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5 Things the Music Business
Can Learn From

Presented by:

Kristina Wallender, Ticketfly
December 2013

@kwallender
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Amazon HQ: Seattle, WA

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Working at Amazon

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So what can we learn
from Amazon?

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Lessons from Amazon
1. Obsess over customers
2. Create a loyalty program
3. Invest for the long term
4. Never stop experimenting
5. Use technology to your advantage

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Lesson #1:

Obsess over customers

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1 The empty chair
#1

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1 Personalize the experience
#1

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1 Personalize the experience

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1 Invite customer reviews
#1

“We don’t make money when we sell things.
We make money when we help customers make
purchase decisions.” – Jeff Bezos

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1 Invite customer reviews
#1

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1 Invite customer reviews
#1
And listen

“Until you listen, you can’t make real change” – Nic Adler

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1 Offer incredible value
#1

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1

Offer incredible value

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1 Deliver on promises

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1 Deliver on promises

ACL EXAMPLE

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1 Use data to make decisions
#1

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1 Use data to make decisions
#1

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1 Use data to make decisions
#1

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1 Use data to make decisions
#1

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Lesson #2:

Create a loyalty program

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2 Cultivate Loyalty
#2
A loyalty program, not a shipping program

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2 Cultivate loyalty

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2 Encourage Super Consumers
#2

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2 Encourage Super Consumers
What is the most lucrative song ever written?

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2 Encourage Super Consumers
Ticketfly Fanbase

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2 Encourage Super Consumers
Ticketfly Fanbase

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Lesson #3:

Invest for the long term

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3
#3

Do the long term math

When you do the short term math on Prime, it always
tells you not to do it.” – Jeff Bezos

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3 Do the long term math

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3 Do the long term math
No refunds?

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3 Invest for the future

“Future orientation is our sustainable
competitive advantage” – Jeff Bezos

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3 Invest for the future

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3 Base your strategy on what doesn’t change
“I very frequently get the question: ‘what’s going to
change in the next 10 years?’
I almost never get the question: ‘what’s NOT going to
change in the next 10 years?’
That is the far more important question” – Jeff Bezos

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3 Amazon’s strategy
Advertisers
Lower Cost
Structure

Selection

Sellers

Growth

Lower Prices

Customer
Experience

Traffic
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Lesson #4:

Never stop experimenting

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4 Experiments in progress
#4

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4 Experiments in progress

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4 Learn from your mistakes
#4
“If you want to be inventive, you have to be willing to
fail.” – Jeff Bezos

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4 Learn from your mistakes

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4 Test and measure
#4

A

B

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4 Test and measure

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Lesson #5:

Use technology to
your advantage

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5 Automate tasks
#5
“ Don’t let humans do things technology can do better” –
Jeff Wilke, Head of Retail

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5 Automate tasks

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5 Hire technology platforms & robots
#5

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5 Hire technology platforms & robots
#5

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Lessons from Amazon
1. Obsess over customers
2. Create a loyalty program
3. Invest for the long term
4. Never stop experimenting
5. Use technology to your advantage

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Questions for the audience
A. How else might Amazon’s lessons be applied to the
music industry? Who is doing it well?
1. Obsess over customers
2. Create a loyalty program
3. Invest for the long term
4. Never stop experimenting
5. Use technology to your advantage

B. Are there any other lessons we can learn from
Amazon?
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Thank you!

@kwallender
@ticketfly
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  • 1. 5 Things the Music Business Can Learn From Presented by: Kristina Wallender, Ticketfly December 2013 @kwallender AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL
  • 2. Amazon HQ: Seattle, WA AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 2
  • 3. Working at Amazon AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 3
  • 4. So what can we learn from Amazon? AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 4
  • 5. Lessons from Amazon 1. Obsess over customers 2. Create a loyalty program 3. Invest for the long term 4. Never stop experimenting 5. Use technology to your advantage AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 5
  • 6. Lesson #1: Obsess over customers AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 6
  • 7. 1 The empty chair #1 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 7
  • 8. 1 Personalize the experience #1 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 8
  • 9. 1 Personalize the experience AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 9
  • 10. 1 Invite customer reviews #1 “We don’t make money when we sell things. We make money when we help customers make purchase decisions.” – Jeff Bezos 10 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL
  • 11. 1 Invite customer reviews #1 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 11
  • 12. 1 Invite customer reviews #1 And listen “Until you listen, you can’t make real change” – Nic Adler AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 12
  • 13. 1 Offer incredible value #1 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 13
  • 14. 1 Offer incredible value AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 14
  • 15. 1 Deliver on promises AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 15
  • 16. 1 Deliver on promises ACL EXAMPLE AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 16
  • 17. 1 Use data to make decisions #1 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 17
  • 18. 1 Use data to make decisions #1 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 18
  • 19. 1 Use data to make decisions #1 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 19
  • 20. 1 Use data to make decisions #1 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 20
  • 21. Lesson #2: Create a loyalty program AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 21
  • 22. 2 Cultivate Loyalty #2 A loyalty program, not a shipping program AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 22
  • 23. 2 Cultivate loyalty AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 23
  • 24. 2 Encourage Super Consumers #2 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 24
  • 25. 2 Encourage Super Consumers What is the most lucrative song ever written? AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 25
  • 26. 2 Encourage Super Consumers Ticketfly Fanbase AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 26
  • 27. 2 Encourage Super Consumers Ticketfly Fanbase AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 27
  • 28. Lesson #3: Invest for the long term AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 28
  • 29. 3 #3 Do the long term math When you do the short term math on Prime, it always tells you not to do it.” – Jeff Bezos AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 29
  • 30. 3 Do the long term math AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 30
  • 31. 3 Do the long term math No refunds? AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 31
  • 32. 3 Invest for the future “Future orientation is our sustainable competitive advantage” – Jeff Bezos AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 32
  • 33. 3 Invest for the future AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 33
  • 34. 3 Base your strategy on what doesn’t change “I very frequently get the question: ‘what’s going to change in the next 10 years?’ I almost never get the question: ‘what’s NOT going to change in the next 10 years?’ That is the far more important question” – Jeff Bezos AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 34
  • 35. 3 Amazon’s strategy Advertisers Lower Cost Structure Selection Sellers Growth Lower Prices Customer Experience Traffic AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 35
  • 36. Lesson #4: Never stop experimenting AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 36
  • 37. 4 Experiments in progress #4 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 37
  • 38. 4 Experiments in progress AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 38
  • 39. 4 Learn from your mistakes #4 “If you want to be inventive, you have to be willing to fail.” – Jeff Bezos AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 39
  • 40. 4 Learn from your mistakes AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 40
  • 41. 4 Test and measure #4 A B AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 41
  • 42. 4 Test and measure AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 42
  • 43. Lesson #5: Use technology to your advantage AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 43
  • 44. 5 Automate tasks #5 “ Don’t let humans do things technology can do better” – Jeff Wilke, Head of Retail AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 44
  • 45. 5 Automate tasks AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 45
  • 46. 5 Hire technology platforms & robots #5 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 46
  • 47. 5 Hire technology platforms & robots #5 AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 47
  • 48. Lessons from Amazon 1. Obsess over customers 2. Create a loyalty program 3. Invest for the long term 4. Never stop experimenting 5. Use technology to your advantage AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 48
  • 49. Questions for the audience A. How else might Amazon’s lessons be applied to the music industry? Who is doing it well? 1. Obsess over customers 2. Create a loyalty program 3. Invest for the long term 4. Never stop experimenting 5. Use technology to your advantage B. Are there any other lessons we can learn from Amazon? AMAZON SERVICES CONFIDENTIAL 49