WEEK: The Problem of Socrates and the Rise of Reason Nietzsche argues that Plato and Socrates replaced Ancient Greek tragedy and its emphasis on passion and instinct with reason. He interprets Socrates’ discovery of reason and argument through dialectic, the famous Socratic method, as one that arises out of ressentiment and revenge at all that is noble by someone of lower class, a member of the rabble, to which Nietzsche claims Socrates belongs. For those familiar with Socrates, he is known to put those he speaks with on the defensive by asking them to support their statements with evidence. Often those with whom he speaks are unable to support their opinions thereby showing they do not really know what they claim to know. “The dialectician leaves it to his opponent to demonstrate he is not an idiot: he enrages, he at the same time makes helpless.” (Twilight of the Idols, I 7, pg 42) As stated in a previous lecture, Nietzsche admired the Greeks for engaging with the chaos and darkness of the Dionysian and making art by giving form to the formless out of the Apollonian instinct. He thought by engaging with the Dionysian the Greeks prior to Socrates were driven by healthy instincts and the ability to look at the horrors of the world without fear. Through the Dionysian these Greek lovers of Tragedy engaged with change and chaos. Having turned against instinct Nietzsche thinks the Greeks became sick and turned to reason as their life raft. No longer able to endure life and its great mysteries they wished to expose all that was magical to the light of reason. Unable to endure ambiguity, the Greeks substitute instinct for reason. “The fanaticism with which the whole of Greek thought plunges into reason, betrays a critical condition of things: men were in danger; there were only two alternatives: either perish or else be absurdly rational. The moral bias of Greek philosophy from Plato onward, is the outcome of a pathological condition, as is also its appreciation of dialectics. Reason = Virtue = Happiness, simply means: we must imitate Socrates, and confront the dark passions permanently with the light of day—the light of reason. We must at all costs be clever, precise, clear: all yielding to the instincts, to the unconscious, leads downwards.” (TI, The problem of Socrates, 11) Socrates too acts out of instinct, but for Nietzsche these instincts are diseased. Socrates was driven by the instinct for clarity and definition and developed strong rational and argumentative powers. By acting on these powers, he introduces reason and dialectic and at the same time maximizes his power. The popularity of Socrates’ method arises from “his personal art of self-preservation” and lies in its agonistic stance. (Twilight of the Idols, I 9, 42) With the dialectic, Socrates owns his power and gathers the admiration of the aristocratic youth’s desire for competition, contest and mastery. Nietzsche calls him the “first fencing master” whose allure for the ...

1. WEEK:
The Problem of Socrates and the Rise of Reason
Nietzsche argues that Plato and Socrates replaced Ancient
Greek tragedy and its emphasis on passion and instinct with
reason. He interprets Socrates’ discovery of reason and
argument through dialectic, the famous Socratic method, as one
that arises out of ressentiment and revenge at all that is noble
by someone of lower class, a member of the rabble, to which
Nietzsche claims Socrates belongs. For those familiar with
Socrates, he is known to put those he speaks with on the
defensive by asking them to support their statements with
evidence. Often those with whom he speaks are unable to
support their opinions thereby showing they do not really know
what they claim to know. “The dialectician leaves it to his
opponent to demonstrate he is not an idiot: he enrages, he at the
same time makes helpless.” (Twilight of the Idols, I 7, pg 42)
As stated in a previous lecture, Nietzsche admired the Greeks
for engaging with the chaos and darkness of the Dionysian and
making art by giving form to the formless out of the Apollonian
instinct. He thought by engaging with the Dionysian the
Greeks prior to Socrates were driven by healthy instincts and
the ability to look at the horrors of the world without fear.
Through the Dionysian these Greek lovers of Tragedy engaged
with change and chaos. Having turned against instinct Nietzsche
thinks the Greeks became sick and turned to reason as their life
raft. No longer able to endure life and its great mysteries they
wished to expose all that was magical to the light of reason.
Unable to endure ambiguity, the Greeks substitute instinct for
reason.
“The fanaticism with which the whole of Greek thought plunges
into reason, betrays a critical condition of things: men were in

2. danger; there were only two alternatives: either perish or else be
absurdly rational. The moral bias of Greek philosophy from
Plato onward, is the outcome of a pathological condition, as is
also its appreciation of dialectics. Reason = Virtue = Happiness,
simply means: we must imitate Socrates, and confront the dark
passions permanently with the light of day—the light of reason.
We must at all costs be clever, precise, clear: all yielding to the
instincts, to the unconscious, leads downwards.” (TI, The
problem of Socrates, 11)
Socrates too acts out of instinct, but for Nietzsche these
instincts are diseased. Socrates was driven by the instinct for
clarity and definition and developed strong rational and
argumentative powers. By acting on these powers, he introduces
reason and dialectic and at the same time maximizes his power.
The popularity of Socrates’ method arises from “his personal art
of self-preservation” and lies in its agonistic stance. (Twilight
of the Idols, I 9, 42)
With the dialectic, Socrates owns his power and gathers the
admiration of the aristocratic youth’s desire for competition,
contest and mastery. Nietzsche calls him the “first fencing
master” whose allure for the Athenian youth verges on the
erotic. (TI 8, pg 42) . Again, as Nietzsche interprets people’s
actions based on a physiological model, he believes Socrates
engages in the art of argumentation because that is what he is
master at and that is where his power lies. He creates for
himself a style that is deemed beautiful.
Nietzsche thinks that Socrates made a tyrant of reason and
imprisoned life by reducing mystery and the state of the world’s
perpetual becoming to the powers of reason and its desire to
measure and know things. The enhancement of the drive for
calculation creates a cold, circumspect world devoid of

3. tolerance to change, becoming and the unknown. Anything that
could not be captured conceptually or marked by moral
categories through reason was cast away in the dark and placed
on the borders of everyday life. Through the dominance of
reason, Socrates created “ a permanent daylight—the daylight of
reason. One must be prudent, clear, bright at any cost: every
yielding to the instincts, to the unconscious, leads
downwards…” (TI 10, pg 43) “The most blinding light of day:
reason at any price; life made clear, cold, cautious, conscious,
without instincts, opposed to the instincts, was in itself only a
disease, another kind of disease—and by no means a return to
"virtue," to "health," and to happiness. To be obliged to fight
the instincts—this is the formula of degeneration: as long as life
is in the ascending line, happiness is the same as instinct.”
According to Nietzsche it is simply in bad taste to have to give
reasons and justifications for everything. To want to expose
everything to the daylight of reason is simply bad manners. It
leads to a denial of instincts.
To act out of good taste and strength, Nietzsche thinks, does not
require any justification by reason or excuses for action. “What
has first to have itself proved is of little value.” (TI 5, pg 41)
Read the section THE PROBLEM OF SOCRATES in Twilight
of the Idols:
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/52263/52263-h/52263-h.htm