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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG
‘Working together’
How the RIPE NCC and the
RIPE community can have a
productive relationship with
LEA
Now, the RIRs communities include
LEAs, Governments and
Regulators, we should embrace it,
not fight it
RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 3
Why are we here
• We have been dealing with LEA since 2008
when they reached out to us
• They wanted to understand what we did and
how we do it
• Since then we have had many interactions
with LEA, Governments and regulators all over
our service region
RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 4
So why did they?
• What is the RIPE data base
• What information does it have that MAY be
useful to LEA
• Training/Webinars on how to access that
information
• Workshops on the understanding of how the
internet works - transport layer
RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 5
So why the RIPE Database
• Public Internet resource and routing registry
database
- IP addresses, AS Numbers
- Contact information
- Reverse DNS delegations
- Routing policies
RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 6
Non-Public Data
• Only provided if a Dutch court order or other legally
binding order is presented by a Dutch LEA
• LEAs and other organisations operating outside of the
Netherlands are required to follow the mutual legal
assistance treaties (MLAT) procedures
• The RIPE NCC will evaluate each order
• If an order is considered illegal or of a non-obligatory
nature, the RIPE NCC will not comply and challenge it
https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-588
RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 7
LEA Request to the RIPE NCC
RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG
8
Since then
• Signed an MOU with Europol Dec 2017
• Member of the EC3 AG - Communications
• Member of Interpol’s Global Cybercrime
Expert Group
• Follow all discussions from the PSWG
• We are used as centre of excellence on
issues regarding IP addresses, CGN
discussions for example
9
The Internet Number Registries
RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 10
Quality of the Registration Data
• RIPE NCC does controls
- Before the registration
- After the registration
• Through contractual relationships
- Between the RIPE NCC and the LIRs
• Verifying compliance with RIPE policies
• Performing audits, Assisted Registry Check (ARCs)
• Changes must be supported with documentation
https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-657
RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 11
PDP 02-2017
The goal of this proposal is to give the
RIPE NCC a mandate to regularly validate
"abuse-c:" information and to follow up in
cases where the attribute is deemed to be
incorrect.
https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/
current-proposals/current-policy-proposals
RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 12
Timeline
Thank you

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  • 2. Now, the RIRs communities include LEAs, Governments and Regulators, we should embrace it, not fight it
  • 3. RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 3 Why are we here • We have been dealing with LEA since 2008 when they reached out to us • They wanted to understand what we did and how we do it • Since then we have had many interactions with LEA, Governments and regulators all over our service region
  • 4. RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 4 So why did they? • What is the RIPE data base • What information does it have that MAY be useful to LEA • Training/Webinars on how to access that information • Workshops on the understanding of how the internet works - transport layer
  • 5. RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 5 So why the RIPE Database • Public Internet resource and routing registry database - IP addresses, AS Numbers - Contact information - Reverse DNS delegations - Routing policies
  • 6. RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 6 Non-Public Data • Only provided if a Dutch court order or other legally binding order is presented by a Dutch LEA • LEAs and other organisations operating outside of the Netherlands are required to follow the mutual legal assistance treaties (MLAT) procedures • The RIPE NCC will evaluate each order • If an order is considered illegal or of a non-obligatory nature, the RIPE NCC will not comply and challenge it https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-588
  • 7. RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 7 LEA Request to the RIPE NCC
  • 8. RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 8 Since then • Signed an MOU with Europol Dec 2017 • Member of the EC3 AG - Communications • Member of Interpol’s Global Cybercrime Expert Group • Follow all discussions from the PSWG • We are used as centre of excellence on issues regarding IP addresses, CGN discussions for example
  • 10. RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 10 Quality of the Registration Data • RIPE NCC does controls - Before the registration - After the registration • Through contractual relationships - Between the RIPE NCC and the LIRs • Verifying compliance with RIPE policies • Performing audits, Assisted Registry Check (ARCs) • Changes must be supported with documentation https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-657
  • 11. RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 11 PDP 02-2017 The goal of this proposal is to give the RIPE NCC a mandate to regularly validate "abuse-c:" information and to follow up in cases where the attribute is deemed to be incorrect. https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/ current-proposals/current-policy-proposals
  • 12. RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 12 Timeline