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Women in Science and Engineering
The Greek Reality
Eleni Kaldoudi
Assistant Professor
School of Medicine
Democritus University of Thrace - Greece
kaldoudi@med.duth.gr
MEDICON 2010, Chalkidiki, Greece, May 27-30, 2010
women in ancient Greece
although there are considerable differences
(and remarkable exceptions) across the ancient greek world,
women were mostly
 restrained at home
 under the oppression of men (father, then husband)
 not allowed to participate in social and political activities
 solely intended for child bearing
however…
women in ancient Greece
 equal men/women representation
in the
Greek pantheon
 strong women involvement in
philosophy and mathematics
women in ancient greece
philosophers/mathematicians (10th
c. BC – 4th
c. AC)
 Αίθρα – mathematics & accounting
 Πολυγνώτη - geometry
 Θεμιστόκλεια – geometry (Delphi priestess, Pythagoras’ teacher)
 Θεανώ – theory of numbers (Pythagoras’ wife)
 Δαμώ, Αριγνώτη, Μυία, Δεινώ, Ελορίς, Φίντυς, Μέλισσα, Τυμίχα, Πτολεμαϊς,
Διοτίμα, Βιτάλη, ...
 Περικτιόνη – philosophy, mathematics (Plato’s mother)
 Λασθένεια, Αξιοθέα, Νικαρέτη, Αρετή, Πυθαϊς, Πάνδροσος, …
Greece today
still a patriarchical society, but
 socially
 continuous improvements due to women’s obligatory education
and socio-economic development
 legally
 no specific gender mainstreaming
 law on equal treatment requires a minimum of 1/3 of each sex to
be represented in all decision-making bodies
 on the basis of specific initiatives
 considerably more than 100 societies dealing with gender
equality and related issues
some specific initiatives
1924 The Hellenic Association of University Women (SEE).
http://www.see1924.gr/
1994 Research Center for Gender Equality
http://www.kethi.gr
1995 EDEM - Greek Women’s Engineering Association http://www.edem-
net.gr/
a member of WiTEC – European Association for Women in Science, Engineering and
Technology
2004 Periktioni: A Women Researchers Network in Greece
http://www.gsrt.gr/default.asp?V_ITEM_ID=4665
Greece today – some facts
 women undergraduate university students
 1970: ~30%
 2000: ~59%
 women undergraduates university students
Natural Sciences Engineering
 1971: 20%  1971: 6%
 1997: 43%  1997: 25%
 women in ‘scientific professions’
 1960: ~4%
 1990: ~20%
Women and Science: A National Report (Greece), Greek Ministry of Development, March 2002
statistical survey in Greece (2006)
 by the Periktioni Network
General Secretariat for Research & Technology
Ministry of Development
 2.239 women researchers in 50 research institutions
 34% replies (757 replies)
 quantitative survey
 success stories (qualitative survey)
statistical survey in Greece (2006)
statistical survey in Greece (2006)
women distribution in academic/research ranks
statistical survey in Greece (2006)
statistical survey in Greece (2006)
have you been appointed as a
national representative in EU
and/or national research
committees ?
no
yes
statistical survey in Greece (2006)
statistical survey in Greece (2006)
summary of qualitative results
 factors that inhibit a research career
 lack of adequate infrastructure
 lack of meritocracy
 no direct reference to gender discrimination
at the workplace – indirect reference only by older women
 the majority reports very good working relationships
with male colleagues
 more than 50% face problems related to family commitments
statistical survey in Greece (2006)
summary of suggested actions
 emphasis on education
 increase support for motherhood and child care
 establishment and activation of related societies & organizations
 clear rules in the workplace
 public dissemination and awareness activities
some figures for year 2004
Greece
EU-15
mean
EU
max
EU
min
women graduates in
tertiary education
62% 59%
77%
Cyprus
30%
Bosnia & H.
women graduates in
engineering,
manufacturing &
construction
45% 26% 45%
Greece
13%
Netherlands &
Switzerland
women Grade A professors
11% 13% 29%
Romania
8%
Ireland
>
E. Ruest-Archambault et al, Benchmarking Policy Measures for Gender Equality in Science, January 2008,
EUR 23314, European Communities, Belgium 2008, DOI 10.2777/55449
women
men
so, where do we really stand?
high rank academic/research posts
decision making bodies
management
national representative committees
…
we are here!!!
and right next to us….
currently in Greece
 women scientists in Greece
 seem to be rather happy from their work environment
 although they report facing difficulties mainly due to motherhood
and lack of meritocracy
 figures show that
 women are well represented (even overrepresented) in
undergraduate studies, better than the EU mean
 there is a lower representation in science and engineering,
however, Greece is doing better that the EU-15
 women are poorly represented in higher academic ranks and
decision making bodies
need to enhance
 women’s participation in
 high rank academic/research posts
 decision making bodies
 management
 national representative committees
 …
 legislation and streamlining for clear rules, meritocracy, infrastructure
issues raised during discussion
 involve men!!!
 try to find men who can help
 ask men to present the problem
 bring more women in science
 study how to approach them
 mentoring – at a personal level
 women should ask for their rights
 rights are not given – rights are taken

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Women in Ancient Greece Science

  • 1. Women in Science and Engineering The Greek Reality Eleni Kaldoudi Assistant Professor School of Medicine Democritus University of Thrace - Greece kaldoudi@med.duth.gr MEDICON 2010, Chalkidiki, Greece, May 27-30, 2010
  • 2. women in ancient Greece although there are considerable differences (and remarkable exceptions) across the ancient greek world, women were mostly  restrained at home  under the oppression of men (father, then husband)  not allowed to participate in social and political activities  solely intended for child bearing however…
  • 3. women in ancient Greece  equal men/women representation in the Greek pantheon  strong women involvement in philosophy and mathematics
  • 4. women in ancient greece philosophers/mathematicians (10th c. BC – 4th c. AC)  Αίθρα – mathematics & accounting  Πολυγνώτη - geometry  Θεμιστόκλεια – geometry (Delphi priestess, Pythagoras’ teacher)  Θεανώ – theory of numbers (Pythagoras’ wife)  Δαμώ, Αριγνώτη, Μυία, Δεινώ, Ελορίς, Φίντυς, Μέλισσα, Τυμίχα, Πτολεμαϊς, Διοτίμα, Βιτάλη, ...  Περικτιόνη – philosophy, mathematics (Plato’s mother)  Λασθένεια, Αξιοθέα, Νικαρέτη, Αρετή, Πυθαϊς, Πάνδροσος, …
  • 5. Greece today still a patriarchical society, but  socially  continuous improvements due to women’s obligatory education and socio-economic development  legally  no specific gender mainstreaming  law on equal treatment requires a minimum of 1/3 of each sex to be represented in all decision-making bodies  on the basis of specific initiatives  considerably more than 100 societies dealing with gender equality and related issues
  • 6. some specific initiatives 1924 The Hellenic Association of University Women (SEE). http://www.see1924.gr/ 1994 Research Center for Gender Equality http://www.kethi.gr 1995 EDEM - Greek Women’s Engineering Association http://www.edem- net.gr/ a member of WiTEC – European Association for Women in Science, Engineering and Technology 2004 Periktioni: A Women Researchers Network in Greece http://www.gsrt.gr/default.asp?V_ITEM_ID=4665
  • 7. Greece today – some facts  women undergraduate university students  1970: ~30%  2000: ~59%  women undergraduates university students Natural Sciences Engineering  1971: 20%  1971: 6%  1997: 43%  1997: 25%  women in ‘scientific professions’  1960: ~4%  1990: ~20% Women and Science: A National Report (Greece), Greek Ministry of Development, March 2002
  • 8. statistical survey in Greece (2006)  by the Periktioni Network General Secretariat for Research & Technology Ministry of Development  2.239 women researchers in 50 research institutions  34% replies (757 replies)  quantitative survey  success stories (qualitative survey)
  • 9. statistical survey in Greece (2006)
  • 10. statistical survey in Greece (2006) women distribution in academic/research ranks
  • 11. statistical survey in Greece (2006)
  • 12. statistical survey in Greece (2006) have you been appointed as a national representative in EU and/or national research committees ? no yes
  • 13. statistical survey in Greece (2006)
  • 14. statistical survey in Greece (2006) summary of qualitative results  factors that inhibit a research career  lack of adequate infrastructure  lack of meritocracy  no direct reference to gender discrimination at the workplace – indirect reference only by older women  the majority reports very good working relationships with male colleagues  more than 50% face problems related to family commitments
  • 15. statistical survey in Greece (2006) summary of suggested actions  emphasis on education  increase support for motherhood and child care  establishment and activation of related societies & organizations  clear rules in the workplace  public dissemination and awareness activities
  • 16. some figures for year 2004 Greece EU-15 mean EU max EU min women graduates in tertiary education 62% 59% 77% Cyprus 30% Bosnia & H. women graduates in engineering, manufacturing & construction 45% 26% 45% Greece 13% Netherlands & Switzerland women Grade A professors 11% 13% 29% Romania 8% Ireland > E. Ruest-Archambault et al, Benchmarking Policy Measures for Gender Equality in Science, January 2008, EUR 23314, European Communities, Belgium 2008, DOI 10.2777/55449
  • 18. so, where do we really stand?
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  • 21. high rank academic/research posts decision making bodies management national representative committees … we are here!!! and right next to us….
  • 22. currently in Greece  women scientists in Greece  seem to be rather happy from their work environment  although they report facing difficulties mainly due to motherhood and lack of meritocracy  figures show that  women are well represented (even overrepresented) in undergraduate studies, better than the EU mean  there is a lower representation in science and engineering, however, Greece is doing better that the EU-15  women are poorly represented in higher academic ranks and decision making bodies
  • 23. need to enhance  women’s participation in  high rank academic/research posts  decision making bodies  management  national representative committees  …  legislation and streamlining for clear rules, meritocracy, infrastructure
  • 24. issues raised during discussion  involve men!!!  try to find men who can help  ask men to present the problem  bring more women in science  study how to approach them  mentoring – at a personal level  women should ask for their rights  rights are not given – rights are taken

Editor's Notes

  1. NACE stastical classification of economic activities
  2. Some figures that indicate where Greece stands against EU for year 2004 women in greece are the 62% of university graduates, a figure higher than the EU mean women in greece are the 45% of graduates in engineering, manufacturing and construction – this is much above the EU mean and is actually the maximum for the EU countries however, women in greece are only the 11% of Grade A professors, a figure rather disappointing, although not much different from the rest of EU countris