1 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Joining Forces: How Audit and
Fraud Can More Effectively Divide
and Conquer
1992
2000
2011
2015CFE
SAS
Link Analysis &
Intelligence Analysis
US Army
Jen Dunham
SAS Security Intelligence
Background
& Experience
2 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
CFE
SAS
Link Analysis &
Intelligence Analysis
US Army
20
15
20
11
19
92
20
00
Jen Dunham
SAS Security Intelligence
Background
& Experience
3 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Which is why having controls in place, and making
them known can be an instrumental safeguard
in deterring some of the more preventable risks.
4 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Establish
Responsibility
Segregation
of Duties
Documented
Procedures
Independence
& Authority
Physical
Controls
Mechanical
Controls
Electronic
Controls
Other
Controls
5 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
The purpose of controls – and establishing procedures and responsibilities for those
control – then measuring against those – are a significant part of ensuring an
organizations overall success. As we saw with Enron and others,
without such controls – or in the wake of negating warnings of such issues –
organizations can fail – often affecting more than just the employees and
organizations… ultimately it affects investors, communities, friends and family.
Even the slightest bit of greed, the most minute wrongdoing or an ‘innocent’ improper
payment – can be a catalyst for destruction or set in motion a culture of acceptance
of such things. These things amplify over time, becoming ingrained within the
fabric of the culture, as we came to see with the Wells Fargo fake account scandal
where management was aware and part of typical sales practices.
6 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Ongoing audit efforts with proactive detection can help our underfunded and
overburdened staff and can improve the overall perception and relationship across
business units.
Partnering together with fraud efforts and embracing ongoing monitoring and detection
could positively change the seemingly prevalent practices of self serving greed, non-
ethical behaviors or political influences.
7 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
The overlap – or grey area of risk and compliance, fraud and audit or safeguards
in general, is a step in a direction I feel we need to embrace, to show executives
that this is not a necessary evil, its necessary period. Organizations that cant
perform positively without unethical actions will eventually implode, causing far
reaching damage and permanent damage to the industry.
In order to raise the bar on ‘doing the right thing’ and overcoming any notions that
businesses cant excel today without “this type of edge”; we have to show our
peers and the business community our value – which is stronger united.
8 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Its not us-versus them.
We must break any perception that an
audit finding or potential fraudulent
instance is negative – its an opportunity
to correct lax controls or outdated policy –
to help maintain a bright future for the
organization.
9 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Today, we can prove an investments value, measure against
efforts and report regularly and more easily on these
successes.
10 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
The technology exists today – its something we have been delivering for
years – perhaps even a bit before its time – before economies of scale
such as cloud or software as a service became more mainstream, but
continues to deliver significant value to businesses year after year.
11 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
That surface actionable results
12 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
With evidence and context
13 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
and measures to determine effectiveness of controls
14 of 42 © 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Thank You!
Continue the conversation with your
colleagues to find ways to work more
closely and in concert to promote
antifraud activities!

ACFE 2017 - Audit and Fraud Joining Forces

  • 1.
    1 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. Joining Forces: How Audit and Fraud Can More Effectively Divide and Conquer 1992 2000 2011 2015CFE SAS Link Analysis & Intelligence Analysis US Army Jen Dunham SAS Security Intelligence Background & Experience
  • 2.
    2 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. CFE SAS Link Analysis & Intelligence Analysis US Army 20 15 20 11 19 92 20 00 Jen Dunham SAS Security Intelligence Background & Experience
  • 3.
    3 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. Which is why having controls in place, and making them known can be an instrumental safeguard in deterring some of the more preventable risks.
  • 4.
    4 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. Establish Responsibility Segregation of Duties Documented Procedures Independence & Authority Physical Controls Mechanical Controls Electronic Controls Other Controls
  • 5.
    5 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. The purpose of controls – and establishing procedures and responsibilities for those control – then measuring against those – are a significant part of ensuring an organizations overall success. As we saw with Enron and others, without such controls – or in the wake of negating warnings of such issues – organizations can fail – often affecting more than just the employees and organizations… ultimately it affects investors, communities, friends and family. Even the slightest bit of greed, the most minute wrongdoing or an ‘innocent’ improper payment – can be a catalyst for destruction or set in motion a culture of acceptance of such things. These things amplify over time, becoming ingrained within the fabric of the culture, as we came to see with the Wells Fargo fake account scandal where management was aware and part of typical sales practices.
  • 6.
    6 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. Ongoing audit efforts with proactive detection can help our underfunded and overburdened staff and can improve the overall perception and relationship across business units. Partnering together with fraud efforts and embracing ongoing monitoring and detection could positively change the seemingly prevalent practices of self serving greed, non- ethical behaviors or political influences.
  • 7.
    7 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. The overlap – or grey area of risk and compliance, fraud and audit or safeguards in general, is a step in a direction I feel we need to embrace, to show executives that this is not a necessary evil, its necessary period. Organizations that cant perform positively without unethical actions will eventually implode, causing far reaching damage and permanent damage to the industry. In order to raise the bar on ‘doing the right thing’ and overcoming any notions that businesses cant excel today without “this type of edge”; we have to show our peers and the business community our value – which is stronger united.
  • 8.
    8 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. Its not us-versus them. We must break any perception that an audit finding or potential fraudulent instance is negative – its an opportunity to correct lax controls or outdated policy – to help maintain a bright future for the organization.
  • 9.
    9 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. Today, we can prove an investments value, measure against efforts and report regularly and more easily on these successes.
  • 10.
    10 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. The technology exists today – its something we have been delivering for years – perhaps even a bit before its time – before economies of scale such as cloud or software as a service became more mainstream, but continues to deliver significant value to businesses year after year.
  • 11.
    11 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. That surface actionable results
  • 12.
    12 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. With evidence and context
  • 13.
    13 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. and measures to determine effectiveness of controls
  • 14.
    14 of 42© 2017 Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc. Thank You! Continue the conversation with your colleagues to find ways to work more closely and in concert to promote antifraud activities!