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Welsh Nonconformist Records Malad Welsh Festival 2011
1821 diary of David Davies 6 Feb 1821 I entered into a club at Mynyddbach which began the 1st of January.
1821 diary of David Davies 25 Feb 1821 (Sunday) Baran is a neat little meeting house on top of a high lofty mountain, up towards Llangiwc but Alltwen is an ugly cottage of a meeting house… 27 Feb I was rebuked very bad for going astray to Baran &.
Nonconformity Nonconformity had the greatest influence on the spiritual and social life of Wales By the mid nineteenth century 80% of the population were nonconformists Before 1689 and the Toleration Act nonconformity was illegal so few records were kept
Nonconformity The church was unable to cater to the spiritual needs and growth of the population Nonconformity offered religion in the Welsh language
Growth of  Welsh Nonconformity
Many records have not been deposited. About 5,500 chapels existed in Wales but less than thirty per cent of the registers have been deposited at a record office
Fate of Nonconformist Records No record made 	Records may have been lost 	The records may still be with the chapel 	Families traveled a considerable distance to worship & may not appear where you expect!!!
Finding Nonconformist Records
Standard reference source Guide to available registers of christenings, marriages and burials 5,500 chapels existed in Wales but less than 30% of the registers have been deposited at a record office
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Reference tool deficiencies Only christening/baptism, marriage and burial records are listed in Nonconformist Registers of Wales. Itwas published in 1994 and does not list records deposited since that date. Only 1350 of 5500 congregations had deposited registers. The 1851 religious census does not identify record availability or congregations started after 1851. Archives Network Wales does not cover all repositories of Welsh nonconformist records.  Template 007.ppt  16
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Genealogical Proof Standard 	The Board for Certification of Genealogists®have identified five elements that contribute to acceptable conclusions in genealogical research. 	First in their list is: “a reasonably exhaustive search”.  It is difficult for most Welsh family historians to know what an exhaustive search is when it comes to nonconformist records due to incomplete reference guides and scattered resources.
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Glamorgan Nonconformist Records
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Transfer certificates
Denominational magazines Baptist Calvinistic Methodist  Congregationalist Calvinistic Methodist SerenGomer Y Drysorfa Y Cenhadwr Americanaidd Y Cyfaill
Denominational magazines Search 1st on Google Books Search for the following vital event terms Bu Farw (died) Priododd Marwolaeth (death) Bywgraffiad (biography) Esgorodd/esgoreddfa/eogoriad (birthplace)
Obituary in Y Cenhadwr Americanaidd, 1875, page 202-203 Last April in Y Cenhadwr there was a notice* of the death of EVAN HOWELL. He was born in 1801 in a place called Penlan, Llangiwc Parish, Glamorganishre, South Wales. He was the son of John and Mary Howell, Pyllfa Watkin, Llangefelech, Glamorganshire, South Wales.  He married Jane Howell, the daughter of Howell and Mary Howell, Gelli-lwca-her [Jane's] death was noted in Y Cenhadwr about two years ago. He was received into church membership, as one of thirty, at Baran under the ministry of the Rev. Roger Howells in 1829.
He and his wife immigrated to America from Ty'r Cwm, near Gelli-lwca, in 1832. They settled in Bradford where they stayed until the grave.  Their two children were born in Wales and are in comfortable circumstances in Bradford. Evan Howell was one of the pillars of fire of the religious cause here since landing here.  His brother Wm. Howell is still with us, the only one of six children.
Strategies for Success 	Search the National Burial Index compact disc. This database includes 265 thousand entries for Wales (Glamorganshire, Cardiganshire, Radnorshire, Monmouthshire, and Montgomeryshire) 	Search for burials at the parish church. Nonconformist chapels seldom had their own burial ground before 1800 	Search monumental inscriptions
Monumental Inscriptions Monumental inscriptions fill some gaps in the missing records. About three people named per stone
71. In Memory of/ Rachel/ Daughter of John Jones/ Ynisderw In This Parish/ Who Died October 9, 1837/ Aged 26 Years/ Also the Above Named/ John Jones/ Who Died June 26, 1851/ Aged 76 Years/ Also Hannah Wife Of/ The Above John Jones/ Who Died February 14, 1860/ Aged 82 Years/  Also of John Williams Grandson of The Above/ John & Hannah Jones/ Who Died June 5, 1892 Aged 59 Years/ Also in Memory of Lewis Williams/ His Brother/ Who died At/ Carbondale U.S.A./ June 25, 1892/ Aged 57 Years/ Interred At/ Carbondale/ Cemetery
Baran Chapel Monumental Inscriptions
Strategies for Success 	Search christening, burial and monumental inscription records within a fifteen mile radius of where your ancestors lived.
Strategies for Success Utilize histories about the: Chapel Area Denomination
About this time, Wil Hopkin came to live in the area and he was instrumental in persuading the few brothers in the neighbourhood to form a prayer meeting on Sunday evenings.  The names of the ones who joined in the good work with W. Hopkin were Howell Llewellyn, Evan Howell, Job Morgan and his son, Thomas Howell, Llewellyn William and Dafydd Morgan; and soon after that Owen Evans joined them.  There were also some excellent ladies such as Catherine Lloyd, Margaret Edwards and the wife of Hopkin Harry.
Strategy for Success Learn about the chapel pedigree
Strategies for Success Search the Historical Manuscripts Commission National Register of Archives web site for information on recently deposited  records. Do a “Place Name”search http://www.nra.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/
The International Genealogical Index for Wales Pre 1813 extractions are based on the assumption that everyone used patronymics. 	Post 1812 extractions are based on the 	assumption that no one used patronymics. 	A small percentage of church and chapel records have been extracted.
Analysis of Extracted Welsh Records There are about 1,200 parish churches in Wales There were about 5,500 nonconformist chapels in Wales There should be about 6,700 registers of church/chapel records for Wales About 1,408 registers have been extracted for Wales (based on findings for Glamorgan)
Analysis of Extracted Welsh Records Conclusion Less than 21% of the church and chapel records for Wales have been extracted for the IGI
Strategies for Success with theInternational Genealogical Index for Wales  Search by given name for christenings before 1813 Search by surname for christenings after 1812 Use the IGI as a starting point but never expect it to represent a high percentage of the population Always examine the original record

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Welsh nonconformist records

  • 1. Welsh Nonconformist Records Malad Welsh Festival 2011
  • 2. 1821 diary of David Davies 6 Feb 1821 I entered into a club at Mynyddbach which began the 1st of January.
  • 3. 1821 diary of David Davies 25 Feb 1821 (Sunday) Baran is a neat little meeting house on top of a high lofty mountain, up towards Llangiwc but Alltwen is an ugly cottage of a meeting house… 27 Feb I was rebuked very bad for going astray to Baran &.
  • 4. Nonconformity Nonconformity had the greatest influence on the spiritual and social life of Wales By the mid nineteenth century 80% of the population were nonconformists Before 1689 and the Toleration Act nonconformity was illegal so few records were kept
  • 5. Nonconformity The church was unable to cater to the spiritual needs and growth of the population Nonconformity offered religion in the Welsh language
  • 6. Growth of Welsh Nonconformity
  • 7. Many records have not been deposited. About 5,500 chapels existed in Wales but less than thirty per cent of the registers have been deposited at a record office
  • 8. Fate of Nonconformist Records No record made Records may have been lost The records may still be with the chapel Families traveled a considerable distance to worship & may not appear where you expect!!!
  • 10. Standard reference source Guide to available registers of christenings, marriages and burials 5,500 chapels existed in Wales but less than 30% of the registers have been deposited at a record office
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  • 16. Reference tool deficiencies Only christening/baptism, marriage and burial records are listed in Nonconformist Registers of Wales. Itwas published in 1994 and does not list records deposited since that date. Only 1350 of 5500 congregations had deposited registers. The 1851 religious census does not identify record availability or congregations started after 1851. Archives Network Wales does not cover all repositories of Welsh nonconformist records. Template 007.ppt 16
  • 17. Reference sources leave records out of reach Template 007.ppt 17
  • 18. Genealogical Proof Standard The Board for Certification of Genealogists®have identified five elements that contribute to acceptable conclusions in genealogical research. First in their list is: “a reasonably exhaustive search”. It is difficult for most Welsh family historians to know what an exhaustive search is when it comes to nonconformist records due to incomplete reference guides and scattered resources.
  • 20. FamilySearch Research Wiki Template 007.ppt 20
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  • 32. Denominational magazines Baptist Calvinistic Methodist Congregationalist Calvinistic Methodist SerenGomer Y Drysorfa Y Cenhadwr Americanaidd Y Cyfaill
  • 33. Denominational magazines Search 1st on Google Books Search for the following vital event terms Bu Farw (died) Priododd Marwolaeth (death) Bywgraffiad (biography) Esgorodd/esgoreddfa/eogoriad (birthplace)
  • 34. Obituary in Y Cenhadwr Americanaidd, 1875, page 202-203 Last April in Y Cenhadwr there was a notice* of the death of EVAN HOWELL. He was born in 1801 in a place called Penlan, Llangiwc Parish, Glamorganishre, South Wales. He was the son of John and Mary Howell, Pyllfa Watkin, Llangefelech, Glamorganshire, South Wales. He married Jane Howell, the daughter of Howell and Mary Howell, Gelli-lwca-her [Jane's] death was noted in Y Cenhadwr about two years ago. He was received into church membership, as one of thirty, at Baran under the ministry of the Rev. Roger Howells in 1829.
  • 35. He and his wife immigrated to America from Ty'r Cwm, near Gelli-lwca, in 1832. They settled in Bradford where they stayed until the grave. Their two children were born in Wales and are in comfortable circumstances in Bradford. Evan Howell was one of the pillars of fire of the religious cause here since landing here. His brother Wm. Howell is still with us, the only one of six children.
  • 36. Strategies for Success Search the National Burial Index compact disc. This database includes 265 thousand entries for Wales (Glamorganshire, Cardiganshire, Radnorshire, Monmouthshire, and Montgomeryshire) Search for burials at the parish church. Nonconformist chapels seldom had their own burial ground before 1800 Search monumental inscriptions
  • 37. Monumental Inscriptions Monumental inscriptions fill some gaps in the missing records. About three people named per stone
  • 38. 71. In Memory of/ Rachel/ Daughter of John Jones/ Ynisderw In This Parish/ Who Died October 9, 1837/ Aged 26 Years/ Also the Above Named/ John Jones/ Who Died June 26, 1851/ Aged 76 Years/ Also Hannah Wife Of/ The Above John Jones/ Who Died February 14, 1860/ Aged 82 Years/ Also of John Williams Grandson of The Above/ John & Hannah Jones/ Who Died June 5, 1892 Aged 59 Years/ Also in Memory of Lewis Williams/ His Brother/ Who died At/ Carbondale U.S.A./ June 25, 1892/ Aged 57 Years/ Interred At/ Carbondale/ Cemetery
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  • 40. Baran Chapel Monumental Inscriptions
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  • 44. Strategies for Success Search christening, burial and monumental inscription records within a fifteen mile radius of where your ancestors lived.
  • 45. Strategies for Success Utilize histories about the: Chapel Area Denomination
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  • 48. About this time, Wil Hopkin came to live in the area and he was instrumental in persuading the few brothers in the neighbourhood to form a prayer meeting on Sunday evenings. The names of the ones who joined in the good work with W. Hopkin were Howell Llewellyn, Evan Howell, Job Morgan and his son, Thomas Howell, Llewellyn William and Dafydd Morgan; and soon after that Owen Evans joined them. There were also some excellent ladies such as Catherine Lloyd, Margaret Edwards and the wife of Hopkin Harry.
  • 49. Strategy for Success Learn about the chapel pedigree
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  • 51. Strategies for Success Search the Historical Manuscripts Commission National Register of Archives web site for information on recently deposited records. Do a “Place Name”search http://www.nra.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/
  • 52. The International Genealogical Index for Wales Pre 1813 extractions are based on the assumption that everyone used patronymics. Post 1812 extractions are based on the assumption that no one used patronymics. A small percentage of church and chapel records have been extracted.
  • 53. Analysis of Extracted Welsh Records There are about 1,200 parish churches in Wales There were about 5,500 nonconformist chapels in Wales There should be about 6,700 registers of church/chapel records for Wales About 1,408 registers have been extracted for Wales (based on findings for Glamorgan)
  • 54. Analysis of Extracted Welsh Records Conclusion Less than 21% of the church and chapel records for Wales have been extracted for the IGI
  • 55. Strategies for Success with theInternational Genealogical Index for Wales Search by given name for christenings before 1813 Search by surname for christenings after 1812 Use the IGI as a starting point but never expect it to represent a high percentage of the population Always examine the original record

Editor's Notes

  1. Diary of David Davies, Swansea University Archives, LAC/114/4 1821 Jan – 1822 Jan.
  2. Diary of David Davies, Swansea University Archives, LAC/114/4 1821 Jan – 1822 Jan.
  3. Membership List, Gellionnen Chapel, Glamorgan, Wales, FHL# 813540 item 6, TNA# RG4/3884
  4. Membership List, Gellionnen Chapel, Glamorgan, Wales, FHL# 813540 item 6, TNA# RG4/3884
  5. Gellionnen Chapel Records, FHL# 813540 item 6, TNA# RG4/3884
  6. This is to inform that the bearer Amelia Davies is a regular member of the Congregational Church who gather at Saron, Rhydyfro; and as such it is approved to communion, and a sister to the care of the Tabernacle Church and gyferfydd in Pontardawe. Signed for the Church
  7. Gellionnen Monumental Inscriptions, number 27.
  8. Catchment area for persons named on gravestones at Gellionnen chapel.
  9. Hanes Eglwysi Annibynnol Cymru (History of the Welsh Independent Churches) By Thomas Rees and John Thomas; published in 1871+. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llangiwg/Hanes.html#Rhydyfro