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Corinne Vargha
                                                                                                                                               Very challenging to implement
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sr. Labour Lawyer at International
                                                                                             Agency works be able to                                                                                                                                                              Labour Office - ILO
                                                                                                                                    When talking to (international) unions
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Social 'partners'
                                                                                                                       Should be bargaining unit of                                                                                                               Speaker         Advicing
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Governments
                                                                                                                       organization
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Labor is not a comodity
                                                                             Write to negotiate                                                                                                                                                                                   Core value of ILO
                                                                                    Netherlands
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Should not be considered as one
                                                                                        Germany           If you are employers
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Fred
                                                At branche level
                                                                             "sector on it's own'                                      Fred: Principle                                                                                                                                        van
                                                                                                                                                               Bargaining unit
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Haasteren
                                               Netherlands has a system                                                                                                                                                                                           Moderator
                                                                                     Find solutions for conflicting interests
                                                        Which one is first                                                                                                                Collective
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Regulating the triangular employment relationship
                                                                      Separate case                 Trade unions are representing agency workers                                          bargaining
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Masterclass                           through labour law and social dialogue
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Topic
                                                                                                                     Worldwide seen
                                                                                                                                                 Primarily at enterprise level
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Sander Kamp
                                                                   ILO convenction opposed to local legislation                     Mexico                                                                                                                        Mindmapper             World of Minds

                                                                    Contingent teams Low penetration of
                                                                    union membership                                                                                                                                                                                          Important
                                                                                     No clear cut mechanism                                                                                                                                                                       Question
                                                                                                                                                      Collective bargaining
                                                                Overlaps in unions                                              South Africa                                                                                                                                                              Summary of the masterclass
                                                                                                                                                      in other countries
                                                                Unions competing                                                                                                                                                                                              Mindmap contains
                                                                                              Biggest problem                                                                                                                                                  Legend                                     Questions asked by attendees
                                             3 unions between temprary
                                             agencies and union representatives                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Clockwise
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Read mindmap
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      From top to bottom


                                                                          For workers                 Protection
                                                                                                                        Improve                                                                                                                                                                          Your biggest asset
                                                                                                        Security
                                                                                                                                                   Objective                                                                                                   Devote attention to people
                                                                                                              Greater flexibility
                                                                             TAW                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Important guidance
                                                                                            Equal treatment between:                                                                                                                                                                    No exclusion possible
                                                    User enterprise workers
                                                           Improved access to training between assignments                                      Key features                                                                                     Relevant international                                                                                Collective bargaining
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Freedom of:
                                                 Prohibition only if justified on grounds of general interest                                                                                                                                    labour standards to                                                                                   Association

                                                                               Flexible implementation provided overall level of                                                                                                                 agency work                                 Core international                 Freedom from forced labour
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Master class 3: Regulating the
                                                                               protection of temp. agency workers is respected                                                                                                                                                               labour standards                      Child labour
                                                                                                                                                                                                            triangular employment
                                    Can derogate               Permanent employes of agency                                                                                                            relationship through labour law                                                                                             Discrimination

                                          Persue similar objectives                                                                                                                                            and social dialogue
                                          for regulation                          European agency                                                                                                                                                                                                           Recognized important roles labour market
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Operate under public supervision
                                               Discussion and review of review of                             Derogation permitted in
                                               implementation of directive                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Comply with all labour laws
                                                                                                              certain limited                       Other
                And revision
                                          Directive itself plan for future discussion                         circumstances                                                                                                                                                       Core features             Validate the role of the PEA
                                                                                                                                                    features
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Employer and
                      Can put discussion on agenda                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Responsibilites are clearly allocated
                                                                                                2013                                                                                                                                                                                                        user entrepise's
                      of the convention
                                                                Governing body ILO
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Minimum wage
                   Corinne: Would expect
                                                            Severe control of what                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Collective bargaining
                   closely monitoring
                                                            countries have done?
                                                                                                                                                                                 European temporary                                                                                                                    Working time
              Engaging in pernanent discussion about                                                                                                                             agencies worker                                                                                                                       OSH protection
              implementation                                                 Regulation system for                                                                                                                                                                        Application of responsibilities
                                                                                                                                                                                 directive (TAW)                                                                                                                       Social security
                                                Governments                  monitoring                                                                                                                                                                                   in terms of:
                                   Employers and workers
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Training
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Accidents
                                Private           Gentle discussion                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Compensation
                                                                                        First 'offence'                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Disseases

                                            'Force' government                                                         If a member doesn't apply the                                                                                                                                          All private employment agencies
                                                                                    Severe 'offence'                                                                                                                                     Private employment
                                    By 'naming and shaming'                                                            regulation, who enforces them?                                                                                                                                         All categories of workers
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         agencies convention
      First private                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Recruitment & replacement of seafarers
                             Permanent dialogue                                                                                                                                                                                          (nr. 181)                        Applies to:         But not:
       Then open                                                Specific complain mechanisms
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Exceptions under certain circumstances
                           Work with national federation                  Social partners and ILO

                                                                                        European directive
                                                                                            ILO convention
                                              Corinne: ILO have general rules
                                                                                                                           What if there are conflicting
                                     Article in European treaty                            Answer Corinne                  issues between the:

                               Take all measures to overcome the conflict
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               16 don't consider, refuse or defer ratification
                                                      Without deviation
                                                                                        Introducing user pay                                                                                                                                                                                                   14 don't reply
                                                        Is not respected!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Diagram                             23 ratified the convention
                      Strongly encourage consultation with social partners                      ILO would say
                                                                                                                          Fred: "Freedom of collective
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           108 of 182 answered                 1 ratification process initiated
                                                                                                                          bargaining is respected"
                                                                   Valued upon existance of good faith                                                                                                                                                                     the questionaire
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               38 Prospects of ratification
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               16 Convention presents divergences
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               with national legislation and practice


2011-05-19 Ciett2011 World Employment Conference | LiveMindMapping by World of Minds, more info see: www.connectionofminds.com/ontmoet

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Masterclass03

  • 1. Corinne Vargha Very challenging to implement Sr. Labour Lawyer at International Agency works be able to Labour Office - ILO When talking to (international) unions Social 'partners' Should be bargaining unit of Speaker Advicing Governments organization Labor is not a comodity Write to negotiate Core value of ILO Netherlands Should not be considered as one Germany If you are employers Fred At branche level "sector on it's own' Fred: Principle van Bargaining unit Haasteren Netherlands has a system Moderator Find solutions for conflicting interests Which one is first Collective Regulating the triangular employment relationship Separate case Trade unions are representing agency workers bargaining Masterclass through labour law and social dialogue Topic Worldwide seen Primarily at enterprise level Sander Kamp ILO convenction opposed to local legislation Mexico Mindmapper World of Minds Contingent teams Low penetration of union membership Important No clear cut mechanism Question Collective bargaining Overlaps in unions South Africa Summary of the masterclass in other countries Unions competing Mindmap contains Biggest problem Legend Questions asked by attendees 3 unions between temprary agencies and union representatives Clockwise Read mindmap From top to bottom For workers Protection Improve Your biggest asset Security Objective Devote attention to people Greater flexibility TAW Important guidance Equal treatment between: No exclusion possible User enterprise workers Improved access to training between assignments Key features Relevant international Collective bargaining Freedom of: Prohibition only if justified on grounds of general interest labour standards to Association Flexible implementation provided overall level of agency work Core international Freedom from forced labour Master class 3: Regulating the protection of temp. agency workers is respected labour standards Child labour triangular employment Can derogate Permanent employes of agency relationship through labour law Discrimination Persue similar objectives and social dialogue for regulation European agency Recognized important roles labour market Operate under public supervision Discussion and review of review of Derogation permitted in implementation of directive Comply with all labour laws certain limited Other And revision Directive itself plan for future discussion circumstances Core features Validate the role of the PEA features Employer and Can put discussion on agenda Responsibilites are clearly allocated 2013 user entrepise's of the convention Governing body ILO Minimum wage Corinne: Would expect Severe control of what Collective bargaining closely monitoring countries have done? European temporary Working time Engaging in pernanent discussion about agencies worker OSH protection implementation Regulation system for Application of responsibilities directive (TAW) Social security Governments monitoring in terms of: Employers and workers Training Accidents Private Gentle discussion Compensation First 'offence' Disseases 'Force' government If a member doesn't apply the All private employment agencies Severe 'offence' Private employment By 'naming and shaming' regulation, who enforces them? All categories of workers agencies convention First private Recruitment & replacement of seafarers Permanent dialogue (nr. 181) Applies to: But not: Then open Specific complain mechanisms Exceptions under certain circumstances Work with national federation Social partners and ILO European directive ILO convention Corinne: ILO have general rules What if there are conflicting Article in European treaty Answer Corinne issues between the: Take all measures to overcome the conflict 16 don't consider, refuse or defer ratification Without deviation Introducing user pay 14 don't reply Is not respected! Diagram 23 ratified the convention Strongly encourage consultation with social partners ILO would say Fred: "Freedom of collective 108 of 182 answered 1 ratification process initiated bargaining is respected" Valued upon existance of good faith the questionaire 38 Prospects of ratification 16 Convention presents divergences with national legislation and practice 2011-05-19 Ciett2011 World Employment Conference | LiveMindMapping by World of Minds, more info see: www.connectionofminds.com/ontmoet