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          A free land market will destroy the Ukrainian village
                                                   PUBLIC DEBATE BRIEF




                                                    April 26th, 2011
                                             Teacher’s House, Kiev, Ukraine
The Foundation for Effective Governance, in partnership with London-based Intelligence Squared, organized a recent
debate on the motion: “A free land market will destroy the Ukrainian village.” The debate was moderated by Mustafa
Nayem, a well-known Ukrainian Journalist.
In view of the world’s growing demand for food, Ukraine’s land resources are one of the country’s major competitive
advantages. However, this existing potential is largely unrealized. The World Bank estimates that Ukraine has the
capacity to double its grain production, and increase the value of its exports several times by selling processed
agricultural products rather than raw commodities. The absence of a land market hinders the transition to this state by
limiting the level of investment in the industry. However, lifting the moratorium on the sale of farmland may trigger
massive social dislocation.
The debate participants jointly concluded that a free land market would not resolve all of the current problems in
Ukrainian agriculture - like all developed countries, Ukraine must regulate its land relations, establish an effective
agricultural economy, and develop adequate social policy. Nevertheless, opponents of the motion maintained that a
land market would provide transparency in land relations that would primarily benefit the current land owners.
Speakers in favor of the motion, however, argued that Ukraine lacks the essential preconditions for an effective land
market. Polling showed a strong victory for the panel opposed to the motion: from an initial 34% they managed to
secure the support of 56% of the audience by the end of the debate.
This series of Public Debates serves as a social forum for the discussion of issues important to Ukraine’s economic
development. The project is designed to foster a culture of constructive and substantiated debate, and to assist in
forming an educated public consensus on the key economic challenges facing Ukraine.
                         Speakers FOR the motion Speakers AGAINST the motion
                                 Jozsef Popp                             Michel Tereshenko
           Director of the Research Institute of                         Descendant of the Ukrainian sugar tycoon
           Agricultural Economics in 2006-2008                           Mykola Tereshchenko (1819-1903) and
              Vice Dean of Debrecen University                           President of Ukraine-Agri, ATS Ukraine, and
                                       Hungary                           Linen of Desna (Ukraine-France)


                          Laura Rubchenko                                Viktor Pynzenyk
      Farmer, head of the LLC Gladkivschinskoe                           Former First Vice-Prime Minister of Ukraine,
                              grain-enterprise,                          former Minister of Finance
                                     Cherkassy


                        Leonid Kozachenko                                Volodymyr Lavrenchuk
                                                                         CEO of Raiffeisen Bank Aval
                     President of the Ukrainian
                        Agrarian Confederation
Key Statements
Joszef Popp: “Ukraine needs neither a moratorium nor a free         Michel Tereschenko: “Stop entrusting your land to leasers who
land market. Ukraine needs a national strategy on the land          exploit it until this land is exhausted. Lifting the moratorium
market” which will limit the sale of land to foreigners and         will help attract the world’s best investors, and they will make
provide social support to rural residents during the                Ukrainian fields yield as many crops as in Western countries.
transformation of agriculture into a more effective industry.       This will benefit all Ukrainians”.
Lora Rubchenko: “Now it is not the best time to launch a land       Victor Pynzenyk: “The Ukrainian village is starving for
market. We do not have proper legislation. The village is not       investments, land market is a necessary condition here, but not
ready for it psychologically. Moreover, it’s not absence of land    sufficient one. We also need to abolish export quotas and
market which hampers things, our main concern is the absence        develop a wholesale agricultural market. Moreover, selling
of an agricultural market. If the government put things in order    land to physical entities only is a way to cheat people, to shut
there, 80% of our problems would disappear”.                        down the market for investors and to urge profiteering”.
Leonid Kozachenko: “It is wrong to pass laws in a hurry. First      Volodymyr Lavrenchuk: “A land market is needed at least to
we must teach people how to use those laws. Otherwise               define a fair price for selling and leasing the land. Moreover, it
already in six months people will realize that they were            will increase a farmer’s chance to obtain a bank loan. Also if a
cheated. Moreover, Ukraine’s attractiveness for investors is        land owners did not prepare psychologically to the idea of a
very low now, and those who are ready to invest will hardly         land market during twenty years of independence, there is no
pay a good price for our land. We need at least two or three        way they will be ready in two or three years!”
more years to prepare”.

Q&A Session with the Audience
Q: “Who gave you the right to sell the Ukrainian land? The Ukrainian people did not give you this right”.
A: Victor Pynzenyk: “I am sure there are people in our society who prefer that the moratorium is lifted when the last plot of land is
sold out. We already witness this process. There are multiple legal loopholes which allow buying and selling of land. We humiliate
our people by branding them ‘economically illiterate’. Only by launching a free land market we will make a fair land price known
to our people”.
Q: “Why is there a moratorium for selling agricultural land to foreigners and corporations in Hungary?”
A: Joszef Popp: “In 1992 the government introduced the limitations which will remain until 2014. This happened because the
political parties need votes from the farm owners; we have 1.5 millions of farm owners and only 0.2 million of leasers. As a result,
managers of the corporations buy land in their own name”.
Q: “In those democratic countries that we refer to today, a land market is a rigid system of rules. What do you mean by ‘a free
land market’?”
A: Volodymyr Lavrenchuk: “In my opinion, a free land market is a situation when land is being sold and bought, but this market is
certainly strictly regulated. I am a supporter of a gradual approach. I would rather see a land market introduced stage by stage,
first as a pilot project, with all necessary limitations”.
 A: Viktor Pynzenyk: “So, do we need to regulate a land market? Yes, we do. Some things must remain under government control.
But it is important not to meddle in excessively. For example, all residents must have the right to buy land, including both physical
and legal entities”.

Voting Results


                                                     Further information and the video version of the debates
                                                                         are available on:
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                                                                               Tel: +380 44 501 41 00
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A free land market will destroy the Ukrainian village

  • 1. www.debaty.org A free land market will destroy the Ukrainian village PUBLIC DEBATE BRIEF April 26th, 2011 Teacher’s House, Kiev, Ukraine The Foundation for Effective Governance, in partnership with London-based Intelligence Squared, organized a recent debate on the motion: “A free land market will destroy the Ukrainian village.” The debate was moderated by Mustafa Nayem, a well-known Ukrainian Journalist. In view of the world’s growing demand for food, Ukraine’s land resources are one of the country’s major competitive advantages. However, this existing potential is largely unrealized. The World Bank estimates that Ukraine has the capacity to double its grain production, and increase the value of its exports several times by selling processed agricultural products rather than raw commodities. The absence of a land market hinders the transition to this state by limiting the level of investment in the industry. However, lifting the moratorium on the sale of farmland may trigger massive social dislocation. The debate participants jointly concluded that a free land market would not resolve all of the current problems in Ukrainian agriculture - like all developed countries, Ukraine must regulate its land relations, establish an effective agricultural economy, and develop adequate social policy. Nevertheless, opponents of the motion maintained that a land market would provide transparency in land relations that would primarily benefit the current land owners. Speakers in favor of the motion, however, argued that Ukraine lacks the essential preconditions for an effective land market. Polling showed a strong victory for the panel opposed to the motion: from an initial 34% they managed to secure the support of 56% of the audience by the end of the debate. This series of Public Debates serves as a social forum for the discussion of issues important to Ukraine’s economic development. The project is designed to foster a culture of constructive and substantiated debate, and to assist in forming an educated public consensus on the key economic challenges facing Ukraine. Speakers FOR the motion Speakers AGAINST the motion Jozsef Popp Michel Tereshenko Director of the Research Institute of Descendant of the Ukrainian sugar tycoon Agricultural Economics in 2006-2008 Mykola Tereshchenko (1819-1903) and Vice Dean of Debrecen University President of Ukraine-Agri, ATS Ukraine, and Hungary Linen of Desna (Ukraine-France) Laura Rubchenko Viktor Pynzenyk Farmer, head of the LLC Gladkivschinskoe Former First Vice-Prime Minister of Ukraine, grain-enterprise, former Minister of Finance Cherkassy Leonid Kozachenko Volodymyr Lavrenchuk CEO of Raiffeisen Bank Aval President of the Ukrainian Agrarian Confederation
  • 2. Key Statements Joszef Popp: “Ukraine needs neither a moratorium nor a free Michel Tereschenko: “Stop entrusting your land to leasers who land market. Ukraine needs a national strategy on the land exploit it until this land is exhausted. Lifting the moratorium market” which will limit the sale of land to foreigners and will help attract the world’s best investors, and they will make provide social support to rural residents during the Ukrainian fields yield as many crops as in Western countries. transformation of agriculture into a more effective industry. This will benefit all Ukrainians”. Lora Rubchenko: “Now it is not the best time to launch a land Victor Pynzenyk: “The Ukrainian village is starving for market. We do not have proper legislation. The village is not investments, land market is a necessary condition here, but not ready for it psychologically. Moreover, it’s not absence of land sufficient one. We also need to abolish export quotas and market which hampers things, our main concern is the absence develop a wholesale agricultural market. Moreover, selling of an agricultural market. If the government put things in order land to physical entities only is a way to cheat people, to shut there, 80% of our problems would disappear”. down the market for investors and to urge profiteering”. Leonid Kozachenko: “It is wrong to pass laws in a hurry. First Volodymyr Lavrenchuk: “A land market is needed at least to we must teach people how to use those laws. Otherwise define a fair price for selling and leasing the land. Moreover, it already in six months people will realize that they were will increase a farmer’s chance to obtain a bank loan. Also if a cheated. Moreover, Ukraine’s attractiveness for investors is land owners did not prepare psychologically to the idea of a very low now, and those who are ready to invest will hardly land market during twenty years of independence, there is no pay a good price for our land. We need at least two or three way they will be ready in two or three years!” more years to prepare”. Q&A Session with the Audience Q: “Who gave you the right to sell the Ukrainian land? The Ukrainian people did not give you this right”. A: Victor Pynzenyk: “I am sure there are people in our society who prefer that the moratorium is lifted when the last plot of land is sold out. We already witness this process. There are multiple legal loopholes which allow buying and selling of land. We humiliate our people by branding them ‘economically illiterate’. Only by launching a free land market we will make a fair land price known to our people”. Q: “Why is there a moratorium for selling agricultural land to foreigners and corporations in Hungary?” A: Joszef Popp: “In 1992 the government introduced the limitations which will remain until 2014. This happened because the political parties need votes from the farm owners; we have 1.5 millions of farm owners and only 0.2 million of leasers. As a result, managers of the corporations buy land in their own name”. Q: “In those democratic countries that we refer to today, a land market is a rigid system of rules. What do you mean by ‘a free land market’?” A: Volodymyr Lavrenchuk: “In my opinion, a free land market is a situation when land is being sold and bought, but this market is certainly strictly regulated. I am a supporter of a gradual approach. I would rather see a land market introduced stage by stage, first as a pilot project, with all necessary limitations”. A: Viktor Pynzenyk: “So, do we need to regulate a land market? Yes, we do. Some things must remain under government control. But it is important not to meddle in excessively. For example, all residents must have the right to buy land, including both physical and legal entities”. Voting Results Further information and the video version of the debates are available on: www.debaty.org and www.feg.org.ua FEG, 23-F Kudryavskaya st., Kiev, 04053, Ukraine Tel: +380 44 501 41 00 feg@feg.org.ua