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CRP'S in AIM phases
 Asked by bhanu222 | posted Sep 3, 2006 | Replies (1)

Hi,

can anybody briefly explain me the purpuse&process of CRP's(conference room pilots) in AIM phases.and what are the related

doc's used to script them.

thanks in advance



regards,

GB prasad

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Hi,

CRP's are conducted to ensure that understanding of people doing implementation is right and inline with user requirements. It also

looks to un-earth previously un-discussed process and business flow issues.




Cheers,

Rajeev Pandey




Oracle Instances: Vision Development Test Production
Let us discuss something on the instances which a consultant normally works on...

Instance is an address for a location where Applications database is stored.
We might have heard of many instances such as Vision, Test, Development,CRP I, CRP II, UAT, Production etc.... but apart from
the name there is no change in the behaviour of any of the Instances.

All instances carry the same technical features and functional setups, no difference what so ever in any of them, but why we call it
by different names then ?
The different instance names are given based on the purpose for which it is used. Every instance is created with the same features
and specifications, only naming is done based on the usage or the purpose.

We will see the standard or common purposes for which different instances are used in
an implementation.

Test Instance
It is a fresh instance which is used by the Implementation team to try out new setups and work arounds as per the clients business
specifications and arriving at final solutions. Apart from that test instance is used for testing the performance of installation as well as
other factors. The life of this instance starts from the first day of kick off and ends when the production begins or system has gone
live.
Development Instance
It is also a fresh instance when installed, but more or less it replicates the test or Production instance (normally cloned). The
purpose is to make constant development in the current business process and the system performance and working out new
methods in solving critical bottlenecks with the current system. The life of this instance is infinity, since there is no end to
development, it is an ongoing process, it continues even after the system has gone live.

Production Instance
It is a fresh instance installed with an intention to share it with all the users of the client with fine tunning. This instance is different
from Test and Development with respect to the number of users, size of the database, security features etc. The life of the
production instance begins when the User Acceptance testing is done, and it continues till the company is in existence.

Vision Instance
It is different from all other instances because the installation comes with the data, whereas all other instances are Fresh. Even
though there is no particular necessity to have this instance in an real time scenario, but it is better to have a vision instance always
for the following reasons:

1) It serves as a practice for the DBA to find out the installation problems that occurs due to hardware failures.
2) Functional consultant often try out a small business scenarios to find out solutions, in order to try out these scenarios, they
need to do all the mandatory setups in an instance then only they can perform it. If they had vision instance, they can use the
existing setups to try out thier business scenarios
3) Vision instance also acts as a tutor to the Functional Consultants in case they are lost in performing critical setups.

Posted by Sami Malik at 9:59 PM


                                                                                                                                             Reply
Difference between Development instance and Test instance of R12.
Posted: Oct 25, 2009 4:44 AM
erp , environment
 Hi,

 I would like to know the difference between development insatance and test instance created after production instance.
 I know development is used for development and test is used to test the development or customizations.
 But how could i used both these servers for best patching practice?
 How frequest these two server should be refreshed from prod?
 what should be the patching strategy?

 Kindly provide me with extra details and porpuse of these two extra instances.
 and how can i use them upto optimum level (real time example please).

 Thanks.

Srini                                  Re: Difference between Development instance and Test
                                                                                                                     Helpful                 Reply
Chavali                                instance of R12.
                                       Posted: Oct 25, 2009 5:18 AM in response to: aboodlardy
Posts: 16,008
Registered: 04/18/08                  There are many use cases and types of test instances. We are a large shop and have multiple test instances -
                                      some test instances are for DBA use and some are for functional use.

                                      DBAs have a patch test instance where a requested patch is first applied to verify that the patch application is
                                      error free. The patch is then applied to the other test instances where functional testing takes place to verify
                                      that the patch fixed the issue in question. Once verified, the patch is then applied on the pre-production,
                                      production and dev instances.

                                      The functional test instances are used by the functional team to test implementations of new
                                      functionality/customizations/extensions. The DBAs also use them to verify the migration process of
                                      customizations/extensions from dev to test instances is error-free.

                                      We typically clone all of these test/dev instances frequently (once a month or once every two months, or as
                                      required) from production

                                      HTH
                                      Srini

Hussein                                Re: Difference between Development instance and Test
                                                                                                                     Helpful                 Reply
Sawwan                                 instance of R12.
                                       Posted: Oct 25, 2009 5:19 AM in response to: aboodlardy
Posts: 54,084
Registered: 03/13/06                  Hi,
Patchset level should be always identical on all these instances. I believe the best practice would be patching
                       the test instance, verify that the patch fix the main issue(s) and no more issues come up by applying the
                       same patch, then apply it on your production instance. You can refresh the development instance by cloning
                       the test/prod instance then.

                       You may also review the following documents and see if it helps.

                       Note: 242480.1 - Using a Staged Applications 11i System to Reduce Patching Downtime
                       Note: 225165.1 - Patching Best Practices and Reducing Downtime

                       Regards,
                       Hussein

aboodlardy             Re: Difference between Development instance and Test instance of R12.
                                                                                                                              Reply
                       Posted: Oct 25, 2009 10:09 PM in response to: Hussein Sawwan
Posts: 32              Thanks for your replies.
Registered: 02/08/09
                       we have two extra servers other than production.
                       We are planning to use them as follows.

                       Dev:

                       -   a copy of the prod atleast two months old.
                       -   will be used for development/cutomizations/extention.
                       -   patch testing.
                       -   new setups

                       Quality:

                       - a latest copy(atmost one month old) of the prod.
                       - pre-production patching.
                       - DBAs to verify migration process from dev to quality.


                       Srini,

                       i understood the need for test,functional and devlopment in your environment.
                       But what is the need for pre-production.
                       You are applying patches on pre-production,production and development with out further
                       verification after each of this instance is applied with the patch?

                       kindly add some tasks which i could assign to specific server in my environment.

                       Thanks.

Srini                  Re: Difference between Development instance and Test
                                                                                                      Helpful                 Reply
Chavali                instance of R12.
                       Posted: Oct 26, 2009 4:26 AM in response to: aboodlardy
Posts: 16,008
Registered: 04/18/08   Our pre-production instance is an exact copy of production - identical hardware and software, identical
                       architecture etc. It is used to troubleshoot/replicate any issues in production, so that the issues can be
                       diagnosed without affecting production. The pre-production instance is located in a different data center from
                       production and can be used as a production instance in case a disaster strikes the production data center.

                       Once patches have been tested thoroughly in the test instances, they are then applied in pre-production and
                       tested again. If no issues are found, then patches are applied to production and dev instances.

                       HTH
                       Srini

aboodlardy             Re: Difference between Development instance and Test instance of R12.
                                                                                                                              Reply
                       Posted: Oct 26, 2009 9:51 PM in response to: aboodlardy
Posts: 32              Thanks for your replies.
Registered: 02/08/09

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Crp

  • 1. CRP'S in AIM phases Asked by bhanu222 | posted Sep 3, 2006 | Replies (1) Hi, can anybody briefly explain me the purpuse&process of CRP's(conference room pilots) in AIM phases.and what are the related doc's used to script them. thanks in advance regards, GB prasad Popular White Paper On This Topic 5 Ways ERP Can Help You Implement Lean 1 Reply 0 Rajeev Pandey Replied Sep 4, 2006 Hi, CRP's are conducted to ensure that understanding of people doing implementation is right and inline with user requirements. It also looks to un-earth previously un-discussed process and business flow issues. Cheers, Rajeev Pandey Oracle Instances: Vision Development Test Production Let us discuss something on the instances which a consultant normally works on... Instance is an address for a location where Applications database is stored. We might have heard of many instances such as Vision, Test, Development,CRP I, CRP II, UAT, Production etc.... but apart from the name there is no change in the behaviour of any of the Instances. All instances carry the same technical features and functional setups, no difference what so ever in any of them, but why we call it by different names then ? The different instance names are given based on the purpose for which it is used. Every instance is created with the same features and specifications, only naming is done based on the usage or the purpose. We will see the standard or common purposes for which different instances are used in an implementation. Test Instance It is a fresh instance which is used by the Implementation team to try out new setups and work arounds as per the clients business specifications and arriving at final solutions. Apart from that test instance is used for testing the performance of installation as well as other factors. The life of this instance starts from the first day of kick off and ends when the production begins or system has gone live.
  • 2. Development Instance It is also a fresh instance when installed, but more or less it replicates the test or Production instance (normally cloned). The purpose is to make constant development in the current business process and the system performance and working out new methods in solving critical bottlenecks with the current system. The life of this instance is infinity, since there is no end to development, it is an ongoing process, it continues even after the system has gone live. Production Instance It is a fresh instance installed with an intention to share it with all the users of the client with fine tunning. This instance is different from Test and Development with respect to the number of users, size of the database, security features etc. The life of the production instance begins when the User Acceptance testing is done, and it continues till the company is in existence. Vision Instance It is different from all other instances because the installation comes with the data, whereas all other instances are Fresh. Even though there is no particular necessity to have this instance in an real time scenario, but it is better to have a vision instance always for the following reasons: 1) It serves as a practice for the DBA to find out the installation problems that occurs due to hardware failures. 2) Functional consultant often try out a small business scenarios to find out solutions, in order to try out these scenarios, they need to do all the mandatory setups in an instance then only they can perform it. If they had vision instance, they can use the existing setups to try out thier business scenarios 3) Vision instance also acts as a tutor to the Functional Consultants in case they are lost in performing critical setups. Posted by Sami Malik at 9:59 PM Reply Difference between Development instance and Test instance of R12. Posted: Oct 25, 2009 4:44 AM erp , environment Hi, I would like to know the difference between development insatance and test instance created after production instance. I know development is used for development and test is used to test the development or customizations. But how could i used both these servers for best patching practice? How frequest these two server should be refreshed from prod? what should be the patching strategy? Kindly provide me with extra details and porpuse of these two extra instances. and how can i use them upto optimum level (real time example please). Thanks. Srini Re: Difference between Development instance and Test Helpful Reply Chavali instance of R12. Posted: Oct 25, 2009 5:18 AM in response to: aboodlardy Posts: 16,008 Registered: 04/18/08 There are many use cases and types of test instances. We are a large shop and have multiple test instances - some test instances are for DBA use and some are for functional use. DBAs have a patch test instance where a requested patch is first applied to verify that the patch application is error free. The patch is then applied to the other test instances where functional testing takes place to verify that the patch fixed the issue in question. Once verified, the patch is then applied on the pre-production, production and dev instances. The functional test instances are used by the functional team to test implementations of new functionality/customizations/extensions. The DBAs also use them to verify the migration process of customizations/extensions from dev to test instances is error-free. We typically clone all of these test/dev instances frequently (once a month or once every two months, or as required) from production HTH Srini Hussein Re: Difference between Development instance and Test Helpful Reply Sawwan instance of R12. Posted: Oct 25, 2009 5:19 AM in response to: aboodlardy Posts: 54,084 Registered: 03/13/06 Hi,
  • 3. Patchset level should be always identical on all these instances. I believe the best practice would be patching the test instance, verify that the patch fix the main issue(s) and no more issues come up by applying the same patch, then apply it on your production instance. You can refresh the development instance by cloning the test/prod instance then. You may also review the following documents and see if it helps. Note: 242480.1 - Using a Staged Applications 11i System to Reduce Patching Downtime Note: 225165.1 - Patching Best Practices and Reducing Downtime Regards, Hussein aboodlardy Re: Difference between Development instance and Test instance of R12. Reply Posted: Oct 25, 2009 10:09 PM in response to: Hussein Sawwan Posts: 32 Thanks for your replies. Registered: 02/08/09 we have two extra servers other than production. We are planning to use them as follows. Dev: - a copy of the prod atleast two months old. - will be used for development/cutomizations/extention. - patch testing. - new setups Quality: - a latest copy(atmost one month old) of the prod. - pre-production patching. - DBAs to verify migration process from dev to quality. Srini, i understood the need for test,functional and devlopment in your environment. But what is the need for pre-production. You are applying patches on pre-production,production and development with out further verification after each of this instance is applied with the patch? kindly add some tasks which i could assign to specific server in my environment. Thanks. Srini Re: Difference between Development instance and Test Helpful Reply Chavali instance of R12. Posted: Oct 26, 2009 4:26 AM in response to: aboodlardy Posts: 16,008 Registered: 04/18/08 Our pre-production instance is an exact copy of production - identical hardware and software, identical architecture etc. It is used to troubleshoot/replicate any issues in production, so that the issues can be diagnosed without affecting production. The pre-production instance is located in a different data center from production and can be used as a production instance in case a disaster strikes the production data center. Once patches have been tested thoroughly in the test instances, they are then applied in pre-production and tested again. If no issues are found, then patches are applied to production and dev instances. HTH Srini aboodlardy Re: Difference between Development instance and Test instance of R12. Reply Posted: Oct 26, 2009 9:51 PM in response to: aboodlardy Posts: 32 Thanks for your replies. Registered: 02/08/09