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Beyond Mainstream
   Social Media
   Forums and Listservs
          with
     Dmitry Shesterin
Intro
 Pragmatic:
   Management Consultant
   Startup Advisor for Seed & Round A
   VP, Product Management
   VP, Marketing
   Large Capital Project Sales Manager

 Academic
   Executive MBA
   BA, Intercultural Communications

 Likes
   Theory of pricing
   Being a geek


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Beyond Mainstream
Mainstream
• Facebook
• Twitter
• YouTube
• Google+                                       Often Overlooked
• LinkedIn                                      • Forums
• Pinterest etc                                 • Listservs




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Forums

                                                Why Bother?




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Why Forums
• Established communities fused by common interest
     • Your functionally pre-determined ideal target persona
• Well indexed by search engines
     • Boost your domain authority with inbound links
• Great for:
     •   Monitor customer and prospect sentiment
     •   Competitive intelligence
     •   Recruit beta participants
     •   Collect customer feedback
     •   Announce events of significance
     •   Build your email marketing list
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Tech Forums In Numbers*
                                                                                     Alexa           Alexa         Google
        Forum               Threads             Posts          Members
                                                                                    Reach            Links         Results
techsupportforum.com      650,489           4,018,373             948,905            6,088           2,104           1,890K
forums.techguy.org      1,015,367           8,462,026             686,738            3,008              984          2,410K
bleepingcomputer.com                        2,918,348             590,304            5,410           5,587           1,150K
forums.whirlpool.net.au 1,860,525          38,082,213             556,340            1,547           1,921          13,200K
forums.techarena.in       204,908           1,074,338             457,737           50,588           1,064             615K
geekstogo.com                               2,239,680             372,353           19,177           1,888             465K
forums.anandtech.com 2,298,094             34,776,027             324,133            2,279              688          5,900K
neowin.net                                 10,835,034             306,950            4,204           9,749           6,340K
cybertechhelp.com         203,587           1,234,494             129,409          150,775              493            133K
techspot.com              174,368           1,239,950             124,584            3,589           7,373             503K
                                                        *Data collected on March 26, 2013 via respective sites and big-boards.com




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Forum Bonus Numbers:)
• OS Platform Specific
                                                                     Alexa    Alexa    Google
                             Threads            Posts    Members
                                                                     Reach    Links    Results
ubuntuforums.org            1,941,211      11,938,966   1,797,940     1,820   14,704      1,150K
macrumors.com               1,469,635      16,496,393      802,611      762    2,785      5,640K
social.msdn.microsoft.com   1,413,482       6,595,909                    22    2,566        876K



• Mobile Platforms
                                                                     Alexa    Alexa    Google
                             Threads            Posts    Members
                                                                     Reach    Links    Results
forums.crackberry.com        659,227        7,814,436   3,760,140     3,245      598      9,350K
androidforums.com            588,068        5,522,481   1,420,064     2,221    5,756      4,280K


• Computer Security Hubs
                                                                     Alexa    Alexa    Google
                             Threads            Posts    Members
                                                                     Reach    Links    Results
wilderssecurity.com          208,187        1,967,940     127,383    22,449    1,599        502K
dslreports.com                             18,162,983      66,131     3,995    7,712      7,110K




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Non-English Tech Forums
Germany                                         Russia
     •   ComputerBase                             •   RU Board
     •   Forum de Luxx                            •   IXBT BBS
     •   gulli:board                              •   SysAdmins.ru
     •   Giga.de                                  •   Habrahabr.ru
China                                           Brazil
     • IM286                                       • Forum GDH
     • Et8                                         • Techzone
     • Cfan                                        • Baboo Forum
                                                   • Forum PCs
France
     • Hardware.fr
     • Presence PC
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Forum Etiquette
•   Complete you profile and indicate that you are a vendor
•   Introduce yourself and state your objective
•   Be quick with responses and authentic in messaging
•   Don’t pitch
•   Don’t bash competition
•   Always stay positive
•   Use your signature wisely, include a link to your site
•   Use Personal Messaging to remediate problems
•   Hint that acknowledgement of resolution is welcome but not required
•   Stay away from flame wars
•   Keep someone responsible for monitoring your forum landscape


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Marketing In A Forum
•   Develop relationships with frequent posters and moderators
•   Feed breaking news before mainstream PR
•   Crowd-source tier 1 support via avid fans and users
•   Establish dedicated sub-forums devoted to your products
•   Optimize SEO in all your responses and threads
•   Always link back to your site for more or technical info




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ListServs

                                                Why Bother?




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What Is Listserv?
• ListServ is an electronic theme-specific mailing list
• Once subscribed and added to the list, you can email that
  list and receive responses
• Yes, it is still well and alive:) Still actively used by:
     • Librarians
     • Technology Coordinators in public education (K2-20)
     • Geeks




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Lurking Is For Vendors
• Social Listening for vendors at its best
   • Open posts to a list by vendors are thrown upon
• Identify and monitor all listservs that are used by your target
  personas
• Listserv users know that smart vendors are listening
• If problems are reported or help requests are posted, reach out
  directly for immediate resolution. Put your best people on it.
• Hint that acknowledgement of resolution is welcome but not required
• Keep someone responsible for monitoring all listservs.




                                                Lurking cat by ~FloatingUkuku
                                                on deviantART


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Why ListServ
• Great lead generation tool. Majority of posts include
  signatures with direct extensions and titles.
• Unfiltered and unbiased customer-to-customer feedback
• Competitive intelligence
• Save on mystery shoppers, list subscribers identify
  operational and product problems early
• Rich source of feature ideas (evaluate carefully)
• Identify and put your Mavens to work
  (Gladwell’s Tipping Point)



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Research Example
• Evaluated one year of content from three listservs
• 80,000+ messages from 3,500+ subscribers
• Identified 122 listserv mavens
     • 51 affluent posters are existing and loyal customers!
     • 60 posters are customers of a competitor!
     • 11 posters are joint customers!
• Based on received data promotional activities, content
  generation, collateral production and product positioning
  were adjusted.



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Good Luck!


  Email d.shesterin@gmail.com for template
   files and frameworks
  Connect on LinkedIn at linkd.in/shesterin
  Follow me @dscheste



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Beyond mainstream social media with Dmitry Shesterin

  • 1. Beyond Mainstream Social Media Forums and Listservs with Dmitry Shesterin
  • 2. Intro Pragmatic:  Management Consultant  Startup Advisor for Seed & Round A  VP, Product Management  VP, Marketing  Large Capital Project Sales Manager Academic  Executive MBA  BA, Intercultural Communications Likes  Theory of pricing  Being a geek © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 2
  • 3. Beyond Mainstream Mainstream • Facebook • Twitter • YouTube • Google+ Often Overlooked • LinkedIn • Forums • Pinterest etc • Listservs © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 3
  • 4. Forums Why Bother? © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 4
  • 5. Why Forums • Established communities fused by common interest • Your functionally pre-determined ideal target persona • Well indexed by search engines • Boost your domain authority with inbound links • Great for: • Monitor customer and prospect sentiment • Competitive intelligence • Recruit beta participants • Collect customer feedback • Announce events of significance • Build your email marketing list © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 5
  • 6. Tech Forums In Numbers* Alexa Alexa Google Forum Threads Posts Members Reach Links Results techsupportforum.com 650,489 4,018,373 948,905 6,088 2,104 1,890K forums.techguy.org 1,015,367 8,462,026 686,738 3,008 984 2,410K bleepingcomputer.com 2,918,348 590,304 5,410 5,587 1,150K forums.whirlpool.net.au 1,860,525 38,082,213 556,340 1,547 1,921 13,200K forums.techarena.in 204,908 1,074,338 457,737 50,588 1,064 615K geekstogo.com 2,239,680 372,353 19,177 1,888 465K forums.anandtech.com 2,298,094 34,776,027 324,133 2,279 688 5,900K neowin.net 10,835,034 306,950 4,204 9,749 6,340K cybertechhelp.com 203,587 1,234,494 129,409 150,775 493 133K techspot.com 174,368 1,239,950 124,584 3,589 7,373 503K *Data collected on March 26, 2013 via respective sites and big-boards.com © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 6
  • 7. Forum Bonus Numbers:) • OS Platform Specific Alexa Alexa Google Threads Posts Members Reach Links Results ubuntuforums.org 1,941,211 11,938,966 1,797,940 1,820 14,704 1,150K macrumors.com 1,469,635 16,496,393 802,611 762 2,785 5,640K social.msdn.microsoft.com 1,413,482 6,595,909 22 2,566 876K • Mobile Platforms Alexa Alexa Google Threads Posts Members Reach Links Results forums.crackberry.com 659,227 7,814,436 3,760,140 3,245 598 9,350K androidforums.com 588,068 5,522,481 1,420,064 2,221 5,756 4,280K • Computer Security Hubs Alexa Alexa Google Threads Posts Members Reach Links Results wilderssecurity.com 208,187 1,967,940 127,383 22,449 1,599 502K dslreports.com 18,162,983 66,131 3,995 7,712 7,110K © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 7
  • 8. Non-English Tech Forums Germany Russia • ComputerBase • RU Board • Forum de Luxx • IXBT BBS • gulli:board • SysAdmins.ru • Giga.de • Habrahabr.ru China Brazil • IM286 • Forum GDH • Et8 • Techzone • Cfan • Baboo Forum • Forum PCs France • Hardware.fr • Presence PC © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 8
  • 9. Forum Etiquette • Complete you profile and indicate that you are a vendor • Introduce yourself and state your objective • Be quick with responses and authentic in messaging • Don’t pitch • Don’t bash competition • Always stay positive • Use your signature wisely, include a link to your site • Use Personal Messaging to remediate problems • Hint that acknowledgement of resolution is welcome but not required • Stay away from flame wars • Keep someone responsible for monitoring your forum landscape © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 9
  • 10. Marketing In A Forum • Develop relationships with frequent posters and moderators • Feed breaking news before mainstream PR • Crowd-source tier 1 support via avid fans and users • Establish dedicated sub-forums devoted to your products • Optimize SEO in all your responses and threads • Always link back to your site for more or technical info © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 10
  • 11. ListServs Why Bother? © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 11
  • 12. What Is Listserv? • ListServ is an electronic theme-specific mailing list • Once subscribed and added to the list, you can email that list and receive responses • Yes, it is still well and alive:) Still actively used by: • Librarians • Technology Coordinators in public education (K2-20) • Geeks © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 12
  • 13. Lurking Is For Vendors • Social Listening for vendors at its best • Open posts to a list by vendors are thrown upon • Identify and monitor all listservs that are used by your target personas • Listserv users know that smart vendors are listening • If problems are reported or help requests are posted, reach out directly for immediate resolution. Put your best people on it. • Hint that acknowledgement of resolution is welcome but not required • Keep someone responsible for monitoring all listservs. Lurking cat by ~FloatingUkuku on deviantART © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 13
  • 14. Why ListServ • Great lead generation tool. Majority of posts include signatures with direct extensions and titles. • Unfiltered and unbiased customer-to-customer feedback • Competitive intelligence • Save on mystery shoppers, list subscribers identify operational and product problems early • Rich source of feature ideas (evaluate carefully) • Identify and put your Mavens to work (Gladwell’s Tipping Point) © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 14
  • 15. Research Example • Evaluated one year of content from three listservs • 80,000+ messages from 3,500+ subscribers • Identified 122 listserv mavens • 51 affluent posters are existing and loyal customers! • 60 posters are customers of a competitor! • 11 posters are joint customers! • Based on received data promotional activities, content generation, collateral production and product positioning were adjusted. © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 15
  • 16. Good Luck!  Email d.shesterin@gmail.com for template files and frameworks  Connect on LinkedIn at linkd.in/shesterin  Follow me @dscheste © 2013 Dmitry Shesterin. All Rights Reserved. 16