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A Systematic Approach to
Managing Relationship & Links
Who dis?
• Co-Founder of Kerboo (Was LinkRisk)
• Chequered past
* Hat tip Carly Wood / Nichola Stott via FB
Paul Madden Kelvin Newman Paddy Moogan
What the hell are we all doing
anyway?
The current position
Content marketing
PR
More traditional SEO
Links are the signal
Its all about the people
Outreach
It’s a false economy
And we are addicted to it
Create the content
outreach and pitch
Create the content
and pray?
We all need to up our game
in outreach and understand
the psychology of action
So how should we think about
outreach and the people we interact
with online?
Too much marketing is: -
Hey FNAME,
We have made something cool,
you’re gonna love it so much,
gimme linkage
Thanks
Random Dude
“There is NO action without
reaction”
Reaction is prompted by
emotion
What makes a site owner or editor
or author or influencer act?
We have to know what our
target will respond to
Cold hard money
Friendship
Do they have a need we
can fulfill?
Link building is
RELATIONSHIPS
Any outreach is
RELATIONSHIPS
Sales is
RELATIONSHIPS
PR is
RELATIONSHIPS
Content Marketing is
RELATIONSHIPS
RELATIONSHIPS
DEFINE
SUCCESS
Think about content
promotion and coverage
The aim is to build a network of
influencers in niches that can
benefit all future projects
Pick your most common broad
niches
The Pareto Principle
applies as it always has
and always will
Its this top 20% of sites
and people that make 80%
of the difference
Why ?
Why market what you have with
people you already know?
The risk is far far lower
Some signals count
for us
Some signals count
against us
Marketing and by extension SEO
succeeds today more than ever as a
result of leveraging those people
you know
So how do we define ‘Know’?
Make a connection
Once we have a connection we
are free to ask questions
Once we can ask we can
understand the motivations
And once we understand
what motivates we can
use emotional triggers to
illicit action
Trust is something you have to
earn
Give rather than take
Start from a position of
trying to help them in
some way
And you’ll stumble onto the
emotional trigger naturally
Finding the right
contacts
Find content and work upwards
from there
Excellent interface (Slightly
limited inventory)
100 Million websites searchable
using 50 filters
Hunt down ANY deck by
Paddy Moogan
Stacey MacNaught
First contact
Emails emails.. And more emails
• Email is cheap easy
• Its simple to hide
behind the inbox
• Its harder to make a
connection
• You’re often not in
control of their
attention span
Social interaction
• Hard to initiate
• It’s a long game
• Usually better to
augment an existing
relationship
https://www.submarinecrm.com
Keep EVERY communication
You will need a CRM package
Notable CRM packages
• https://highrisehq.com/
• https://www.pipedrive.com/
• https://www.submarinecrm.com/
• https://kerboo.com/
• http://www.sugarcrm.com/uk
• http://batchbook.com/
Think like a salesperson
Every conversation
brings you closer to the
goal
The best way to have
conversations isn’t always email
Fear is the differentiator
Pick up the phone
Phone is scary… but
when done well phone
beats almost every
other method
Learn how to use the
phone..
Learn proper conversation
direction
http://www.slideshare.net/spline/questioning-skills-training-materials
Two ears, one mouth
Set a goal for each
communication
“I’ve really enjoyed some
of the stuff you’ve
published lately and I’m
just curious on how you
decide what to publish and
when”
“Can you tell me a little
more about how you plan
what to cover”
“If I understand you
correctly you say that each
month you pick X themes to
write about and then Y
happens, is that correct?”
The question cycle
• Open question
• Listen
• Ask closed question to qualify
• Propose suggested help
• Listen for objection
• Open question to work round objection
Open question
• A question you cant answer Yes or No to
• Can you tell me a little about…
• In interested in how you do x…
• What are the main things you consider when
choosing y…
Closed question
• Normally a Yes No Answer
• Used to qualify…
• If I hear you correctly you always look for X, is
that correct?
• So its only Y that you consider?
Proposal of solution
• The WMT method: -
• Because you do X
We do Y
Which Means That you sort X
Objection handling 101
People say “no”
because
• We haven’t understood the
motivations
• We haven’t explained the value
• We haven’t ensured that value
meets their need
• For ALL of the above you need
to…
Go round our objection
loop again
“OK so I may have misunderstood how you do that
part of the research for your articles, is it not
correct that you spend X hours looking for
resources to support the piece?”
“Umm well yes we do we just don’t take pieces
from external people”
“OK so if I understand that correctly if we were
to share the research that we had done for the
similar piece that we did you would find some
value in that”
“Is that correct?”
Close….
However….
Probably just gonna
stick with the emailing
ok….
Cold email is less cold if
they’re aware of you
Cold email is less cold
when it comes from a
contact form
Sent from my iPhone
Very brief often gets a response
• Look at the emails you respond to and why …
• Something in the first line or subject catches
your eye
• 3 Lines of text and then close…
Short looks personal
• Sacrifice detail to illicit response..
• Just do enough to get attention
• Things like typical typing errors and ‘sent from
my iPhone’ make it look like a spur of the
moment email rather than mass spam
And by common typing errors I mean..
Hi John,
Can you let me know if you’re the right
person to takl to about X ?
Just got something I think might be of
interest.
Thanks
Paul
Sent from my iPhone
Not… Poor grammar
Hi John,
Are you the person who looks
after there content?
Making them know you exist
• Share their stuff
• Comment on their content
• Write about them
To get the big fish you’ll have to work
your way upstream
• Write about them
elsewhere
• Include them in other
content
• Slowly demonstrate value
http://charlieapp.com
https://www.crystalknows.com
Tools are fine but
genuinely showing
interest isn’t easy to
fake
Showing that you
remember them and
therefore value them is
actually key
That’s where a good
CRM helps you
Process
• Define what broad niches you want influencers
in
• Find the people and the people connected to
those people
• Make a connection
• Foster that relationship over time
• Become a resource for them
• Understand their triggers and use that to your
advantage
Takeaways
Build inventory of
relationships before the
project
Placement is not the
end of the relationship
Aim to foster such a
relationship that they
come to you
Unless you go the extra
mile someone else will
beat you
Thanks !
Paul@kerboo.com
@pauldavidmadden
@kerboo
Kerboo.com

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