Heating
Costs
10% 15% 20%
$125 $12.50 $18.75 $25.00
$175 $17.50 $26.25 $35.00
$225 $22.50 $33.75 $45.00
$275 $27.50 $41.25 $55.00
$325 $32.50 $48.75 $65.00
HVAC Ductwork
Problems
The owner converted the original duct work system to
make it run over the attic to distribute air. It’s nothing
wrong to run air duct over attic, but difficult to do it
right. When air ducts penetrate interior (warm - room
temperature) and attic (cold - exterior temperature),
condensation is very easy cause problem in ductwork
and ceiling penetrations, especially in winter
cold climate days. To eliminate the condensation
problem, it has to rely on the insulation around the air
duct (air tight seal to ductwork and the vertical
penetration between interior and attic). However, an
air tight seal is very difficult to achieve or overlooked
during construction.
HVAC Maintenance Issues -
1
MAINTENANCE DIFFICULTIES: -
1
 In many attics the air handler
system is installed in the corner,
sometimes behind the supply and
return ductwork. The only way to get
to the filter for regular cleaning or
replacement (monthly) is to climb
over the ductwork, sometimes
damaging the ducts.
HVAC Maintenance Issues -
2
 Most homeowners don’t even go into the
attic to change the filter, even if the air
handler is easy to access. Because of this
hard to access filter, most filters are not
changed on a regular basis, causing the
filter and cooling coil to become dirty and
clogged, reducing the efficiency and air
circulation of the already inefficient
system. The house will have increased
operational costs and the furthest rooms
from the air handler will not be cooled or
heated efficiently or adequately.
HVAC Maintenance Issues -
3
 SOLUTIONS - 1
1.Keep the air handler unit and ductwork
inside the thermal envelope.
2.Installing the air handler in a first or second
floor closet with proper insulation and
access for service.
3.Install a proper ductwork distribution system.
4.Install the full supply ductwork system below
the upper floor ceiling, boxed into a soffit
that would run down the center of the
hallway of the house.
HVAC Maintenance Issues -
4
 SOLUTIONS - 2
1. All ductwork joints should be sealed.
2. All attic ductwork should be sealed and
double insulated to reduce heat and
cooling losses into the attic.
3. An air handler that must be installed in the
attic should be installed inside an attic
room that has insulated stud walls and
ceiling, as well as sheathing on the exterior
of the room.
4. Also, install an exterior grade door for
access and to maintain a proper thermal
envelope
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 1
Ductwork in the attic runs from
two sources:
1. From the furnace installed
anywhere in the house or in the
attic.
2. From the air handler installed
in the house or in the attic.
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 2
There are several reasons for
running ductwork in the attic:
1. House is very big and spacious
and there not enough walls for all
heat runs and cold air returns.
2. It is an existing house.
3. High level of incompetence.
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 3
Here is how one mechanical inspector
described this kind of problematic
installation:
 “Ductwork in an attic is normally the
largest energy problem in the home or
building. The reasons why this practice
should be avoided are comfort complaints,
heating & cooling losses in the attic
ductwork and air handler, higher energy
bills, maintenance difficulties and system
failures.”
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 4
 SYSTEM DESIGN – 1 – Winter
Climate
 In a winter climate, average winter
temperature is approx. 30 degrees and the
average summer temperature is
approximately 90 degrees. Average
temperature in a properly ventilated attic
should be within 20 degrees of the outside
temperature. (50 in the winter – 110 in the
summer)
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 5
 SYSTEM DESIGN – 2 – Winter
Climate
 The average temperature of the air in the
supply ducts in the winter is 120 degrees
and 60 degrees in the summer. This is a
temperature differential between the attic
air and the air inside the ductwork of 70
degrees in the winter and 50 degrees in
the summer.
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 6
To have a correct thermal envelope
would be to have the highest point of
the house be the highest R value. Attic
insulation of 10+ inches (R 30), would
be the best. Also all penetrations into
the attic should be sealed and all
joints in the ductwork and attic air
handler should be sealed. However,
most attics are not built with any
regard to proper sealing and
ventilation or heat and cooling losses
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 7
Most HVAC contractors install cooling
systems in the attic based on the
theory that cold air falls down.
However, the real reason most of them
install them in the attic, is that it is a
lot easier and less expensive to install
the system. There are a number of
problems with this type of installation.
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 8
1. The attic air handler and ductwork system
is normally insulated to R-4 and is installed
above the attic insulation causing minimal
resistance to heat and cooling losses
through the ductwork and air handler.
2. The size and cost of the system will have
to be increased due to the cooling and
heating losses through the thinner attic
ductwork insulation. A larger system will be
required to compensate for this
inefficiency.
3. The systems will have to run longer to
make up for the losses in the attic
ductwork.
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 9
1. There is also inefficiency, due to the fact
that the cooling system is generating
cooling in the hottest part of the house and
the heating system is generating heat in
the coldest part of the house in the winter.
2. On a typical attic installation the
temperature differential from the attic air
handler unit to the supply register on the
other side of the house can be as much as
8 degrees. This amount of cooling loss
cannot be made up with just over sizing the
system.
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 10
1. Additionally, most attic access
doors/hatches are not insulated
which will allow more winter heat to
escape up into the attic.
2. The attic heat in the summer time will
also migrate down into the house
through the ducts and attic access,
making the system have to run
longer to cool the warmer air.
1. This design is very wasteful in the winter.
The house heat will rise up by stack effect
into the supply and return ducts in the
winter, making the 10 inches of attic
insulation mostly ineffective. This air will
flow into attic ducts and air handler to be
lost through the thinner insulation and
leakage points in the ductwork.
2. The heating system will have to recycle on
and off more often to make up for this
stack loss.
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 11
HVAC Attic Ductwork - 12
1. Delivery duct leakage into attics increases
the cost of operation because the system
has to run longer to make up for the
leakage lost to the attic.
2. Return duct leaks allow frigid winter air to
be introduced into the system, increasing
the heating load.
3. Return duct leakage in the summer pulls
very hot humid air into the system,
increasing cooling and dehumidification
loads.

More Related Content

What's hot

HVAC Case Study
HVAC Case StudyHVAC Case Study
HVAC Case StudyNate Lee
 
Air Conditioning case study
Air Conditioning case studyAir Conditioning case study
Air Conditioning case studySona Rawat
 
Hvac Presentation
Hvac PresentationHvac Presentation
Hvac PresentationChoong KW
 
Central steam heating system
Central steam heating systemCentral steam heating system
Central steam heating systemZavain Rehman
 
Chilled beam
Chilled beamChilled beam
Chilled beamAshif AR
 
HVAC System (Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning)
HVAC System (Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning)HVAC System (Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning)
HVAC System (Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning)Maliha Mehr
 
Building Services 1 Report
Building Services 1 ReportBuilding Services 1 Report
Building Services 1 ReportMelvin Lim
 
All About HVAC System - Created by MG Cooling Solutions
All About HVAC System - Created by MG Cooling SolutionsAll About HVAC System - Created by MG Cooling Solutions
All About HVAC System - Created by MG Cooling SolutionsDr Vijay Gehlot
 
BS 2 Hvac air conditioning 4
BS 2 Hvac air conditioning 4BS 2 Hvac air conditioning 4
BS 2 Hvac air conditioning 4Est
 
Low Energy Office Proposal
Low Energy Office Proposal Low Energy Office Proposal
Low Energy Office Proposal robatherton
 
Chapter 7 heating ventilation air conditioning
Chapter 7 heating ventilation air conditioningChapter 7 heating ventilation air conditioning
Chapter 7 heating ventilation air conditioningvenky venkat
 
Air Handling Unit Refurbishment Presentation Envirotec
Air Handling Unit Refurbishment Presentation EnvirotecAir Handling Unit Refurbishment Presentation Envirotec
Air Handling Unit Refurbishment Presentation EnvirotecEnvirotec Ltd
 
Hvac presentation
Hvac presentationHvac presentation
Hvac presentationcswisher
 
Chilled Water Plant Optimization
Chilled Water Plant OptimizationChilled Water Plant Optimization
Chilled Water Plant OptimizationJoePessa
 

What's hot (20)

HVAC Case Study
HVAC Case StudyHVAC Case Study
HVAC Case Study
 
Air Conditioning case study
Air Conditioning case studyAir Conditioning case study
Air Conditioning case study
 
Hvac Presentation
Hvac PresentationHvac Presentation
Hvac Presentation
 
Nbc hvac ppt
Nbc hvac pptNbc hvac ppt
Nbc hvac ppt
 
Central steam heating system
Central steam heating systemCentral steam heating system
Central steam heating system
 
Chilled beam
Chilled beamChilled beam
Chilled beam
 
Airconditioning ppt
Airconditioning pptAirconditioning ppt
Airconditioning ppt
 
Hvac
HvacHvac
Hvac
 
Hvac
Hvac Hvac
Hvac
 
HVAC System (Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning)
HVAC System (Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning)HVAC System (Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning)
HVAC System (Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning)
 
Building Services 1 Report
Building Services 1 ReportBuilding Services 1 Report
Building Services 1 Report
 
Chapter 1 hvac
Chapter 1 hvacChapter 1 hvac
Chapter 1 hvac
 
All About HVAC System - Created by MG Cooling Solutions
All About HVAC System - Created by MG Cooling SolutionsAll About HVAC System - Created by MG Cooling Solutions
All About HVAC System - Created by MG Cooling Solutions
 
BS 2 Hvac air conditioning 4
BS 2 Hvac air conditioning 4BS 2 Hvac air conditioning 4
BS 2 Hvac air conditioning 4
 
Low Energy Office Proposal
Low Energy Office Proposal Low Energy Office Proposal
Low Energy Office Proposal
 
Chapter 7 heating ventilation air conditioning
Chapter 7 heating ventilation air conditioningChapter 7 heating ventilation air conditioning
Chapter 7 heating ventilation air conditioning
 
Air Handling Unit Refurbishment Presentation Envirotec
Air Handling Unit Refurbishment Presentation EnvirotecAir Handling Unit Refurbishment Presentation Envirotec
Air Handling Unit Refurbishment Presentation Envirotec
 
Hvac presentation
Hvac presentationHvac presentation
Hvac presentation
 
Aa hvac 101
Aa hvac 101Aa hvac 101
Aa hvac 101
 
Chilled Water Plant Optimization
Chilled Water Plant OptimizationChilled Water Plant Optimization
Chilled Water Plant Optimization
 

Viewers also liked

Hvac duct construction wasilewski
Hvac duct construction   wasilewskiHvac duct construction   wasilewski
Hvac duct construction wasilewskiIyan Gutierrez
 
Cem 350 hvac distribution systems sizing 10 2016
Cem  350 hvac distribution systems sizing 10 2016Cem  350 hvac distribution systems sizing 10 2016
Cem 350 hvac distribution systems sizing 10 2016miresmaeil
 
Applications of fluid hydraulics
Applications of fluid hydraulicsApplications of fluid hydraulics
Applications of fluid hydraulicssumitlakhera
 
Cooling load calculations
Cooling load calculationsCooling load calculations
Cooling load calculationsWaleed Alyafie
 
B.tech Mechanical with 5.6 years of exp in HVAC Designing
B.tech Mechanical with 5.6 years of exp in HVAC DesigningB.tech Mechanical with 5.6 years of exp in HVAC Designing
B.tech Mechanical with 5.6 years of exp in HVAC DesigningRakesh Alampally
 
Mebs6006 0910 04-load
Mebs6006 0910 04-loadMebs6006 0910 04-load
Mebs6006 0910 04-loadnarazmi
 
Distillation Sequences, Complex Columns and Heat Integration
Distillation Sequences, Complex Columns and Heat IntegrationDistillation Sequences, Complex Columns and Heat Integration
Distillation Sequences, Complex Columns and Heat IntegrationGerard B. Hawkins
 
Bp global experience meoh and dme presentation ndrc presentation and discussi...
Bp global experience meoh and dme presentation ndrc presentation and discussi...Bp global experience meoh and dme presentation ndrc presentation and discussi...
Bp global experience meoh and dme presentation ndrc presentation and discussi...Steve Wittrig
 
Natural Gas to Olefins final.[1]
Natural Gas to Olefins final.[1]Natural Gas to Olefins final.[1]
Natural Gas to Olefins final.[1]Scott Chase
 
air products & chemicals 3 December 2007 Citigroup Non ChemConf
air products & chemicals 3 December 2007 Citigroup Non ChemConfair products & chemicals 3 December 2007 Citigroup Non ChemConf
air products & chemicals 3 December 2007 Citigroup Non ChemConffinance26
 
HVAC Install - Trust But Verify
HVAC Install  - Trust But VerifyHVAC Install  - Trust But Verify
HVAC Install - Trust But VerifyERH West
 
Revamps for Ageing Methanol Plants
Revamps for Ageing Methanol PlantsRevamps for Ageing Methanol Plants
Revamps for Ageing Methanol PlantsGerard B. Hawkins
 
Bp methanol presentation to China ndrc for methanol as fuels 2006
Bp methanol presentation to China ndrc for methanol as fuels  2006Bp methanol presentation to China ndrc for methanol as fuels  2006
Bp methanol presentation to China ndrc for methanol as fuels 2006Steve Wittrig
 

Viewers also liked (20)

Dmmehosp
DmmehospDmmehosp
Dmmehosp
 
Hvac duct construction wasilewski
Hvac duct construction   wasilewskiHvac duct construction   wasilewski
Hvac duct construction wasilewski
 
Flowsheet
FlowsheetFlowsheet
Flowsheet
 
Cem 350 hvac distribution systems sizing 10 2016
Cem  350 hvac distribution systems sizing 10 2016Cem  350 hvac distribution systems sizing 10 2016
Cem 350 hvac distribution systems sizing 10 2016
 
RESNET: HVAC Presentation
RESNET: HVAC PresentationRESNET: HVAC Presentation
RESNET: HVAC Presentation
 
Applications of fluid hydraulics
Applications of fluid hydraulicsApplications of fluid hydraulics
Applications of fluid hydraulics
 
Duct design
Duct designDuct design
Duct design
 
HVAC for Data Centers
HVAC for Data CentersHVAC for Data Centers
HVAC for Data Centers
 
Cooling load calculations
Cooling load calculationsCooling load calculations
Cooling load calculations
 
B.tech Mechanical with 5.6 years of exp in HVAC Designing
B.tech Mechanical with 5.6 years of exp in HVAC DesigningB.tech Mechanical with 5.6 years of exp in HVAC Designing
B.tech Mechanical with 5.6 years of exp in HVAC Designing
 
Mebs6006 0910 04-load
Mebs6006 0910 04-loadMebs6006 0910 04-load
Mebs6006 0910 04-load
 
Duct system
Duct systemDuct system
Duct system
 
Distillation Sequences, Complex Columns and Heat Integration
Distillation Sequences, Complex Columns and Heat IntegrationDistillation Sequences, Complex Columns and Heat Integration
Distillation Sequences, Complex Columns and Heat Integration
 
Bp global experience meoh and dme presentation ndrc presentation and discussi...
Bp global experience meoh and dme presentation ndrc presentation and discussi...Bp global experience meoh and dme presentation ndrc presentation and discussi...
Bp global experience meoh and dme presentation ndrc presentation and discussi...
 
Natural Gas to Olefins final.[1]
Natural Gas to Olefins final.[1]Natural Gas to Olefins final.[1]
Natural Gas to Olefins final.[1]
 
air products & chemicals 3 December 2007 Citigroup Non ChemConf
air products & chemicals 3 December 2007 Citigroup Non ChemConfair products & chemicals 3 December 2007 Citigroup Non ChemConf
air products & chemicals 3 December 2007 Citigroup Non ChemConf
 
HVAC Install - Trust But Verify
HVAC Install  - Trust But VerifyHVAC Install  - Trust But Verify
HVAC Install - Trust But Verify
 
Revamps for Ageing Methanol Plants
Revamps for Ageing Methanol PlantsRevamps for Ageing Methanol Plants
Revamps for Ageing Methanol Plants
 
Ductwork
DuctworkDuctwork
Ductwork
 
Bp methanol presentation to China ndrc for methanol as fuels 2006
Bp methanol presentation to China ndrc for methanol as fuels  2006Bp methanol presentation to China ndrc for methanol as fuels  2006
Bp methanol presentation to China ndrc for methanol as fuels 2006
 

Similar to Cem 350 hvac ductwork ii 11 2015

Heatguard UFH Thermostatic Mixing Valve - Spec Sheet
Heatguard UFH Thermostatic Mixing Valve - Spec SheetHeatguard UFH Thermostatic Mixing Valve - Spec Sheet
Heatguard UFH Thermostatic Mixing Valve - Spec SheetThorne & Derrick UK
 
Chapter 8 duct design and sealing
Chapter 8 duct design and sealingChapter 8 duct design and sealing
Chapter 8 duct design and sealingsahiloct11969
 
alturascontractors.com-What is a Ductless Air Conditioner.pdf
alturascontractors.com-What is a Ductless Air Conditioner.pdfalturascontractors.com-What is a Ductless Air Conditioner.pdf
alturascontractors.com-What is a Ductless Air Conditioner.pdfAhmad Affan
 
Comparison between Systems
Comparison between SystemsComparison between Systems
Comparison between SystemsVictor Ashkenazy
 
DADANCO ACTIVE CHILLED BEAMS
DADANCO ACTIVE CHILLED BEAMSDADANCO ACTIVE CHILLED BEAMS
DADANCO ACTIVE CHILLED BEAMSbostjanpeterman
 
AIR CONDITIONER for Engineering Project.pptx
AIR CONDITIONER for Engineering Project.pptxAIR CONDITIONER for Engineering Project.pptx
AIR CONDITIONER for Engineering Project.pptxARYANGOYAL72
 
Fresh Air Ventilation -Step 2 of The Seven Steps of Building a Synergy Home
Fresh Air Ventilation -Step 2 of The Seven Steps of Building a Synergy HomeFresh Air Ventilation -Step 2 of The Seven Steps of Building a Synergy Home
Fresh Air Ventilation -Step 2 of The Seven Steps of Building a Synergy HomeSynergy Airflow and Ventilation
 
Building technology options
Building technology optionsBuilding technology options
Building technology optionsJeevan Fernando
 
building services
building servicesbuilding services
building servicesszelun
 
ARC-101-BUILDING-UTILITIES-2-PART-5.pptx
ARC-101-BUILDING-UTILITIES-2-PART-5.pptxARC-101-BUILDING-UTILITIES-2-PART-5.pptx
ARC-101-BUILDING-UTILITIES-2-PART-5.pptxKathleenJerellRamos
 
Heatstar Technical Advice paper - 'New 2022 building regulations'
Heatstar Technical Advice paper - 'New 2022 building regulations'Heatstar Technical Advice paper - 'New 2022 building regulations'
Heatstar Technical Advice paper - 'New 2022 building regulations'Heatstar
 
Greenhouse environment control system
Greenhouse environment control systemGreenhouse environment control system
Greenhouse environment control systemShekhar Tidke
 
ventilation & a/c system
ventilation & a/c systemventilation & a/c system
ventilation & a/c systemRosidah Saad
 
Airius Brochure - V2.0 - Low Res
Airius Brochure - V2.0 - Low ResAirius Brochure - V2.0 - Low Res
Airius Brochure - V2.0 - Low ResAlan Baker
 
The Money-Saving Survival Guide: AC, Heating, and Air Quality
The Money-Saving Survival Guide: AC, Heating, and Air QualityThe Money-Saving Survival Guide: AC, Heating, and Air Quality
The Money-Saving Survival Guide: AC, Heating, and Air QualityJohnMooreSvcs
 
building services
building servicesbuilding services
building servicesszelun
 
Building Services - Efficient Energy Ventilation System
Building Services - Efficient Energy Ventilation SystemBuilding Services - Efficient Energy Ventilation System
Building Services - Efficient Energy Ventilation SystemMelvin Lim
 

Similar to Cem 350 hvac ductwork ii 11 2015 (20)

Heatguard UFH Thermostatic Mixing Valve - Spec Sheet
Heatguard UFH Thermostatic Mixing Valve - Spec SheetHeatguard UFH Thermostatic Mixing Valve - Spec Sheet
Heatguard UFH Thermostatic Mixing Valve - Spec Sheet
 
Chapter 8 duct design and sealing
Chapter 8 duct design and sealingChapter 8 duct design and sealing
Chapter 8 duct design and sealing
 
alturascontractors.com-What is a Ductless Air Conditioner.pdf
alturascontractors.com-What is a Ductless Air Conditioner.pdfalturascontractors.com-What is a Ductless Air Conditioner.pdf
alturascontractors.com-What is a Ductless Air Conditioner.pdf
 
Comparison between Systems
Comparison between SystemsComparison between Systems
Comparison between Systems
 
DADANCO ACTIVE CHILLED BEAMS
DADANCO ACTIVE CHILLED BEAMSDADANCO ACTIVE CHILLED BEAMS
DADANCO ACTIVE CHILLED BEAMS
 
AIR CONDITIONER for Engineering Project.pptx
AIR CONDITIONER for Engineering Project.pptxAIR CONDITIONER for Engineering Project.pptx
AIR CONDITIONER for Engineering Project.pptx
 
Fresh Air Ventilation -Step 2 of The Seven Steps of Building a Synergy Home
Fresh Air Ventilation -Step 2 of The Seven Steps of Building a Synergy HomeFresh Air Ventilation -Step 2 of The Seven Steps of Building a Synergy Home
Fresh Air Ventilation -Step 2 of The Seven Steps of Building a Synergy Home
 
Building technology options
Building technology optionsBuilding technology options
Building technology options
 
building services
building servicesbuilding services
building services
 
ARC-101-BUILDING-UTILITIES-2-PART-5.pptx
ARC-101-BUILDING-UTILITIES-2-PART-5.pptxARC-101-BUILDING-UTILITIES-2-PART-5.pptx
ARC-101-BUILDING-UTILITIES-2-PART-5.pptx
 
HVAC
HVACHVAC
HVAC
 
Heatstar Technical Advice paper - 'New 2022 building regulations'
Heatstar Technical Advice paper - 'New 2022 building regulations'Heatstar Technical Advice paper - 'New 2022 building regulations'
Heatstar Technical Advice paper - 'New 2022 building regulations'
 
Module (1.3) types of ac units-hvac-apex
Module (1.3) types of ac units-hvac-apexModule (1.3) types of ac units-hvac-apex
Module (1.3) types of ac units-hvac-apex
 
Greenhouse environment control system
Greenhouse environment control systemGreenhouse environment control system
Greenhouse environment control system
 
ventilation & a/c system
ventilation & a/c systemventilation & a/c system
ventilation & a/c system
 
Airius Brochure - V2.0 - Low Res
Airius Brochure - V2.0 - Low ResAirius Brochure - V2.0 - Low Res
Airius Brochure - V2.0 - Low Res
 
The Money-Saving Survival Guide: AC, Heating, and Air Quality
The Money-Saving Survival Guide: AC, Heating, and Air QualityThe Money-Saving Survival Guide: AC, Heating, and Air Quality
The Money-Saving Survival Guide: AC, Heating, and Air Quality
 
Air conditioning system
Air conditioning system Air conditioning system
Air conditioning system
 
building services
building servicesbuilding services
building services
 
Building Services - Efficient Energy Ventilation System
Building Services - Efficient Energy Ventilation SystemBuilding Services - Efficient Energy Ventilation System
Building Services - Efficient Energy Ventilation System
 

More from miresmaeil

Cem 350 manufactured home issues
Cem 350 manufactured home issuesCem 350 manufactured home issues
Cem 350 manufactured home issuesmiresmaeil
 
Cem 350 hvac air side systems 10-2016
Cem 350 hvac air side systems 10-2016Cem 350 hvac air side systems 10-2016
Cem 350 hvac air side systems 10-2016miresmaeil
 
Cem 350 hud residential energy conservation 9 2016
Cem 350 hud residential energy conservation 9 2016Cem 350 hud residential energy conservation 9 2016
Cem 350 hud residential energy conservation 9 2016miresmaeil
 
Cem 350 hotel design construction fall 2016
Cem 350 hotel design construction fall 2016Cem 350 hotel design construction fall 2016
Cem 350 hotel design construction fall 2016miresmaeil
 
Cem 350 have you hugged a hummer today
Cem 350 have you hugged a hummer todayCem 350 have you hugged a hummer today
Cem 350 have you hugged a hummer todaymiresmaeil
 
Cem 350 gilbane corp mep retrofit systems overview 4 2011
Cem 350 gilbane corp mep retrofit systems overview  4 2011Cem 350 gilbane corp mep retrofit systems overview  4 2011
Cem 350 gilbane corp mep retrofit systems overview 4 2011miresmaeil
 
Cem 350 control systems 9 2016
Cem 350 control systems 9 2016Cem 350 control systems 9 2016
Cem 350 control systems 9 2016miresmaeil
 
Cem 250 cofferdams
Cem 250 cofferdamsCem 250 cofferdams
Cem 250 cofferdamsmiresmaeil
 

More from miresmaeil (8)

Cem 350 manufactured home issues
Cem 350 manufactured home issuesCem 350 manufactured home issues
Cem 350 manufactured home issues
 
Cem 350 hvac air side systems 10-2016
Cem 350 hvac air side systems 10-2016Cem 350 hvac air side systems 10-2016
Cem 350 hvac air side systems 10-2016
 
Cem 350 hud residential energy conservation 9 2016
Cem 350 hud residential energy conservation 9 2016Cem 350 hud residential energy conservation 9 2016
Cem 350 hud residential energy conservation 9 2016
 
Cem 350 hotel design construction fall 2016
Cem 350 hotel design construction fall 2016Cem 350 hotel design construction fall 2016
Cem 350 hotel design construction fall 2016
 
Cem 350 have you hugged a hummer today
Cem 350 have you hugged a hummer todayCem 350 have you hugged a hummer today
Cem 350 have you hugged a hummer today
 
Cem 350 gilbane corp mep retrofit systems overview 4 2011
Cem 350 gilbane corp mep retrofit systems overview  4 2011Cem 350 gilbane corp mep retrofit systems overview  4 2011
Cem 350 gilbane corp mep retrofit systems overview 4 2011
 
Cem 350 control systems 9 2016
Cem 350 control systems 9 2016Cem 350 control systems 9 2016
Cem 350 control systems 9 2016
 
Cem 250 cofferdams
Cem 250 cofferdamsCem 250 cofferdams
Cem 250 cofferdams
 

Recently uploaded

Call Girls Delhi {Jodhpur} 9711199012 high profile service
Call Girls Delhi {Jodhpur} 9711199012 high profile serviceCall Girls Delhi {Jodhpur} 9711199012 high profile service
Call Girls Delhi {Jodhpur} 9711199012 high profile servicerehmti665
 
Software Development Life Cycle By Team Orange (Dept. of Pharmacy)
Software Development Life Cycle By  Team Orange (Dept. of Pharmacy)Software Development Life Cycle By  Team Orange (Dept. of Pharmacy)
Software Development Life Cycle By Team Orange (Dept. of Pharmacy)Suman Mia
 
The Most Attractive Pune Call Girls Budhwar Peth 8250192130 Will You Miss Thi...
The Most Attractive Pune Call Girls Budhwar Peth 8250192130 Will You Miss Thi...The Most Attractive Pune Call Girls Budhwar Peth 8250192130 Will You Miss Thi...
The Most Attractive Pune Call Girls Budhwar Peth 8250192130 Will You Miss Thi...ranjana rawat
 
HARMONY IN THE NATURE AND EXISTENCE - Unit-IV
HARMONY IN THE NATURE AND EXISTENCE - Unit-IVHARMONY IN THE NATURE AND EXISTENCE - Unit-IV
HARMONY IN THE NATURE AND EXISTENCE - Unit-IVRajaP95
 
Call Girls in Nagpur Suman Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur Escorts
Call Girls in Nagpur Suman Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur EscortsCall Girls in Nagpur Suman Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur Escorts
Call Girls in Nagpur Suman Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur EscortsCall Girls in Nagpur High Profile
 
Processing & Properties of Floor and Wall Tiles.pptx
Processing & Properties of Floor and Wall Tiles.pptxProcessing & Properties of Floor and Wall Tiles.pptx
Processing & Properties of Floor and Wall Tiles.pptxpranjaldaimarysona
 
(ANVI) Koregaon Park Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...
(ANVI) Koregaon Park Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...(ANVI) Koregaon Park Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...
(ANVI) Koregaon Park Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...ranjana rawat
 
Sheet Pile Wall Design and Construction: A Practical Guide for Civil Engineer...
Sheet Pile Wall Design and Construction: A Practical Guide for Civil Engineer...Sheet Pile Wall Design and Construction: A Practical Guide for Civil Engineer...
Sheet Pile Wall Design and Construction: A Practical Guide for Civil Engineer...Dr.Costas Sachpazis
 
the ladakh protest in leh ladakh 2024 sonam wangchuk.pptx
the ladakh protest in leh ladakh 2024 sonam wangchuk.pptxthe ladakh protest in leh ladakh 2024 sonam wangchuk.pptx
the ladakh protest in leh ladakh 2024 sonam wangchuk.pptxhumanexperienceaaa
 
Structural Analysis and Design of Foundations: A Comprehensive Handbook for S...
Structural Analysis and Design of Foundations: A Comprehensive Handbook for S...Structural Analysis and Design of Foundations: A Comprehensive Handbook for S...
Structural Analysis and Design of Foundations: A Comprehensive Handbook for S...Dr.Costas Sachpazis
 
High Profile Call Girls Nagpur Meera Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur Escorts
High Profile Call Girls Nagpur Meera Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur EscortsHigh Profile Call Girls Nagpur Meera Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur Escorts
High Profile Call Girls Nagpur Meera Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur EscortsCall Girls in Nagpur High Profile
 
(RIA) Call Girls Bhosari ( 7001035870 ) HI-Fi Pune Escorts Service
(RIA) Call Girls Bhosari ( 7001035870 ) HI-Fi Pune Escorts Service(RIA) Call Girls Bhosari ( 7001035870 ) HI-Fi Pune Escorts Service
(RIA) Call Girls Bhosari ( 7001035870 ) HI-Fi Pune Escorts Serviceranjana rawat
 
Decoding Kotlin - Your guide to solving the mysterious in Kotlin.pptx
Decoding Kotlin - Your guide to solving the mysterious in Kotlin.pptxDecoding Kotlin - Your guide to solving the mysterious in Kotlin.pptx
Decoding Kotlin - Your guide to solving the mysterious in Kotlin.pptxJoão Esperancinha
 
Introduction to Multiple Access Protocol.pptx
Introduction to Multiple Access Protocol.pptxIntroduction to Multiple Access Protocol.pptx
Introduction to Multiple Access Protocol.pptxupamatechverse
 
Introduction and different types of Ethernet.pptx
Introduction and different types of Ethernet.pptxIntroduction and different types of Ethernet.pptx
Introduction and different types of Ethernet.pptxupamatechverse
 
Coefficient of Thermal Expansion and their Importance.pptx
Coefficient of Thermal Expansion and their Importance.pptxCoefficient of Thermal Expansion and their Importance.pptx
Coefficient of Thermal Expansion and their Importance.pptxAsutosh Ranjan
 
(SHREYA) Chakan Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pune Esc...
(SHREYA) Chakan Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pune Esc...(SHREYA) Chakan Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pune Esc...
(SHREYA) Chakan Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pune Esc...ranjana rawat
 
(PRIYA) Rajgurunagar Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...
(PRIYA) Rajgurunagar Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...(PRIYA) Rajgurunagar Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...
(PRIYA) Rajgurunagar Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...ranjana rawat
 

Recently uploaded (20)

Call Girls Delhi {Jodhpur} 9711199012 high profile service
Call Girls Delhi {Jodhpur} 9711199012 high profile serviceCall Girls Delhi {Jodhpur} 9711199012 high profile service
Call Girls Delhi {Jodhpur} 9711199012 high profile service
 
Software Development Life Cycle By Team Orange (Dept. of Pharmacy)
Software Development Life Cycle By  Team Orange (Dept. of Pharmacy)Software Development Life Cycle By  Team Orange (Dept. of Pharmacy)
Software Development Life Cycle By Team Orange (Dept. of Pharmacy)
 
The Most Attractive Pune Call Girls Budhwar Peth 8250192130 Will You Miss Thi...
The Most Attractive Pune Call Girls Budhwar Peth 8250192130 Will You Miss Thi...The Most Attractive Pune Call Girls Budhwar Peth 8250192130 Will You Miss Thi...
The Most Attractive Pune Call Girls Budhwar Peth 8250192130 Will You Miss Thi...
 
Roadmap to Membership of RICS - Pathways and Routes
Roadmap to Membership of RICS - Pathways and RoutesRoadmap to Membership of RICS - Pathways and Routes
Roadmap to Membership of RICS - Pathways and Routes
 
HARMONY IN THE NATURE AND EXISTENCE - Unit-IV
HARMONY IN THE NATURE AND EXISTENCE - Unit-IVHARMONY IN THE NATURE AND EXISTENCE - Unit-IV
HARMONY IN THE NATURE AND EXISTENCE - Unit-IV
 
Call Girls in Nagpur Suman Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur Escorts
Call Girls in Nagpur Suman Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur EscortsCall Girls in Nagpur Suman Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur Escorts
Call Girls in Nagpur Suman Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur Escorts
 
Processing & Properties of Floor and Wall Tiles.pptx
Processing & Properties of Floor and Wall Tiles.pptxProcessing & Properties of Floor and Wall Tiles.pptx
Processing & Properties of Floor and Wall Tiles.pptx
 
(ANVI) Koregaon Park Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...
(ANVI) Koregaon Park Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...(ANVI) Koregaon Park Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...
(ANVI) Koregaon Park Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...
 
Sheet Pile Wall Design and Construction: A Practical Guide for Civil Engineer...
Sheet Pile Wall Design and Construction: A Practical Guide for Civil Engineer...Sheet Pile Wall Design and Construction: A Practical Guide for Civil Engineer...
Sheet Pile Wall Design and Construction: A Practical Guide for Civil Engineer...
 
the ladakh protest in leh ladakh 2024 sonam wangchuk.pptx
the ladakh protest in leh ladakh 2024 sonam wangchuk.pptxthe ladakh protest in leh ladakh 2024 sonam wangchuk.pptx
the ladakh protest in leh ladakh 2024 sonam wangchuk.pptx
 
Structural Analysis and Design of Foundations: A Comprehensive Handbook for S...
Structural Analysis and Design of Foundations: A Comprehensive Handbook for S...Structural Analysis and Design of Foundations: A Comprehensive Handbook for S...
Structural Analysis and Design of Foundations: A Comprehensive Handbook for S...
 
High Profile Call Girls Nagpur Meera Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur Escorts
High Profile Call Girls Nagpur Meera Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur EscortsHigh Profile Call Girls Nagpur Meera Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur Escorts
High Profile Call Girls Nagpur Meera Call 7001035870 Meet With Nagpur Escorts
 
(RIA) Call Girls Bhosari ( 7001035870 ) HI-Fi Pune Escorts Service
(RIA) Call Girls Bhosari ( 7001035870 ) HI-Fi Pune Escorts Service(RIA) Call Girls Bhosari ( 7001035870 ) HI-Fi Pune Escorts Service
(RIA) Call Girls Bhosari ( 7001035870 ) HI-Fi Pune Escorts Service
 
Decoding Kotlin - Your guide to solving the mysterious in Kotlin.pptx
Decoding Kotlin - Your guide to solving the mysterious in Kotlin.pptxDecoding Kotlin - Your guide to solving the mysterious in Kotlin.pptx
Decoding Kotlin - Your guide to solving the mysterious in Kotlin.pptx
 
Introduction to Multiple Access Protocol.pptx
Introduction to Multiple Access Protocol.pptxIntroduction to Multiple Access Protocol.pptx
Introduction to Multiple Access Protocol.pptx
 
Introduction and different types of Ethernet.pptx
Introduction and different types of Ethernet.pptxIntroduction and different types of Ethernet.pptx
Introduction and different types of Ethernet.pptx
 
Call Us -/9953056974- Call Girls In Vikaspuri-/- Delhi NCR
Call Us -/9953056974- Call Girls In Vikaspuri-/- Delhi NCRCall Us -/9953056974- Call Girls In Vikaspuri-/- Delhi NCR
Call Us -/9953056974- Call Girls In Vikaspuri-/- Delhi NCR
 
Coefficient of Thermal Expansion and their Importance.pptx
Coefficient of Thermal Expansion and their Importance.pptxCoefficient of Thermal Expansion and their Importance.pptx
Coefficient of Thermal Expansion and their Importance.pptx
 
(SHREYA) Chakan Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pune Esc...
(SHREYA) Chakan Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pune Esc...(SHREYA) Chakan Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pune Esc...
(SHREYA) Chakan Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pune Esc...
 
(PRIYA) Rajgurunagar Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...
(PRIYA) Rajgurunagar Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...(PRIYA) Rajgurunagar Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...
(PRIYA) Rajgurunagar Call Girls Just Call 7001035870 [ Cash on Delivery ] Pun...
 

Cem 350 hvac ductwork ii 11 2015

  • 1. HVAC Ductwork Issues II CEM 350 Facility Systems Design Neil Opfer Instructor UNLV CEM Program
  • 2.
  • 3.
  • 4.
  • 5.
  • 6.
  • 7.
  • 8.
  • 9.
  • 10. Monthly Heating Costs vs. HVAC Duct Leakage Percent Monthly Cooling/ Heating Costs 10% 15% 20% $125 $12.50 $18.75 $25.00 $175 $17.50 $26.25 $35.00 $225 $22.50 $33.75 $45.00 $275 $27.50 $41.25 $55.00 $325 $32.50 $48.75 $65.00
  • 11.
  • 12. HVAC Ductwork Problems The owner converted the original duct work system to make it run over the attic to distribute air. It’s nothing wrong to run air duct over attic, but difficult to do it right. When air ducts penetrate interior (warm - room temperature) and attic (cold - exterior temperature), condensation is very easy cause problem in ductwork and ceiling penetrations, especially in winter cold climate days. To eliminate the condensation problem, it has to rely on the insulation around the air duct (air tight seal to ductwork and the vertical penetration between interior and attic). However, an air tight seal is very difficult to achieve or overlooked during construction.
  • 13.
  • 14.
  • 15.
  • 16.
  • 17.
  • 18.
  • 19.
  • 20.
  • 21.
  • 22.
  • 23.
  • 24.
  • 25.
  • 26.
  • 27.
  • 28.
  • 29.
  • 30.
  • 31.
  • 32.
  • 33.
  • 34.
  • 35.
  • 36.
  • 37.
  • 38.
  • 39.
  • 40.
  • 41.
  • 42.
  • 43.
  • 44.
  • 45.
  • 46.
  • 47.
  • 48.
  • 49.
  • 50.
  • 51.
  • 52.
  • 53.
  • 54.
  • 55.
  • 56.
  • 57. HVAC Maintenance Issues - 1 MAINTENANCE DIFFICULTIES: - 1  In many attics the air handler system is installed in the corner, sometimes behind the supply and return ductwork. The only way to get to the filter for regular cleaning or replacement (monthly) is to climb over the ductwork, sometimes damaging the ducts.
  • 58. HVAC Maintenance Issues - 2  Most homeowners don’t even go into the attic to change the filter, even if the air handler is easy to access. Because of this hard to access filter, most filters are not changed on a regular basis, causing the filter and cooling coil to become dirty and clogged, reducing the efficiency and air circulation of the already inefficient system. The house will have increased operational costs and the furthest rooms from the air handler will not be cooled or heated efficiently or adequately.
  • 59. HVAC Maintenance Issues - 3  SOLUTIONS - 1 1.Keep the air handler unit and ductwork inside the thermal envelope. 2.Installing the air handler in a first or second floor closet with proper insulation and access for service. 3.Install a proper ductwork distribution system. 4.Install the full supply ductwork system below the upper floor ceiling, boxed into a soffit that would run down the center of the hallway of the house.
  • 60. HVAC Maintenance Issues - 4  SOLUTIONS - 2 1. All ductwork joints should be sealed. 2. All attic ductwork should be sealed and double insulated to reduce heat and cooling losses into the attic. 3. An air handler that must be installed in the attic should be installed inside an attic room that has insulated stud walls and ceiling, as well as sheathing on the exterior of the room. 4. Also, install an exterior grade door for access and to maintain a proper thermal envelope
  • 61. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 1 Ductwork in the attic runs from two sources: 1. From the furnace installed anywhere in the house or in the attic. 2. From the air handler installed in the house or in the attic.
  • 62. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 2 There are several reasons for running ductwork in the attic: 1. House is very big and spacious and there not enough walls for all heat runs and cold air returns. 2. It is an existing house. 3. High level of incompetence.
  • 63. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 3 Here is how one mechanical inspector described this kind of problematic installation:  “Ductwork in an attic is normally the largest energy problem in the home or building. The reasons why this practice should be avoided are comfort complaints, heating & cooling losses in the attic ductwork and air handler, higher energy bills, maintenance difficulties and system failures.”
  • 64. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 4  SYSTEM DESIGN – 1 – Winter Climate  In a winter climate, average winter temperature is approx. 30 degrees and the average summer temperature is approximately 90 degrees. Average temperature in a properly ventilated attic should be within 20 degrees of the outside temperature. (50 in the winter – 110 in the summer)
  • 65. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 5  SYSTEM DESIGN – 2 – Winter Climate  The average temperature of the air in the supply ducts in the winter is 120 degrees and 60 degrees in the summer. This is a temperature differential between the attic air and the air inside the ductwork of 70 degrees in the winter and 50 degrees in the summer.
  • 66. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 6 To have a correct thermal envelope would be to have the highest point of the house be the highest R value. Attic insulation of 10+ inches (R 30), would be the best. Also all penetrations into the attic should be sealed and all joints in the ductwork and attic air handler should be sealed. However, most attics are not built with any regard to proper sealing and ventilation or heat and cooling losses
  • 67. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 7 Most HVAC contractors install cooling systems in the attic based on the theory that cold air falls down. However, the real reason most of them install them in the attic, is that it is a lot easier and less expensive to install the system. There are a number of problems with this type of installation.
  • 68. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 8 1. The attic air handler and ductwork system is normally insulated to R-4 and is installed above the attic insulation causing minimal resistance to heat and cooling losses through the ductwork and air handler. 2. The size and cost of the system will have to be increased due to the cooling and heating losses through the thinner attic ductwork insulation. A larger system will be required to compensate for this inefficiency. 3. The systems will have to run longer to make up for the losses in the attic ductwork.
  • 69. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 9 1. There is also inefficiency, due to the fact that the cooling system is generating cooling in the hottest part of the house and the heating system is generating heat in the coldest part of the house in the winter. 2. On a typical attic installation the temperature differential from the attic air handler unit to the supply register on the other side of the house can be as much as 8 degrees. This amount of cooling loss cannot be made up with just over sizing the system.
  • 70. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 10 1. Additionally, most attic access doors/hatches are not insulated which will allow more winter heat to escape up into the attic. 2. The attic heat in the summer time will also migrate down into the house through the ducts and attic access, making the system have to run longer to cool the warmer air.
  • 71. 1. This design is very wasteful in the winter. The house heat will rise up by stack effect into the supply and return ducts in the winter, making the 10 inches of attic insulation mostly ineffective. This air will flow into attic ducts and air handler to be lost through the thinner insulation and leakage points in the ductwork. 2. The heating system will have to recycle on and off more often to make up for this stack loss. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 11
  • 72. HVAC Attic Ductwork - 12 1. Delivery duct leakage into attics increases the cost of operation because the system has to run longer to make up for the leakage lost to the attic. 2. Return duct leaks allow frigid winter air to be introduced into the system, increasing the heating load. 3. Return duct leakage in the summer pulls very hot humid air into the system, increasing cooling and dehumidification loads.