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Unsustainably Sustainable
How to avoid the pitfalls &
become true sustainability experts
Vanessa Liell
Partner & Co-founder
Dr Carl Ungerer
Managing Partner
Dr Carl Ungerer Vanessa Liell
Advises CEOs and boards on political, national and
cyber-security risk including cyber-security simulations.
Also...
Career diplomat with DFAT
Intelligence analyst & State/Federal political advisor
Global expert on national security and cyber-security
Widely published author
Advises CEOs and boards on reputational risk
specialising in corporate affairs and issues & crisis.
Also...
Co-founder of creative venture Rethink Everything
Co-founder of Herd MSL
Non-executive director
Casual Academic in Strategic Communications at UTS
Introducing.........
Unsustainably Sustainable
Sustainability: practical definition and the
Australian landscape.
1
2 Expert case study: the risk cybersecurity
poses to organisation's sustainability.
3 Implications for communicators: risks and
opportunities in sustainability consulting
and advisory.
Today's
presentation
Unsustainably Sustainable
What is sustainability?
Practical definition
Sustainability is defined as anything
that threatens the long term
sustainability of a business.
The focus has been on ESG –
environment, social & governance.
Improving ESG outcomes protects
reputation, attracts and retains
employees and improves investment
opportunities.
What is the risk to communicators?
Australian landscape
Overblown and unsubstantiated ESG
claims are leading to accusations and
increasingly prosecutions for
greenwashing.
This poses a major challenge for
companies' reputations, and
potentially the bottom line.
How companies navigate these issues
are increasingly difficult.
The greatest current ESG risk is "G"
Case study: Cybersecurity risk
Cybersecurity is now the number one
governance issue for boards and CEOs.
This year we will see several more
attacks on major brands in Australia.
The government has put boards on
notice to act now on cyber or face
regulatory and financial penalty.
Boards are increasingly exposed
Case study: Cybersecurity risk
ASIC has already prosecuted a
financial services company for lack
of preparedness.
Companies that fail to protect data will
face the triple whammy of government
regulation, legal class actions and loss
of consumer confidence.
The scale of cyber-security risk
Case study: Cybersecurity risk
Ransomware is old news AI is unknown territory Russian based
cyber-gangs
The scale of cyber-security risk
Case study: Cybersecurity risk
"Despite Western intelligence agencies
continuing to call out, by name, many
of the state-sponsored threat actors,
and placing sanctions on government
officials and associated agencies
involved in these operations, there is
no sign that cyber attacks have
diminished. In fact, they are
getting worse."
Questions for communicators
Implications for corporate affairs and PR agencies
How well is your company prepared
for issues and risks related to ESG?
Have you prioritised the issues that
are likely to cause the greatest
reputational and commercial risk?
Do you know exactly what your
company does and what it says it
does? Is there any difference?
Have you independently checked the
facts? How would you do that?
HorizonBlue is an Australian cybersecurity
simulation offering.
Created as a partnership between Horizon GR and
specialist financial services firm BlueChip
Communications.
Combines global cyber-security frontline experience
with specialist issues and crisis preparedness.
Addresses Australian company's requirements to
ensure boards and executive teams are
operationally prepared for a cyber-attack.
Innovate your offering
Implications for corporate affairs and PR agencies
Partner with experts in the areas you
are advising.
Separate communication issues from
technical issues (that require specialist
expertise).
Don't assume - ask the hard questions
and interrogate & verify the facts.
How to avoid the pitfalls
Implications for corporate affairs and PR agencies
Thank You
1
Vanessa Liell
Partner & Co-founder
Dr Carl Ungerer
Managing Partner

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'Unsustainably Sustainable' by Dr Carl Ungerer and Vanessa Liell at Mumbrella CommsCon 2023

  • 1. Unsustainably Sustainable How to avoid the pitfalls & become true sustainability experts Vanessa Liell Partner & Co-founder Dr Carl Ungerer Managing Partner
  • 2. Dr Carl Ungerer Vanessa Liell Advises CEOs and boards on political, national and cyber-security risk including cyber-security simulations. Also... Career diplomat with DFAT Intelligence analyst & State/Federal political advisor Global expert on national security and cyber-security Widely published author Advises CEOs and boards on reputational risk specialising in corporate affairs and issues & crisis. Also... Co-founder of creative venture Rethink Everything Co-founder of Herd MSL Non-executive director Casual Academic in Strategic Communications at UTS Introducing......... Unsustainably Sustainable
  • 3. Sustainability: practical definition and the Australian landscape. 1 2 Expert case study: the risk cybersecurity poses to organisation's sustainability. 3 Implications for communicators: risks and opportunities in sustainability consulting and advisory. Today's presentation Unsustainably Sustainable
  • 4. What is sustainability? Practical definition Sustainability is defined as anything that threatens the long term sustainability of a business. The focus has been on ESG – environment, social & governance. Improving ESG outcomes protects reputation, attracts and retains employees and improves investment opportunities.
  • 5. What is the risk to communicators? Australian landscape Overblown and unsubstantiated ESG claims are leading to accusations and increasingly prosecutions for greenwashing. This poses a major challenge for companies' reputations, and potentially the bottom line. How companies navigate these issues are increasingly difficult.
  • 6. The greatest current ESG risk is "G" Case study: Cybersecurity risk Cybersecurity is now the number one governance issue for boards and CEOs. This year we will see several more attacks on major brands in Australia. The government has put boards on notice to act now on cyber or face regulatory and financial penalty.
  • 7. Boards are increasingly exposed Case study: Cybersecurity risk ASIC has already prosecuted a financial services company for lack of preparedness. Companies that fail to protect data will face the triple whammy of government regulation, legal class actions and loss of consumer confidence.
  • 8. The scale of cyber-security risk Case study: Cybersecurity risk Ransomware is old news AI is unknown territory Russian based cyber-gangs
  • 9. The scale of cyber-security risk Case study: Cybersecurity risk "Despite Western intelligence agencies continuing to call out, by name, many of the state-sponsored threat actors, and placing sanctions on government officials and associated agencies involved in these operations, there is no sign that cyber attacks have diminished. In fact, they are getting worse."
  • 10. Questions for communicators Implications for corporate affairs and PR agencies How well is your company prepared for issues and risks related to ESG? Have you prioritised the issues that are likely to cause the greatest reputational and commercial risk? Do you know exactly what your company does and what it says it does? Is there any difference? Have you independently checked the facts? How would you do that?
  • 11. HorizonBlue is an Australian cybersecurity simulation offering. Created as a partnership between Horizon GR and specialist financial services firm BlueChip Communications. Combines global cyber-security frontline experience with specialist issues and crisis preparedness. Addresses Australian company's requirements to ensure boards and executive teams are operationally prepared for a cyber-attack. Innovate your offering Implications for corporate affairs and PR agencies
  • 12. Partner with experts in the areas you are advising. Separate communication issues from technical issues (that require specialist expertise). Don't assume - ask the hard questions and interrogate & verify the facts. How to avoid the pitfalls Implications for corporate affairs and PR agencies
  • 13. Thank You 1 Vanessa Liell Partner & Co-founder Dr Carl Ungerer Managing Partner