SlideShare a Scribd company logo
Trading the 0DTE
Breakeven Iron
Condor
John Einar Sandvand
Online Traders’ Club Singapore
April 12, 2023
Four points about the the strategy
2
My
favorite
strategy Market
neutral
Many, but
small
losses
Consistently
profitable…
so far…
3
My
trading
journey
The 0DTE
Breakeven
Iron Condor
Strategy -
and the
results
How I
trade the
strategy
The agenda
1.
My trading journey
About me…
5
● John Einar
Sandvand
● 60 yrs old
● Lives in Norway
● Communications
Manager in
Schibsted
● Extensive
background as a
journalist,
including 3 years
in Asia
My trading journey
6
2020: Too big risk caused huge losses
7
2021: Finding my way
8
From May 2022: Growing my account
9
My trading journey
10
Me as a trader
11
I do not like
big losses
Me as a trader
12
I do not like
big losses
I have no edge
in predicting
the market
direction
Me as a trader
13
I do not like
big losses
I have no edge
in predicting
the market
direction
I am more
disciplined
with 0DTE
than longer
durations
Me as a trader
14
I do not like
big losses
I have no edge
in predicting
the market
direction
I am more
disciplined
with 0DTE
than longer
durations
0DTE
Breakeven Iron
Condor fits my
personality
and risk profile
Me as a trader
15
I do not like
big losses
I have no edge
in predicting
the market
direction
I am more
disciplined
with 0DTE
than longer
durations
0DTE
Breakeven Iron
Condor fits my
personality
and risk profile
Trading helps me learn
more about myself
16
The rational John The emotional John
2.
The 0DTE Breakeven Iron
Condor and my results
Two important terms to know
18
SPX
● Options on the
S&P 500 index
● European style =
cash settled. No
risk of assignment
● Very liquid
● Daily expiries
0DTE
● = Zero Days To
Expiration
● Options that
expire the same
day
● Has become
tremendously
popular
╺ Combination of
two credit
spreads
╺ Sell an out of the
money call - and
buy a call further
out
╺ Sell an out of the
money put - and
buy a put further
out
This is an Iron Condor
19
This is the 0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor
20
Sell a 0DTE
Iron Condor at
5 - 10 delta - at
multiple times
during the day
collecting
equal premium
on both sides
Set stop loss
on each
spread at
total premium
+ 0.05
Tighten stop
losses as
needed to
manage the
total risks of
your positions
and secure
profits
Change stop
loss to only
shorts during
the last hour
or when the
long has no
value
All trades are on SPX - the option on the S&P 500 index
Have done 2582 trades
over two years
21
The success of the strategy depends on
keeping the average losses much
smaller than the average wins
In principle the average loss should be
close to zero - hence the name
Breakeven Iron Condor. In reality there
will be some slippage, double stop
losses, bad fills, etc.
The average win has
so far been 2.3 times
the size of the
average loss
The win rate has
stayed very stable
22
40 % Based on
2582 trades
And so has the double
stop losses
23
3.7 % Based on
2582 trades
Two measures for the profitability
24
Average return
per trade
0.45 %
Measured as percentage of the
capital risked for the trade
(buying power put up)
Based on
2582 trades
Premium
Capture Rate
10.1 %
Net profit as a percentage of
the total premium collected
Results month by month
25
3.
How I trade the 0DTE
Breakeven Iron Condor
I trade discretionary
rather than mechanical
╺ Strict rules for stop losses
╺ But more flexible for other parts
╺ Not mechanical with set times and credit
╺ Others trade similar strategies more mechanical, for instance
Tammy Chambless MEIC (Multiple Entries Iron Condors)
╺ The Facebook group TastyTrade Options is a good place to
learn about different variations of the strategy
27
Many small trades
throughout the day
╺ First trade usually a couple of minutes into the market
╺ At least 30 minutes between the trades
╺ Very careful during the last 30 minutes
╺ Sometimes up to 12-13 trades in a day - but never all open at
the same time
28
The mechanics I
use when entering
╺ Width of the legs: 25 - 35
╺ Delta between 5 and 10
╺ Typically collects between 100 and 200 for the whole IC
╺ Enter the full IC in one operation
╺ Try to wait for time when the price of SPX seems to flatten out
29
I ALWAYS set stop
losses
╺ Stop losses set separately on each side
╺ I use a combination of stop limit and stop market orders using
OCO (Once Cancels the Other)
╺ Stop loss 1: Stop limit order - with stop at total premium + 0.05
and limit 0.2 further out
╺ Stop loss 2: Stop market order set 0.15 further out from the
limit price
30
The mechanics I
use for exiting
╺ Main rule: Stop loss or close shorts at 0.05. Remaining longs
can be reused later in the day. Will sometimes close positions
early to ensure profit
╺ Will tighten stop losses quickly after theta decay to break-even
point
╺ Stop losses will be adjusted throughout the day depending on
total risk or to ensure profit
31
Managing total risk most
important during the day
╺ Risk management determines how many positions I have on
╺ Always ask: What is the worst that can happen today with my
current positions?
╺ The biggest enemy of the strategy: Sudden and large moves in the
market
╺ If several stop losses hit already, I will often tighten up remaining
stop losses or wait before putting on new trades
╺ Especially aware of possibility of double stop losses
╺ Will sometimes add a call or put credit spread to adjust the total
delta
╺ Never risk more than 1-2 % of total capital on a single day 32
How I keep overview of the
trades during the day
33
Combination of:
● Organizing trades into groups
in Thinkorswim
● Continuously logging all trades
in Excel - and greying out
positions as the risk is removed
● Regular review of all positions
and adjusting the stop losses
Some of the risks with the
strategy
╺ Double stop losses. Has happened in 3.7 % of the trades
╺ Bad fills. Can happen if the stop limit order is skipped
╺ Both the stop limit and the stop market order trigger at the
same time. Can sometimes make the trade profitable
╺ Market makes a sudden move before you have set your stop
loss order
34
A great tool to use for
monitoring is
0DTESPX.com
35
Developed by Iulian Constantin Constantinescu from the TastyTrade Options group
My most important
learning: Keep a trading log
╺ Find a way to log all your trades
╺ I log: Strikes, strategy, premium, closing of positions, total risk,
gross and net profit, and more
╺ Find your way: BUT LOG YOUR TRADES!
36
On the positive side
╺ Avoid the big losses
╺ Many seem to be able to make
consistent profit in today’s
market
╺ Different variations of the
strategy depending on risk
profile, etc.
Summing up: Is this a
strategy for you?
On the negative side
╺ Time-consuming - with many
trades throughout the day
(night in Singapore)
╺ My style requires close
attention to risk management
╺ You pay a lot in commissions
(30 % of gross profits in my
case) 37
Moving on:
Two steps I want to
take in my trading
38
Identify a set of 0DTE strategies
that gives diversification
39
Start with backtesting of
different strategies
40
Thanks!
Any questions?
You can find me at
Sandvand.net
Mail: john.einar@sandvand.net
41

More Related Content

What's hot

Trade Forex From Home - 10 Biggest Mistakes New Forex Traders Make (And How T...
Trade Forex From Home - 10 Biggest Mistakes New Forex Traders Make (And How T...Trade Forex From Home - 10 Biggest Mistakes New Forex Traders Make (And How T...
Trade Forex From Home - 10 Biggest Mistakes New Forex Traders Make (And How T...
ForexTraining
 
Market Strategies Using Options
Market Strategies Using OptionsMarket Strategies Using Options
Market Strategies Using Options
Navin Bafna
 
Introduction to Technical Analysis
Introduction to Technical AnalysisIntroduction to Technical Analysis
Introduction to Technical Analysis
mediafin
 
Trade what you see not what you think
Trade what you see not what you thinkTrade what you see not what you think
Trade what you see not what you think
Ninja Tan
 
LC's Forex Trading System
LC's Forex Trading SystemLC's Forex Trading System
LC's Forex Trading System
lcchong76
 
The power to predict basics and advanced forex analysis
The power to predict   basics and advanced forex analysisThe power to predict   basics and advanced forex analysis
The power to predict basics and advanced forex analysis
Power Point
 
Learn A Simple Range Trading Strategy
Learn A Simple Range Trading StrategyLearn A Simple Range Trading Strategy
Learn A Simple Range Trading Strategy
NetpicksTrading
 
The Technical Analysis Guidebook
The Technical Analysis GuidebookThe Technical Analysis Guidebook
The Technical Analysis Guidebook
BigTrends Price Headley
 
Section I - CH 4 - Practical Considerations.pdf
Section I - CH 4 - Practical Considerations.pdfSection I - CH 4 - Practical Considerations.pdf
Section I - CH 4 - Practical Considerations.pdf
Professional Training Academy
 
The Forex Trading Psychology
The Forex Trading PsychologyThe Forex Trading Psychology
The Forex Trading Psychology
JustForex
 
Pull Back Swing Trading Strategy I The Only Way To Trade Stocks and E-Mini Re...
Pull Back Swing Trading Strategy I The Only Way To Trade Stocks and E-Mini Re...Pull Back Swing Trading Strategy I The Only Way To Trade Stocks and E-Mini Re...
Pull Back Swing Trading Strategy I The Only Way To Trade Stocks and E-Mini Re...
Marketgeekschannel
 
zaghiforex candlestick bible.pdf
zaghiforex candlestick bible.pdfzaghiforex candlestick bible.pdf
zaghiforex candlestick bible.pdf
PhilipUmoh
 
Portfolio Management - CH 12 - Fact, Fiction & Momentum Investing | CMT Level...
Portfolio Management - CH 12 - Fact, Fiction & Momentum Investing | CMT Level...Portfolio Management - CH 12 - Fact, Fiction & Momentum Investing | CMT Level...
Portfolio Management - CH 12 - Fact, Fiction & Momentum Investing | CMT Level...
Professional Training Academy
 
RSI Strategy
RSI StrategyRSI Strategy
RSI Strategy
Olymp Trade
 
Trading the news
Trading the newsTrading the news
Trading the news
ypendharkar
 
Bollinger Bands - Here is how to trade them
Bollinger Bands - Here is how to trade themBollinger Bands - Here is how to trade them
Bollinger Bands - Here is how to trade them
NetpicksTrading
 
The QuantCon Keynote: "Counter Trend Trading – Threat or Complement to Trend ...
The QuantCon Keynote: "Counter Trend Trading – Threat or Complement to Trend ...The QuantCon Keynote: "Counter Trend Trading – Threat or Complement to Trend ...
The QuantCon Keynote: "Counter Trend Trading – Threat or Complement to Trend ...
Quantopian
 
Master binary options trading ebook
Master binary options trading ebookMaster binary options trading ebook
Master binary options trading ebook
MasterBinary
 
Candlestick cheat-sheet-rgb-final
Candlestick cheat-sheet-rgb-finalCandlestick cheat-sheet-rgb-final
Candlestick cheat-sheet-rgb-final
Michael Kleven
 
Positional trading and its technical indicators
Positional trading and its technical indicatorsPositional trading and its technical indicators
Positional trading and its technical indicators
Bullish India
 

What's hot (20)

Trade Forex From Home - 10 Biggest Mistakes New Forex Traders Make (And How T...
Trade Forex From Home - 10 Biggest Mistakes New Forex Traders Make (And How T...Trade Forex From Home - 10 Biggest Mistakes New Forex Traders Make (And How T...
Trade Forex From Home - 10 Biggest Mistakes New Forex Traders Make (And How T...
 
Market Strategies Using Options
Market Strategies Using OptionsMarket Strategies Using Options
Market Strategies Using Options
 
Introduction to Technical Analysis
Introduction to Technical AnalysisIntroduction to Technical Analysis
Introduction to Technical Analysis
 
Trade what you see not what you think
Trade what you see not what you thinkTrade what you see not what you think
Trade what you see not what you think
 
LC's Forex Trading System
LC's Forex Trading SystemLC's Forex Trading System
LC's Forex Trading System
 
The power to predict basics and advanced forex analysis
The power to predict   basics and advanced forex analysisThe power to predict   basics and advanced forex analysis
The power to predict basics and advanced forex analysis
 
Learn A Simple Range Trading Strategy
Learn A Simple Range Trading StrategyLearn A Simple Range Trading Strategy
Learn A Simple Range Trading Strategy
 
The Technical Analysis Guidebook
The Technical Analysis GuidebookThe Technical Analysis Guidebook
The Technical Analysis Guidebook
 
Section I - CH 4 - Practical Considerations.pdf
Section I - CH 4 - Practical Considerations.pdfSection I - CH 4 - Practical Considerations.pdf
Section I - CH 4 - Practical Considerations.pdf
 
The Forex Trading Psychology
The Forex Trading PsychologyThe Forex Trading Psychology
The Forex Trading Psychology
 
Pull Back Swing Trading Strategy I The Only Way To Trade Stocks and E-Mini Re...
Pull Back Swing Trading Strategy I The Only Way To Trade Stocks and E-Mini Re...Pull Back Swing Trading Strategy I The Only Way To Trade Stocks and E-Mini Re...
Pull Back Swing Trading Strategy I The Only Way To Trade Stocks and E-Mini Re...
 
zaghiforex candlestick bible.pdf
zaghiforex candlestick bible.pdfzaghiforex candlestick bible.pdf
zaghiforex candlestick bible.pdf
 
Portfolio Management - CH 12 - Fact, Fiction & Momentum Investing | CMT Level...
Portfolio Management - CH 12 - Fact, Fiction & Momentum Investing | CMT Level...Portfolio Management - CH 12 - Fact, Fiction & Momentum Investing | CMT Level...
Portfolio Management - CH 12 - Fact, Fiction & Momentum Investing | CMT Level...
 
RSI Strategy
RSI StrategyRSI Strategy
RSI Strategy
 
Trading the news
Trading the newsTrading the news
Trading the news
 
Bollinger Bands - Here is how to trade them
Bollinger Bands - Here is how to trade themBollinger Bands - Here is how to trade them
Bollinger Bands - Here is how to trade them
 
The QuantCon Keynote: "Counter Trend Trading – Threat or Complement to Trend ...
The QuantCon Keynote: "Counter Trend Trading – Threat or Complement to Trend ...The QuantCon Keynote: "Counter Trend Trading – Threat or Complement to Trend ...
The QuantCon Keynote: "Counter Trend Trading – Threat or Complement to Trend ...
 
Master binary options trading ebook
Master binary options trading ebookMaster binary options trading ebook
Master binary options trading ebook
 
Candlestick cheat-sheet-rgb-final
Candlestick cheat-sheet-rgb-finalCandlestick cheat-sheet-rgb-final
Candlestick cheat-sheet-rgb-final
 
Positional trading and its technical indicators
Positional trading and its technical indicatorsPositional trading and its technical indicators
Positional trading and its technical indicators
 

Similar to 0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor - How I trade it - 230412.pdf

The Ultimate Trading Blueprint
The Ultimate Trading BlueprintThe Ultimate Trading Blueprint
The Ultimate Trading Blueprint
Vunani Private Clients
 
Dhaka slides keys to success
Dhaka slides   keys to successDhaka slides   keys to success
Dhaka slides keys to success
Power Point
 
Forex Trading
Forex TradingForex Trading
Forex Trading
Boris Fesenko
 
Investment in professional trading on the US commodity exchanges
Investment in professional trading on the US commodity exchanges Investment in professional trading on the US commodity exchanges
Investment in professional trading on the US commodity exchanges
Mikhail Dickey
 
Forex Portfolio Trader
Forex Portfolio TraderForex Portfolio Trader
Forex Portfolio Trader
Boris Fesenko
 
Jamal Path to Investing
Jamal Path to InvestingJamal Path to Investing
Jamal Path to Investing
Gordon Robertson Chartered MCSI
 
Price Action & RM-PS Spider PDF.pdf
Price Action & RM-PS Spider PDF.pdfPrice Action & RM-PS Spider PDF.pdf
Price Action & RM-PS Spider PDF.pdf
MukeshBansal51
 
Meetup Slides for September 24, 2018
Meetup Slides for September 24, 2018Meetup Slides for September 24, 2018
Meetup Slides for September 24, 2018
Vancouver Disciplined Trading Hub (VDTH)
 
Meetup Slides for November 5, 2018
Meetup Slides for November 5, 2018Meetup Slides for November 5, 2018
Meetup Slides for November 5, 2018
Vancouver Disciplined Trading Hub (VDTH)
 
Meetup Slides for November 19, 2018
Meetup Slides for November 19, 2018Meetup Slides for November 19, 2018
Meetup Slides for November 19, 2018
Vancouver Disciplined Trading Hub (VDTH)
 
330286200-Money-and-Risk-Management1.pdf
330286200-Money-and-Risk-Management1.pdf330286200-Money-and-Risk-Management1.pdf
330286200-Money-and-Risk-Management1.pdf
mmahdipour1379
 
Meetup Slides for October 1, 2018
Meetup Slides for October 1, 2018Meetup Slides for October 1, 2018
Meetup Slides for October 1, 2018
Vancouver Disciplined Trading Hub (VDTH)
 
Meetup Slides for October 8, 2018
Meetup Slides for October 8, 2018Meetup Slides for October 8, 2018
Meetup Slides for October 8, 2018
Vancouver Disciplined Trading Hub (VDTH)
 
Meetup Slides for February 24, 2019
Meetup Slides for February 24, 2019Meetup Slides for February 24, 2019
Meetup Slides for February 24, 2019
Vancouver Disciplined Trading Hub (VDTH)
 
3 Things That Separates Traders From Successful Traders
3 Things That Separates Traders From Successful Traders3 Things That Separates Traders From Successful Traders
3 Things That Separates Traders From Successful Traders
Reach Markets
 
Mark owen
Mark owenMark owen
Mark owen
Power Point
 
Meetup Slides for March 17, 2019
Meetup Slides for March 17, 2019Meetup Slides for March 17, 2019
Meetup Slides for March 17, 2019
Vancouver Disciplined Trading Hub (VDTH)
 
Meetup Slides for September 17, 2018
Meetup Slides for September 17, 2018Meetup Slides for September 17, 2018
Meetup Slides for September 17, 2018
Vancouver Disciplined Trading Hub (VDTH)
 
How do you design a winning trading system ofa
How do you design a winning trading system ofaHow do you design a winning trading system ofa
How do you design a winning trading system ofa
Online Finance Academy
 
Summer training @ jainam shares consultancy ltd
Summer training @ jainam shares consultancy ltdSummer training @ jainam shares consultancy ltd
Summer training @ jainam shares consultancy ltd
Mohit Jariwala
 

Similar to 0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor - How I trade it - 230412.pdf (20)

The Ultimate Trading Blueprint
The Ultimate Trading BlueprintThe Ultimate Trading Blueprint
The Ultimate Trading Blueprint
 
Dhaka slides keys to success
Dhaka slides   keys to successDhaka slides   keys to success
Dhaka slides keys to success
 
Forex Trading
Forex TradingForex Trading
Forex Trading
 
Investment in professional trading on the US commodity exchanges
Investment in professional trading on the US commodity exchanges Investment in professional trading on the US commodity exchanges
Investment in professional trading on the US commodity exchanges
 
Forex Portfolio Trader
Forex Portfolio TraderForex Portfolio Trader
Forex Portfolio Trader
 
Jamal Path to Investing
Jamal Path to InvestingJamal Path to Investing
Jamal Path to Investing
 
Price Action & RM-PS Spider PDF.pdf
Price Action & RM-PS Spider PDF.pdfPrice Action & RM-PS Spider PDF.pdf
Price Action & RM-PS Spider PDF.pdf
 
Meetup Slides for September 24, 2018
Meetup Slides for September 24, 2018Meetup Slides for September 24, 2018
Meetup Slides for September 24, 2018
 
Meetup Slides for November 5, 2018
Meetup Slides for November 5, 2018Meetup Slides for November 5, 2018
Meetup Slides for November 5, 2018
 
Meetup Slides for November 19, 2018
Meetup Slides for November 19, 2018Meetup Slides for November 19, 2018
Meetup Slides for November 19, 2018
 
330286200-Money-and-Risk-Management1.pdf
330286200-Money-and-Risk-Management1.pdf330286200-Money-and-Risk-Management1.pdf
330286200-Money-and-Risk-Management1.pdf
 
Meetup Slides for October 1, 2018
Meetup Slides for October 1, 2018Meetup Slides for October 1, 2018
Meetup Slides for October 1, 2018
 
Meetup Slides for October 8, 2018
Meetup Slides for October 8, 2018Meetup Slides for October 8, 2018
Meetup Slides for October 8, 2018
 
Meetup Slides for February 24, 2019
Meetup Slides for February 24, 2019Meetup Slides for February 24, 2019
Meetup Slides for February 24, 2019
 
3 Things That Separates Traders From Successful Traders
3 Things That Separates Traders From Successful Traders3 Things That Separates Traders From Successful Traders
3 Things That Separates Traders From Successful Traders
 
Mark owen
Mark owenMark owen
Mark owen
 
Meetup Slides for March 17, 2019
Meetup Slides for March 17, 2019Meetup Slides for March 17, 2019
Meetup Slides for March 17, 2019
 
Meetup Slides for September 17, 2018
Meetup Slides for September 17, 2018Meetup Slides for September 17, 2018
Meetup Slides for September 17, 2018
 
How do you design a winning trading system ofa
How do you design a winning trading system ofaHow do you design a winning trading system ofa
How do you design a winning trading system ofa
 
Summer training @ jainam shares consultancy ltd
Summer training @ jainam shares consultancy ltdSummer training @ jainam shares consultancy ltd
Summer training @ jainam shares consultancy ltd
 

More from John Einar Sandvand

Vestlandsparadis med en dose Kina
Vestlandsparadis med en dose KinaVestlandsparadis med en dose Kina
Vestlandsparadis med en dose Kina
John Einar Sandvand
 
Ås-kalenderen 2017
Ås-kalenderen 2017Ås-kalenderen 2017
Ås-kalenderen 2017
John Einar Sandvand
 
Ås-kalenderen 2016
Ås-kalenderen 2016Ås-kalenderen 2016
Ås-kalenderen 2016
John Einar Sandvand
 
Digital forces shaping the media business in 2011
Digital forces shaping the media business in 2011 Digital forces shaping the media business in 2011
Digital forces shaping the media business in 2011
John Einar Sandvand
 
Five digital trends shaping the media business in 2011
Five digital trends shaping the media business in 2011 Five digital trends shaping the media business in 2011
Five digital trends shaping the media business in 2011
John Einar Sandvand
 
Repackaging media content for new products
Repackaging media content for new products Repackaging media content for new products
Repackaging media content for new products
John Einar Sandvand
 
Twitter As A Tool For Journalism
Twitter As A Tool For JournalismTwitter As A Tool For Journalism
Twitter As A Tool For Journalism
John Einar Sandvand
 
Twitter Som Journalistisk VerktøY
Twitter Som Journalistisk VerktøYTwitter Som Journalistisk VerktøY
Twitter Som Journalistisk VerktøY
John Einar Sandvand
 

More from John Einar Sandvand (8)

Vestlandsparadis med en dose Kina
Vestlandsparadis med en dose KinaVestlandsparadis med en dose Kina
Vestlandsparadis med en dose Kina
 
Ås-kalenderen 2017
Ås-kalenderen 2017Ås-kalenderen 2017
Ås-kalenderen 2017
 
Ås-kalenderen 2016
Ås-kalenderen 2016Ås-kalenderen 2016
Ås-kalenderen 2016
 
Digital forces shaping the media business in 2011
Digital forces shaping the media business in 2011 Digital forces shaping the media business in 2011
Digital forces shaping the media business in 2011
 
Five digital trends shaping the media business in 2011
Five digital trends shaping the media business in 2011 Five digital trends shaping the media business in 2011
Five digital trends shaping the media business in 2011
 
Repackaging media content for new products
Repackaging media content for new products Repackaging media content for new products
Repackaging media content for new products
 
Twitter As A Tool For Journalism
Twitter As A Tool For JournalismTwitter As A Tool For Journalism
Twitter As A Tool For Journalism
 
Twitter Som Journalistisk VerktøY
Twitter Som Journalistisk VerktøYTwitter Som Journalistisk VerktøY
Twitter Som Journalistisk VerktøY
 

Recently uploaded

Importance of community participation in development projects.pdf
Importance of community participation in development projects.pdfImportance of community participation in development projects.pdf
Importance of community participation in development projects.pdf
krisretro1
 
真实可查(nwu毕业证书)美国西北大学毕业证学位证书范本原版一模一样
真实可查(nwu毕业证书)美国西北大学毕业证学位证书范本原版一模一样真实可查(nwu毕业证书)美国西北大学毕业证学位证书范本原版一模一样
真实可查(nwu毕业证书)美国西北大学毕业证学位证书范本原版一模一样
28xo7hf
 
Seeman_Fiintouch_LLP_Newsletter_Jun_2024.pdf
Seeman_Fiintouch_LLP_Newsletter_Jun_2024.pdfSeeman_Fiintouch_LLP_Newsletter_Jun_2024.pdf
Seeman_Fiintouch_LLP_Newsletter_Jun_2024.pdf
Ashis Kumar Dey
 
Does teamwork really matter? Looking beyond the job posting to understand lab...
Does teamwork really matter? Looking beyond the job posting to understand lab...Does teamwork really matter? Looking beyond the job posting to understand lab...
Does teamwork really matter? Looking beyond the job posting to understand lab...
Labour Market Information Council | Conseil de l’information sur le marché du travail
 
How to Invest in Cryptocurrency for Beginners: A Complete Guide
How to Invest in Cryptocurrency for Beginners: A Complete GuideHow to Invest in Cryptocurrency for Beginners: A Complete Guide
How to Invest in Cryptocurrency for Beginners: A Complete Guide
Daniel
 
一比一原版(RMIT毕业证)皇家墨尔本理工大学毕业证如何办理
一比一原版(RMIT毕业证)皇家墨尔本理工大学毕业证如何办理一比一原版(RMIT毕业证)皇家墨尔本理工大学毕业证如何办理
一比一原版(RMIT毕业证)皇家墨尔本理工大学毕业证如何办理
k4ncd0z
 
欧洲杯投注-欧洲杯投注买球-欧洲杯投注买球网|【​网址​🎉ac22.net🎉​】
欧洲杯投注-欧洲杯投注买球-欧洲杯投注买球网|【​网址​🎉ac22.net🎉​】欧洲杯投注-欧洲杯投注买球-欧洲杯投注买球网|【​网址​🎉ac22.net🎉​】
欧洲杯投注-欧洲杯投注买球-欧洲杯投注买球网|【​网址​🎉ac22.net🎉​】
brunasordi905
 
Optimizing Net Interest Margin (NIM) in the Financial Sector (With Examples).pdf
Optimizing Net Interest Margin (NIM) in the Financial Sector (With Examples).pdfOptimizing Net Interest Margin (NIM) in the Financial Sector (With Examples).pdf
Optimizing Net Interest Margin (NIM) in the Financial Sector (With Examples).pdf
shruti1menon2
 
13 Jun 24 ILC Retirement Income Summit - slides.pptx
13 Jun 24 ILC Retirement Income Summit - slides.pptx13 Jun 24 ILC Retirement Income Summit - slides.pptx
13 Jun 24 ILC Retirement Income Summit - slides.pptx
ILC- UK
 
Independent Study - College of Wooster Research (2023-2024)
Independent Study - College of Wooster Research (2023-2024)Independent Study - College of Wooster Research (2023-2024)
Independent Study - College of Wooster Research (2023-2024)
AntoniaOwensDetwiler
 
South Dakota State University degree offer diploma Transcript
South Dakota State University degree offer diploma TranscriptSouth Dakota State University degree offer diploma Transcript
South Dakota State University degree offer diploma Transcript
ynfqplhm
 
Who Is Abhay Bhutada, MD of Poonawalla Fincorp
Who Is Abhay Bhutada, MD of Poonawalla FincorpWho Is Abhay Bhutada, MD of Poonawalla Fincorp
Who Is Abhay Bhutada, MD of Poonawalla Fincorp
beulahfernandes8
 
KYC Compliance: A Cornerstone of Global Crypto Regulatory Frameworks
KYC Compliance: A Cornerstone of Global Crypto Regulatory FrameworksKYC Compliance: A Cornerstone of Global Crypto Regulatory Frameworks
KYC Compliance: A Cornerstone of Global Crypto Regulatory Frameworks
Any kyc Account
 
The state of welfare Resolution Foundation Event
The state of welfare Resolution Foundation EventThe state of welfare Resolution Foundation Event
The state of welfare Resolution Foundation Event
ResolutionFoundation
 
Ending stagnation: How to boost prosperity across Scotland
Ending stagnation: How to boost prosperity across ScotlandEnding stagnation: How to boost prosperity across Scotland
Ending stagnation: How to boost prosperity across Scotland
ResolutionFoundation
 
The Rise and Fall of Ponzi Schemes in America.pptx
The Rise and Fall of Ponzi Schemes in America.pptxThe Rise and Fall of Ponzi Schemes in America.pptx
The Rise and Fall of Ponzi Schemes in America.pptx
Diana Rose
 
Tdasx: In-Depth Analysis of Cryptocurrency Giveaway Scams and Security Strate...
Tdasx: In-Depth Analysis of Cryptocurrency Giveaway Scams and Security Strate...Tdasx: In-Depth Analysis of Cryptocurrency Giveaway Scams and Security Strate...
Tdasx: In-Depth Analysis of Cryptocurrency Giveaway Scams and Security Strate...
nimaruinazawa258
 
Macroeconomic-digest-of-Ukraine-0624-Eng.pdf
Macroeconomic-digest-of-Ukraine-0624-Eng.pdfMacroeconomic-digest-of-Ukraine-0624-Eng.pdf
Macroeconomic-digest-of-Ukraine-0624-Eng.pdf
olaola5673
 
Bridging the gap: Online job postings, survey data and the assessment of job ...
Bridging the gap: Online job postings, survey data and the assessment of job ...Bridging the gap: Online job postings, survey data and the assessment of job ...
Bridging the gap: Online job postings, survey data and the assessment of job ...
Labour Market Information Council | Conseil de l’information sur le marché du travail
 
BIHC Briefing June 2024 from Bank+Insurance Hybrid Capital in association wit...
BIHC Briefing June 2024 from Bank+Insurance Hybrid Capital in association wit...BIHC Briefing June 2024 from Bank+Insurance Hybrid Capital in association wit...
BIHC Briefing June 2024 from Bank+Insurance Hybrid Capital in association wit...
Neil Day
 

Recently uploaded (20)

Importance of community participation in development projects.pdf
Importance of community participation in development projects.pdfImportance of community participation in development projects.pdf
Importance of community participation in development projects.pdf
 
真实可查(nwu毕业证书)美国西北大学毕业证学位证书范本原版一模一样
真实可查(nwu毕业证书)美国西北大学毕业证学位证书范本原版一模一样真实可查(nwu毕业证书)美国西北大学毕业证学位证书范本原版一模一样
真实可查(nwu毕业证书)美国西北大学毕业证学位证书范本原版一模一样
 
Seeman_Fiintouch_LLP_Newsletter_Jun_2024.pdf
Seeman_Fiintouch_LLP_Newsletter_Jun_2024.pdfSeeman_Fiintouch_LLP_Newsletter_Jun_2024.pdf
Seeman_Fiintouch_LLP_Newsletter_Jun_2024.pdf
 
Does teamwork really matter? Looking beyond the job posting to understand lab...
Does teamwork really matter? Looking beyond the job posting to understand lab...Does teamwork really matter? Looking beyond the job posting to understand lab...
Does teamwork really matter? Looking beyond the job posting to understand lab...
 
How to Invest in Cryptocurrency for Beginners: A Complete Guide
How to Invest in Cryptocurrency for Beginners: A Complete GuideHow to Invest in Cryptocurrency for Beginners: A Complete Guide
How to Invest in Cryptocurrency for Beginners: A Complete Guide
 
一比一原版(RMIT毕业证)皇家墨尔本理工大学毕业证如何办理
一比一原版(RMIT毕业证)皇家墨尔本理工大学毕业证如何办理一比一原版(RMIT毕业证)皇家墨尔本理工大学毕业证如何办理
一比一原版(RMIT毕业证)皇家墨尔本理工大学毕业证如何办理
 
欧洲杯投注-欧洲杯投注买球-欧洲杯投注买球网|【​网址​🎉ac22.net🎉​】
欧洲杯投注-欧洲杯投注买球-欧洲杯投注买球网|【​网址​🎉ac22.net🎉​】欧洲杯投注-欧洲杯投注买球-欧洲杯投注买球网|【​网址​🎉ac22.net🎉​】
欧洲杯投注-欧洲杯投注买球-欧洲杯投注买球网|【​网址​🎉ac22.net🎉​】
 
Optimizing Net Interest Margin (NIM) in the Financial Sector (With Examples).pdf
Optimizing Net Interest Margin (NIM) in the Financial Sector (With Examples).pdfOptimizing Net Interest Margin (NIM) in the Financial Sector (With Examples).pdf
Optimizing Net Interest Margin (NIM) in the Financial Sector (With Examples).pdf
 
13 Jun 24 ILC Retirement Income Summit - slides.pptx
13 Jun 24 ILC Retirement Income Summit - slides.pptx13 Jun 24 ILC Retirement Income Summit - slides.pptx
13 Jun 24 ILC Retirement Income Summit - slides.pptx
 
Independent Study - College of Wooster Research (2023-2024)
Independent Study - College of Wooster Research (2023-2024)Independent Study - College of Wooster Research (2023-2024)
Independent Study - College of Wooster Research (2023-2024)
 
South Dakota State University degree offer diploma Transcript
South Dakota State University degree offer diploma TranscriptSouth Dakota State University degree offer diploma Transcript
South Dakota State University degree offer diploma Transcript
 
Who Is Abhay Bhutada, MD of Poonawalla Fincorp
Who Is Abhay Bhutada, MD of Poonawalla FincorpWho Is Abhay Bhutada, MD of Poonawalla Fincorp
Who Is Abhay Bhutada, MD of Poonawalla Fincorp
 
KYC Compliance: A Cornerstone of Global Crypto Regulatory Frameworks
KYC Compliance: A Cornerstone of Global Crypto Regulatory FrameworksKYC Compliance: A Cornerstone of Global Crypto Regulatory Frameworks
KYC Compliance: A Cornerstone of Global Crypto Regulatory Frameworks
 
The state of welfare Resolution Foundation Event
The state of welfare Resolution Foundation EventThe state of welfare Resolution Foundation Event
The state of welfare Resolution Foundation Event
 
Ending stagnation: How to boost prosperity across Scotland
Ending stagnation: How to boost prosperity across ScotlandEnding stagnation: How to boost prosperity across Scotland
Ending stagnation: How to boost prosperity across Scotland
 
The Rise and Fall of Ponzi Schemes in America.pptx
The Rise and Fall of Ponzi Schemes in America.pptxThe Rise and Fall of Ponzi Schemes in America.pptx
The Rise and Fall of Ponzi Schemes in America.pptx
 
Tdasx: In-Depth Analysis of Cryptocurrency Giveaway Scams and Security Strate...
Tdasx: In-Depth Analysis of Cryptocurrency Giveaway Scams and Security Strate...Tdasx: In-Depth Analysis of Cryptocurrency Giveaway Scams and Security Strate...
Tdasx: In-Depth Analysis of Cryptocurrency Giveaway Scams and Security Strate...
 
Macroeconomic-digest-of-Ukraine-0624-Eng.pdf
Macroeconomic-digest-of-Ukraine-0624-Eng.pdfMacroeconomic-digest-of-Ukraine-0624-Eng.pdf
Macroeconomic-digest-of-Ukraine-0624-Eng.pdf
 
Bridging the gap: Online job postings, survey data and the assessment of job ...
Bridging the gap: Online job postings, survey data and the assessment of job ...Bridging the gap: Online job postings, survey data and the assessment of job ...
Bridging the gap: Online job postings, survey data and the assessment of job ...
 
BIHC Briefing June 2024 from Bank+Insurance Hybrid Capital in association wit...
BIHC Briefing June 2024 from Bank+Insurance Hybrid Capital in association wit...BIHC Briefing June 2024 from Bank+Insurance Hybrid Capital in association wit...
BIHC Briefing June 2024 from Bank+Insurance Hybrid Capital in association wit...
 

0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor - How I trade it - 230412.pdf

  • 1. Trading the 0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor John Einar Sandvand Online Traders’ Club Singapore April 12, 2023
  • 2. Four points about the the strategy 2 My favorite strategy Market neutral Many, but small losses Consistently profitable… so far…
  • 3. 3 My trading journey The 0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor Strategy - and the results How I trade the strategy The agenda
  • 5. About me… 5 ● John Einar Sandvand ● 60 yrs old ● Lives in Norway ● Communications Manager in Schibsted ● Extensive background as a journalist, including 3 years in Asia
  • 7. 2020: Too big risk caused huge losses 7
  • 9. From May 2022: Growing my account 9
  • 11. Me as a trader 11 I do not like big losses
  • 12. Me as a trader 12 I do not like big losses I have no edge in predicting the market direction
  • 13. Me as a trader 13 I do not like big losses I have no edge in predicting the market direction I am more disciplined with 0DTE than longer durations
  • 14. Me as a trader 14 I do not like big losses I have no edge in predicting the market direction I am more disciplined with 0DTE than longer durations 0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor fits my personality and risk profile
  • 15. Me as a trader 15 I do not like big losses I have no edge in predicting the market direction I am more disciplined with 0DTE than longer durations 0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor fits my personality and risk profile
  • 16. Trading helps me learn more about myself 16 The rational John The emotional John
  • 17. 2. The 0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor and my results
  • 18. Two important terms to know 18 SPX ● Options on the S&P 500 index ● European style = cash settled. No risk of assignment ● Very liquid ● Daily expiries 0DTE ● = Zero Days To Expiration ● Options that expire the same day ● Has become tremendously popular
  • 19. ╺ Combination of two credit spreads ╺ Sell an out of the money call - and buy a call further out ╺ Sell an out of the money put - and buy a put further out This is an Iron Condor 19
  • 20. This is the 0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor 20 Sell a 0DTE Iron Condor at 5 - 10 delta - at multiple times during the day collecting equal premium on both sides Set stop loss on each spread at total premium + 0.05 Tighten stop losses as needed to manage the total risks of your positions and secure profits Change stop loss to only shorts during the last hour or when the long has no value All trades are on SPX - the option on the S&P 500 index
  • 21. Have done 2582 trades over two years 21 The success of the strategy depends on keeping the average losses much smaller than the average wins In principle the average loss should be close to zero - hence the name Breakeven Iron Condor. In reality there will be some slippage, double stop losses, bad fills, etc. The average win has so far been 2.3 times the size of the average loss
  • 22. The win rate has stayed very stable 22 40 % Based on 2582 trades
  • 23. And so has the double stop losses 23 3.7 % Based on 2582 trades
  • 24. Two measures for the profitability 24 Average return per trade 0.45 % Measured as percentage of the capital risked for the trade (buying power put up) Based on 2582 trades Premium Capture Rate 10.1 % Net profit as a percentage of the total premium collected
  • 25. Results month by month 25
  • 26. 3. How I trade the 0DTE Breakeven Iron Condor
  • 27. I trade discretionary rather than mechanical ╺ Strict rules for stop losses ╺ But more flexible for other parts ╺ Not mechanical with set times and credit ╺ Others trade similar strategies more mechanical, for instance Tammy Chambless MEIC (Multiple Entries Iron Condors) ╺ The Facebook group TastyTrade Options is a good place to learn about different variations of the strategy 27
  • 28. Many small trades throughout the day ╺ First trade usually a couple of minutes into the market ╺ At least 30 minutes between the trades ╺ Very careful during the last 30 minutes ╺ Sometimes up to 12-13 trades in a day - but never all open at the same time 28
  • 29. The mechanics I use when entering ╺ Width of the legs: 25 - 35 ╺ Delta between 5 and 10 ╺ Typically collects between 100 and 200 for the whole IC ╺ Enter the full IC in one operation ╺ Try to wait for time when the price of SPX seems to flatten out 29
  • 30. I ALWAYS set stop losses ╺ Stop losses set separately on each side ╺ I use a combination of stop limit and stop market orders using OCO (Once Cancels the Other) ╺ Stop loss 1: Stop limit order - with stop at total premium + 0.05 and limit 0.2 further out ╺ Stop loss 2: Stop market order set 0.15 further out from the limit price 30
  • 31. The mechanics I use for exiting ╺ Main rule: Stop loss or close shorts at 0.05. Remaining longs can be reused later in the day. Will sometimes close positions early to ensure profit ╺ Will tighten stop losses quickly after theta decay to break-even point ╺ Stop losses will be adjusted throughout the day depending on total risk or to ensure profit 31
  • 32. Managing total risk most important during the day ╺ Risk management determines how many positions I have on ╺ Always ask: What is the worst that can happen today with my current positions? ╺ The biggest enemy of the strategy: Sudden and large moves in the market ╺ If several stop losses hit already, I will often tighten up remaining stop losses or wait before putting on new trades ╺ Especially aware of possibility of double stop losses ╺ Will sometimes add a call or put credit spread to adjust the total delta ╺ Never risk more than 1-2 % of total capital on a single day 32
  • 33. How I keep overview of the trades during the day 33 Combination of: ● Organizing trades into groups in Thinkorswim ● Continuously logging all trades in Excel - and greying out positions as the risk is removed ● Regular review of all positions and adjusting the stop losses
  • 34. Some of the risks with the strategy ╺ Double stop losses. Has happened in 3.7 % of the trades ╺ Bad fills. Can happen if the stop limit order is skipped ╺ Both the stop limit and the stop market order trigger at the same time. Can sometimes make the trade profitable ╺ Market makes a sudden move before you have set your stop loss order 34
  • 35. A great tool to use for monitoring is 0DTESPX.com 35 Developed by Iulian Constantin Constantinescu from the TastyTrade Options group
  • 36. My most important learning: Keep a trading log ╺ Find a way to log all your trades ╺ I log: Strikes, strategy, premium, closing of positions, total risk, gross and net profit, and more ╺ Find your way: BUT LOG YOUR TRADES! 36
  • 37. On the positive side ╺ Avoid the big losses ╺ Many seem to be able to make consistent profit in today’s market ╺ Different variations of the strategy depending on risk profile, etc. Summing up: Is this a strategy for you? On the negative side ╺ Time-consuming - with many trades throughout the day (night in Singapore) ╺ My style requires close attention to risk management ╺ You pay a lot in commissions (30 % of gross profits in my case) 37
  • 38. Moving on: Two steps I want to take in my trading 38
  • 39. Identify a set of 0DTE strategies that gives diversification 39
  • 40. Start with backtesting of different strategies 40
  • 41. Thanks! Any questions? You can find me at Sandvand.net Mail: john.einar@sandvand.net 41