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GEODETIC
ENGINEERS OF
THE
PHILIPPINES
INC.
(ISSUES,
ISSUE - SURVEY AUTHORITY
2
CONCERNS GEP POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS DENR V LEGAL BASIS
DELAYED
Issuance by concerned
CENRO/PENRO
Report preparation of concerned
investigator/LMI must be enhanced
For clarification with GEP
Orientation of newly hired/promoted
LMI/investigator
Semestral Orientation to be conducted
Survey Authority issued lapses after 6
months even if it is due to delay in the
processing and approval of plan by
DENR
Once submitted within 6-month period
and approval was after the 6-month
period after submittal, the survey
authority must not be considered
lapsed
Survey returns must be in order
Lapsed Survey Authority
It only lapses when submitted after 6
months from receipt by the Geodetic
Engineer from the issuing CENRO or
PENRO – meaning it lapses in the
hands of the Geodetic Engineer
DENR will not accept Survey returns
with incomplete requirements
RETURNED TO GE:
- If not rejected in the system,
continue IVAS
- If already rejected, secure
confirmatory report within sixty (60)
days
- If more than sixty (60) days after
rejection in the system, secure new
ISSUE – GRAPHICAL AND NUMERICAL SURVEYS
3
CONCERNS GEP POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS DENR V LEGAL BASIS
SUBDIVISION
Surveys within this project are required
verification surveys to conform to the
graphical even if the numerical survey
data is used.
Since the numerical survey was
conducted after 10-15 years after
approval of the graphical survey, so many
changes (area, claimant, shape) had
occurred, hence conformity to the
graphical survey must not be required.
MEMORANDUM CIRCULAR NO. 2010-
13
“Adoption of the Manual on Land
Survey Procedures”
ARTICLE 4 – GRAPHICAL CADASTRE
B. All graphical cadastral lots previously
converted into numerical cadastral lots
and were approved, whether titled or not,
shall be reflected in the Cadastral Maps.
However, the provisions on the BAP and
PIS shall not be applied;
C. The lot numbers in the Graphical
Cadastre shall be adopted in the
Numerical Cadastre as far as possible;
D. If the graphical lot is subdivided into
two or more lots, one lot will retain the
original lot number and the other lot will
be assigned the highest lot number
indicating below the original graphical lot
number as a portion of the original lot.
They said subdivision is only allowed
ISSUE – SURVEY RETURNS ON TITLED LOTS
4
CONCERNS GEP POSSIBLE
SOLUTIONS
DENR V LEGAL BASIS
Certified Copy of title lapses
after 3 months from issuance
by the Register of Deeds
If the survey was conducted
after issuance of the certified
copy of title and submitted
within the 3-month
reglementary period but
processing and approval took
more then 3-months, we
Geodetic Engineers must not
be required to submit another
certified copy of title
Provided however that the
survey returns is in order. No
pending letter for compliance.
If already rejected in the
system, submit new certified
copy.
Requirement of certified copy
of previous approved plan for
reference
Since the DENR has all
records of the approved plan,
this requirement must be
dispensed with except for
GEP to request for
amendment to LMB.
ISSUE – AUTHORITY TO PRINT
5
CONCERNS GEP POSSIBLE
SOLUTIONS
DENR V LEGAL BASIS
The association is
requesting to hold
abeyance this
requirement the same
has been relaxed by the
LMB Director until
December 21, 2021
The action of the LMB
Director is yet to be
received by the
requesting Association
With letter reply dated
September 21, 2021
received by GEP dated
October 07, 2021 (Refer
to next slides)
Refer to DENR
ADMINISTRATIVE
ORDER NO. 2016-07 -
“DENR Manual of
Authorities on
6
7
ISSUE – RENEWAL OF INSTRUMENTS REGISTRATION AND
PROFESSIONAL ID’S
8
CONCERNS GEP POSSIBLE
SOLUTIONS
DENR V LEGAL BASIS
This item may not be complied
with right away during this
pandemic
Relaxed this requirement until
December 31, 2021 since the
same was given moratorium
by the LMB Director and PRC
cannot immediately renew
PRC licenses within the month
of its expiration
Please refer to MC NO. 2010-
13
“Adoption of the Manual on
Land Survey Procedures”
Chapter X
DENR ADMINISTRATIVE
ORDER NO. 2016-07
“DENR Manual of Authorities
on Technical Matters”
- Original Certificate of
Registration and renewal of
survey instrument is the LMB
Director
0
200
400
600
800
1,000
1,200
1,400
1,600
1,800
2,000
UNIVERSE TARGET APPROVED REJECTED RETURNED TO
G.E.
IN PROCESS
1,876 ENV
900 ENV 919 ENV 102.11%
427 ENV 22.76%
301 ENV 16.04%
230 ENV 12.26%
LAMS-IVAS OVERALL STATUS
(as of November 11, 2021; Total 1,876 Envelopes)

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REVISED-FINAL-GEP-PRESENTATION-1.pptx

  • 2. ISSUE - SURVEY AUTHORITY 2 CONCERNS GEP POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS DENR V LEGAL BASIS DELAYED Issuance by concerned CENRO/PENRO Report preparation of concerned investigator/LMI must be enhanced For clarification with GEP Orientation of newly hired/promoted LMI/investigator Semestral Orientation to be conducted Survey Authority issued lapses after 6 months even if it is due to delay in the processing and approval of plan by DENR Once submitted within 6-month period and approval was after the 6-month period after submittal, the survey authority must not be considered lapsed Survey returns must be in order Lapsed Survey Authority It only lapses when submitted after 6 months from receipt by the Geodetic Engineer from the issuing CENRO or PENRO – meaning it lapses in the hands of the Geodetic Engineer DENR will not accept Survey returns with incomplete requirements RETURNED TO GE: - If not rejected in the system, continue IVAS - If already rejected, secure confirmatory report within sixty (60) days - If more than sixty (60) days after rejection in the system, secure new
  • 3. ISSUE – GRAPHICAL AND NUMERICAL SURVEYS 3 CONCERNS GEP POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS DENR V LEGAL BASIS SUBDIVISION Surveys within this project are required verification surveys to conform to the graphical even if the numerical survey data is used. Since the numerical survey was conducted after 10-15 years after approval of the graphical survey, so many changes (area, claimant, shape) had occurred, hence conformity to the graphical survey must not be required. MEMORANDUM CIRCULAR NO. 2010- 13 “Adoption of the Manual on Land Survey Procedures” ARTICLE 4 – GRAPHICAL CADASTRE B. All graphical cadastral lots previously converted into numerical cadastral lots and were approved, whether titled or not, shall be reflected in the Cadastral Maps. However, the provisions on the BAP and PIS shall not be applied; C. The lot numbers in the Graphical Cadastre shall be adopted in the Numerical Cadastre as far as possible; D. If the graphical lot is subdivided into two or more lots, one lot will retain the original lot number and the other lot will be assigned the highest lot number indicating below the original graphical lot number as a portion of the original lot. They said subdivision is only allowed
  • 4. ISSUE – SURVEY RETURNS ON TITLED LOTS 4 CONCERNS GEP POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS DENR V LEGAL BASIS Certified Copy of title lapses after 3 months from issuance by the Register of Deeds If the survey was conducted after issuance of the certified copy of title and submitted within the 3-month reglementary period but processing and approval took more then 3-months, we Geodetic Engineers must not be required to submit another certified copy of title Provided however that the survey returns is in order. No pending letter for compliance. If already rejected in the system, submit new certified copy. Requirement of certified copy of previous approved plan for reference Since the DENR has all records of the approved plan, this requirement must be dispensed with except for GEP to request for amendment to LMB.
  • 5. ISSUE – AUTHORITY TO PRINT 5 CONCERNS GEP POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS DENR V LEGAL BASIS The association is requesting to hold abeyance this requirement the same has been relaxed by the LMB Director until December 21, 2021 The action of the LMB Director is yet to be received by the requesting Association With letter reply dated September 21, 2021 received by GEP dated October 07, 2021 (Refer to next slides) Refer to DENR ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER NO. 2016-07 - “DENR Manual of Authorities on
  • 6. 6
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  • 8. ISSUE – RENEWAL OF INSTRUMENTS REGISTRATION AND PROFESSIONAL ID’S 8 CONCERNS GEP POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS DENR V LEGAL BASIS This item may not be complied with right away during this pandemic Relaxed this requirement until December 31, 2021 since the same was given moratorium by the LMB Director and PRC cannot immediately renew PRC licenses within the month of its expiration Please refer to MC NO. 2010- 13 “Adoption of the Manual on Land Survey Procedures” Chapter X DENR ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER NO. 2016-07 “DENR Manual of Authorities on Technical Matters” - Original Certificate of Registration and renewal of survey instrument is the LMB Director
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  • 16. 0 200 400 600 800 1,000 1,200 1,400 1,600 1,800 2,000 UNIVERSE TARGET APPROVED REJECTED RETURNED TO G.E. IN PROCESS 1,876 ENV 900 ENV 919 ENV 102.11% 427 ENV 22.76% 301 ENV 16.04% 230 ENV 12.26% LAMS-IVAS OVERALL STATUS (as of November 11, 2021; Total 1,876 Envelopes)