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Sovereignty

   Free Will &


       Salvation
God’s Sovereignty
 and Salvation
      Part 2
Review from Last Time



• What is God‟s sovereignty?
• It is His absolute right to do all things according to his own
  good pleasure.

• Is predestination a Biblical concept?
• Without question, Scripture underscores God‟s work of
  predestination in His creation.

• How does predestination work with salvation?
• God predestines both the plan and the man/woman.
Why does God choose some for
         salvation?
Why Does God Choose Some?




“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us
 in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, just as he chose us
in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him
    in love. He destined us for adoption as his children through Jesus Christ,
 according to the good pleasure of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace that
           he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. (Ephesians 1:3–6)

  “So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence
  only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and
  trembling; for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His
                       good pleasure. ” (Philippians 2:12–13)
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The Father Has Chosen a Bride For the Son
In ancient times, a father always chose a bride for his son. And a price was always
  paid to the father for the bride. Scripture states that the Father has chosen a
 Bride for His Son, with His Son paying the cost for his chosen Bride. And in
               the end, the Son gives everything back to the Father.

         John 6                          John 17                     1 Cor. 15

   “All that the Father         “Jesus spoke these things;        “But each in his own
  gives Me will come to          and lifting up His eyes to       order: Christ the first
  Me, and the one who            heaven, He said, “Father,       fruits, after that those
    comes to Me I will           the hour has come; glorify     who are Christ‟s at His
certainly not cast out. . . .    Your Son, that the Son          coming, then comes the
  This is the will of Him         may glorify You, even as end, when He hands over
 who sent Me, that of all         You gave Him authority        the kingdom to the God
 that He has given Me I            over all flesh, that to all and Father, when He has
lose nothing, but raise it      whom You have given Him, abolished all rule and all
   up on the last day. ”         He may give eternal life. ”     authority and power. ”
     (John 6:37, 39)                   (John 17:1–2)               (1 Cor. 15:23–24)
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What are the core positions of how God
   predestines some for salvation?
1. Prescient position
2. Molinist position
3. Augustinian/Reformed position
The Prescient Position




                            Prescient
„knowledge of things before they exist or happen‟; „foreknowledge‟;
                            „foresight‟.
 The prescient position says God does choose people for salvation, but
  his choice is based on His foreknowledge of what people will do. God
looks down through history, and knows in advance who will respond to the
call of the gospel message and who will not. God chooses some based on
   His knowledge of them responding to the call and them having faith.
               God‟s choice is conditional on a person‟s faith.
The Prescient Position




 “For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to
the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;
and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He
        also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. ”
                               (Romans 8:29–30)
  “Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who reside as aliens, scattered
throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen
 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of
       the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood”
                                (1 Peter 1:1–2)
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The Molinist Position
 Developed by the Jesuit Luis de Molina,
    the Molinist position is much like the
  prescient view, although the concept of
 „middle knowledge‟ is what distinguishes it
          from all other positions.

 According to Molinism, God arranges the
  world as he chooses based on his middle
knowledge. God exercises sovereign control
 in the sense that he creates the person he
    wishes to create and brings about the
  circumstances he wills, knowing just what
  choices all those persons will make in the
    circumstances he has brought about.

   Molinism is not a compromise position
  between the prescient and Augustinian
  positions; rather, it is a variation on the
               prescient view.
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The Molinist Position
 “Then He began to denounce the cities in
    which most of His miracles were done,
 because they did not repent. “Woe to you,
Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the
  miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon
    which occurred in you, they would have
  repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
   “Nevertheless I say to you, it will be more
 tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of
      judgment than for you. “And you,
Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will
  you? You will descend to Hades; for if the
    miracles had occurred in Sodom which
  occurred in you, it would have remained to
this day. “Nevertheless I say to you that it will
 be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in
     the day of judgment, than for you.” ”
             (Matthew 11:20–24)
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The Augustinian/Reformed Position
The Reformed position (credited first to
  Augustine) does not deny God has
  foreknowledge nor that He has the
 ability to know everything that could or
 will be. However, it holds to a different
           view of predestination.

 According to Reformed theology, from
   all eternity God knew His elect. For
reasons known only to God Himself, He
   elected some to salvation with there
 being no condition whatsoever imposed
  on the individual. God chose some for
Himself and allows all others to continue
 in their freely chosen sin and eventually
           experience His justice.

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The Augustinian/Reformed Position
   “When the Gentiles heard this, they began
rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and
  as many as had been appointed to eternal life
             believed. ” (Acts 13:48)
Notice: it does not say “and as many as believed,
          God appointed to eternal life”

   “A woman named Lydia, from the city of
Thyatira, a seller of purple fabrics, a worshiper of
 God, was listening; and the Lord opened her
heart to respond to the things spoken by Paul. ”
                   (Acts 16:14)

  “For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on
 whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on
  whom I have compassion.” So then it does not
depend on the man who wills or the man who runs,
 but on God who has mercy. . . . So then He has
mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom
      He desires. ” (Romans 9:15–16, 18)

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The Augustinian/Reformed Position
“All things have been handed over to Me by My
 Father; and no one knows the Son except the
Father; nor does anyone know the Father except
 the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to
          reveal Him. ” (Matthew 11:27)

  “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me,
 and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not
               cast out. ” (John 6:37)

  “Father, I desire that they also, whom You have
given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may
 see My glory which You have given Me, for You
  loved Me before the foundation of the world. ”
                    (John 17:24)

“For this reason I endure all things for the sake of
   those who are chosen, so that they also may
 obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus and
     with it eternal glory. ” (2 Timothy 2:10)
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What is the primary difference between the prescient and
                  Augustinian positions?
 The first is primarily based on man‟s choice and the second
in God‟s choice. The first is based primarily on the willing of
    the unbeliever and the latter on the willing of God.
A Closer Look at the “Golden Chain”
“For those whom He foreknew, He also
predestined to become conformed to the
image of His Son, so that He would be
 the firstborn among many brethren; and
  these whom He predestined, He also
  called; and these whom He called, He
    also justified; and these whom He
        justified, He also glorified. ”
             (Romans 8:29–30)

    This passage is referred to as the
   “Golden Chain” or “The Order of
      Salvation” (Ordo Salutis) by
theologians. It is the primary versed used
  by those who hold the Prescient view.
But does it really support that position?

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A Closer Look at the “Golden Chain”
   “For those whom He foreknew, He also
   predestined to become conformed to the
 image of His Son, so that He would be the
  firstborn among many brethren; and these
  whom He predestined, He also called; and
these whom He called, He also justified; and
these whom He justified, He also glorified. ”
              (Romans 8:29–30)

First, Paul doesn‟t say that foreknowledge is
the basis of God‟s predestination; that their
  salvation is based on them choosing God
 and responding to His call. This position is
  imported into the text by Prescients. Paul
   simply says God predestines those He
   foreknew, which makes sense: God must
know people before He predestines them for
                   salvation.
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“Some” or “All”?

“Some of those whom He foreknew,
He also predestined. Some of those
He predestined, He also called; and
 some of those He called, He also
  justified; and some of those He
    justified, He also glorified.”

“All of those whom He foreknew, He
 also predestined. All of those He
 predestined, He also called; and all
of those He called, He also justified;
and all of those He justified, He also
               glorified.”


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“Some” Fails the Test
1. If “some” is used as a qualifier, then
   the Golden Chain becomes
   nonsensical. If God‟s predestination
   is based on Him knowing how people
   will respond to the call of the
   Gospel, then why predestine only
   some and call only some? This would
   have God predestining some who are
   not called
2. If some of the predestined are
   predestined without a call, then God
   could not be basing His choice on
   their response to His call. God can‟t
   have foreknowledge of a person‟s
   non-answer to a non-call.


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“All” also Defeats the Prescient Position
“For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to
become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He
 would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these
 whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom
   He called, He also justified; and these whom He
              justified, He also glorified. ”
                    (Romans 8:29–30)

  Is the call above an inward or outward call?
  Does everyone get the call? If “all” is used
       then either a person must embrace
universalism OR admit that there is an inward
call, performed by God on a person, that not
 everyone gets because those who are called
                  are justified.

 This means the foreknowledge view of the
 Prescients is dealt a death blow because it
says God predestines an inward call – He is
 doing something in the hearts of only those
     predestined so they will respond.
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The Prescient view disrupts the Order of the Chain
“For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to
become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He
 would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these
 whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom
   He called, He also justified; and these whom He
              justified, He also glorified. ”
                    (Romans 8:29–30)

 The Prescient view says God knows those
 who will respond to His call and choose Him
  and so therefore He chooses them. This
   means predestination would come after
calling because God would need to put out a
call, know who will response, and then choose
them. But the Golden Chain specifically has
 calling after predestination meaning that the
call that goes out is the effectual call of God
 and not a generic all to salvation. Further we
 are justified by faith. Yet the Prescients say
 people exhibit faith first, which is also out of
                order in the chain.
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The Interpretation of the Golden Chain




“For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the
  image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and
 these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also
            justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. ”
                                 (Romans 8:29–30)
 The Reformed view says the Father knew His chosen ones from all eternity and
fore-loved them. All these that He foreknew He also predestined to be a Bride
for His Son. He then effectually called them, justified them through the death of
             Christ, and glorified them to spend eternity with Him.

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But doesn‟t the Bible say that God wants
        everyone to be saved?
The “Big Two” Verses




   “This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who
 desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
                           (1 Timothy 2:3–4)

“The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is
 patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to
                             repentance.”
                             (2 Peter 3:9)
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Does God will or desire things that don‟t
               happen?
Two Possibilities

1. There is a power in the
   universe greater than
   God‟s that is frustrating
   Him by overruling what He
   wills.
2. God wills not to save all,
   even though He is willing
   to save all, because there is
   something else that He
   wills more, which would be
   lost if He exerted His
   sovereign power to save all.
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Possible Ideas for Option 2

1. The Arminian answer is
   that God values human
   self-determination and the
   possible love relationship
   more than saving all people
   via His efficacious grace
2. The Reformed position is
   that God doesn‟t save all
   so as to show His glory in
   mercy and grace (cf. Rom.
   9) and that God receives
   all the credit for salvation
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The “Big Two” Verses




“This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be
         saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. ” (1 Timothy 2:3–4)

“The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward
  you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. ” (2 Peter 3:9)

Note that NEITHER answer is found in the context of either 1
Tim. 2 or 2 Pet. 3, but BOTH affirm there are different wills in
God. We must look elsewhere to find the answer to the dilemma.
        Let‟s start by examining the various wills in God.
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Three Possible Wills in God
1. Decretive will - this form of God‟s
   will describes something that
   absolutely will happen and is
   unstoppable / irresistible (e.g.
   creating the universe; calling of
   Paul)
2. Prescriptive will – this describes
   something God morally prescribes
   for all, but may be disobeyed (e.g.
   the ten commandments)
3. Dispositional will – that which
   pleases or delights God, but may
   be resisted (e.g. not delighting in
   the death of the wicked)

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Examples of the Wills of God in Action




           The Hardening of Pharaoh‟s Heart
  First we see: “Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh and say to him,
„Thus says the Lord, let My people go, that they may serve Me‟” (Exodus 8:1).
And then: “The Lord said to Moses, „When you go back to Egypt see that you
 perform before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in your power; but I will
 harden his heart so that he will not let the people go” (Exodus 4:21) . Even the
 debate of whether Pharaoh hardened his own heart in some of the cases cannot
      avoid the clear example of the prescriptive and decretive wills of God.

       God must will in one sense what He does not will in another sense.
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Other Examples of God’s Hardening
“But Sihon king of Heshbon was not willing for us to pass through his land; for the Lord
 your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, in order to deliver him into
                   your hand, as he is today. ” (Deuteronomy 2:30)

 “There was not a city which made peace with the sons of Israel except the Hivites living in
Gibeon; they took them all in battle. For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, to meet
Israel in battle in order that he might utterly destroy them, that they might receive no mercy,
          but that he might destroy them, just as the Lord had commanded Moses. ”
                                      (Joshua 11:19–20)

  “And He was saying to them, “To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of
God, but those who are outside get everything in parables, so that while seeing, they may
see and not perceive, and while hearing, they may hear and not understand, otherwise they
                     might return and be forgiven.” ” (Mark 4:11–12)

“Just as it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, Eyes to see not and ears to hear
                          not, Down to this very day” (Romans 11:8)

  “For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe
                        what is false, ” (2 Thessalonians 2:11)
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Examples of the Wills of God in Action




                      The Death of Christ
  It was not the prescriptive will of God that Judas, Pilate, Herod, the Jewish
        leaders, and the Roman soldiers would betray, mock, lie about, and
brutalize/murder Jesus. But Isaiah 53:0 says: “Yet it was the will of the LORD
       to crush him” and Acts 2:23 states: “this Man, delivered over by the
  predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the
                   hands of godless men and put Him to death.”

       God must will in one sense what He does not will in another sense.

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Examples of the Wills of God in Action




                 The War Against the Lamb
“And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and
will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with
  fire. For God has put it in their hearts to execute His purpose by having a
 common purpose, and by giving their kingdom to the beast, until the words of
  God will be fulfilled” (Revelation 17:16–17) . God sovereignly directs the
Antichrist and unbelievers to war against Christ, which He prescriptively wants
                                  no one to do.

      God must will in one sense what He does not will in another sense.
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God’s Will in areas of Sin/death


 “Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked,” declares the
Lord God, “rather than that he should turn from his ways and live? ”
                          (Ezekiel 18:23)
                                Vs.
  “But they [the sons of Eli] would not listen to the voice of their
        father, for the Lord desired to put them to death.”
                         (1 Samuel 2:25)

God evidently willed the death of Eli‟s sons in one sense while not
     desiring the death of the wicked in another sense. The
dispositional will is seen in the first verse and the decretive will in the
                                 second.


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Let’s Return to The “Big Two” Verses
   “This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who
 desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. ”
                            (1 Timothy 2:3–4)

“The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is
 patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to
                             repentance. ”
                             (2 Peter 3:9)

Question: Which will of God is in vogue in the above verses? It cannot be
the decretive will of God or everyone would be saved. It could be the
prescriptive will of God, but seems odd in that, in a moral sense, God
„forbids‟ people to perish. The best application is that this is God‟s
dispositional will. In the same sense that He does not delight in the death
of the wicked, God takes no pleasure in people rejecting Him.


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The Analogy of the Courtroom




   In the same way that a righteous judge carries out his duty to
  sentence criminals to punishment but does not have any gleeful
delight in doing it, God also carries out justice against sinners, but
 His dispositional will is that no one be lost. While a dispositional
desire is for everyone to be saved, there is a higher purpose why all
                                are not.
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So What is God’s Higher Purpose?




Respect for human freedom or God‟s glory and purpose?

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So What is God’s Higher Purpose?




  We‟ll have to tackle this in the next lesson…

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Conclusions



• Why does God predestine some for salvation?
• It is in accordance to his own good pleasure.

• What stance on predestination appears most tenable?
• Between the prescient, molinist, and Augustinian positions,
  the Augustinian/Reformed stance appears more reasonable
  from a Biblical standpoint.

• But doesn‟t God desire all to be saved?
• Answering requires that we understand the various „wills‟ in
  God. The full answer to this question will be given next time.
God’s Sovereignty
 and Salvation
      Part 2

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Sovereignty, Free Will, and Salvation - God's Sovereignty over Salvation Part 2

  • 1. Sovereignty Free Will & Salvation
  • 2. God’s Sovereignty and Salvation Part 2
  • 3. Review from Last Time • What is God‟s sovereignty? • It is His absolute right to do all things according to his own good pleasure. • Is predestination a Biblical concept? • Without question, Scripture underscores God‟s work of predestination in His creation. • How does predestination work with salvation? • God predestines both the plan and the man/woman.
  • 4. Why does God choose some for salvation?
  • 5. Why Does God Choose Some? “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love. He destined us for adoption as his children through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace that he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. (Ephesians 1:3–6) “So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure. ” (Philippians 2:12–13) www.confidentchristians.org
  • 6. The Father Has Chosen a Bride For the Son In ancient times, a father always chose a bride for his son. And a price was always paid to the father for the bride. Scripture states that the Father has chosen a Bride for His Son, with His Son paying the cost for his chosen Bride. And in the end, the Son gives everything back to the Father. John 6 John 17 1 Cor. 15 “All that the Father “Jesus spoke these things; “But each in his own gives Me will come to and lifting up His eyes to order: Christ the first Me, and the one who heaven, He said, “Father, fruits, after that those comes to Me I will the hour has come; glorify who are Christ‟s at His certainly not cast out. . . . Your Son, that the Son coming, then comes the This is the will of Him may glorify You, even as end, when He hands over who sent Me, that of all You gave Him authority the kingdom to the God that He has given Me I over all flesh, that to all and Father, when He has lose nothing, but raise it whom You have given Him, abolished all rule and all up on the last day. ” He may give eternal life. ” authority and power. ” (John 6:37, 39) (John 17:1–2) (1 Cor. 15:23–24) www.confidentchristians.org
  • 7. What are the core positions of how God predestines some for salvation?
  • 8. 1. Prescient position 2. Molinist position 3. Augustinian/Reformed position
  • 9. The Prescient Position Prescient „knowledge of things before they exist or happen‟; „foreknowledge‟; „foresight‟. The prescient position says God does choose people for salvation, but his choice is based on His foreknowledge of what people will do. God looks down through history, and knows in advance who will respond to the call of the gospel message and who will not. God chooses some based on His knowledge of them responding to the call and them having faith. God‟s choice is conditional on a person‟s faith.
  • 10. The Prescient Position “For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. ” (Romans 8:29–30) “Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who reside as aliens, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood” (1 Peter 1:1–2) www.confidentchristians.org
  • 11. The Molinist Position Developed by the Jesuit Luis de Molina, the Molinist position is much like the prescient view, although the concept of „middle knowledge‟ is what distinguishes it from all other positions. According to Molinism, God arranges the world as he chooses based on his middle knowledge. God exercises sovereign control in the sense that he creates the person he wishes to create and brings about the circumstances he wills, knowing just what choices all those persons will make in the circumstances he has brought about. Molinism is not a compromise position between the prescient and Augustinian positions; rather, it is a variation on the prescient view. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 12. The Molinist Position “Then He began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles were done, because they did not repent. “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. “Nevertheless I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you. “And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day. “Nevertheless I say to you that it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for you.” ” (Matthew 11:20–24) www.confidentchristians.org
  • 13. The Augustinian/Reformed Position The Reformed position (credited first to Augustine) does not deny God has foreknowledge nor that He has the ability to know everything that could or will be. However, it holds to a different view of predestination. According to Reformed theology, from all eternity God knew His elect. For reasons known only to God Himself, He elected some to salvation with there being no condition whatsoever imposed on the individual. God chose some for Himself and allows all others to continue in their freely chosen sin and eventually experience His justice. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 14. The Augustinian/Reformed Position “When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed. ” (Acts 13:48) Notice: it does not say “and as many as believed, God appointed to eternal life” “A woman named Lydia, from the city of Thyatira, a seller of purple fabrics, a worshiper of God, was listening; and the Lord opened her heart to respond to the things spoken by Paul. ” (Acts 16:14) “For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. . . . So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. ” (Romans 9:15–16, 18) www.confidentchristians.org
  • 15. The Augustinian/Reformed Position “All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. ” (Matthew 11:27) “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. ” (John 6:37) “Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. ” (John 17:24) “For this reason I endure all things for the sake of those who are chosen, so that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus and with it eternal glory. ” (2 Timothy 2:10) www.confidentchristians.org
  • 16. What is the primary difference between the prescient and Augustinian positions? The first is primarily based on man‟s choice and the second in God‟s choice. The first is based primarily on the willing of the unbeliever and the latter on the willing of God.
  • 17. A Closer Look at the “Golden Chain” “For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. ” (Romans 8:29–30) This passage is referred to as the “Golden Chain” or “The Order of Salvation” (Ordo Salutis) by theologians. It is the primary versed used by those who hold the Prescient view. But does it really support that position? www.confidentchristians.org
  • 18. A Closer Look at the “Golden Chain” “For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. ” (Romans 8:29–30) First, Paul doesn‟t say that foreknowledge is the basis of God‟s predestination; that their salvation is based on them choosing God and responding to His call. This position is imported into the text by Prescients. Paul simply says God predestines those He foreknew, which makes sense: God must know people before He predestines them for salvation. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 19. “Some” or “All”? “Some of those whom He foreknew, He also predestined. Some of those He predestined, He also called; and some of those He called, He also justified; and some of those He justified, He also glorified.” “All of those whom He foreknew, He also predestined. All of those He predestined, He also called; and all of those He called, He also justified; and all of those He justified, He also glorified.” www.confidentchristians.org
  • 20. “Some” Fails the Test 1. If “some” is used as a qualifier, then the Golden Chain becomes nonsensical. If God‟s predestination is based on Him knowing how people will respond to the call of the Gospel, then why predestine only some and call only some? This would have God predestining some who are not called 2. If some of the predestined are predestined without a call, then God could not be basing His choice on their response to His call. God can‟t have foreknowledge of a person‟s non-answer to a non-call. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 21. “All” also Defeats the Prescient Position “For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. ” (Romans 8:29–30) Is the call above an inward or outward call? Does everyone get the call? If “all” is used then either a person must embrace universalism OR admit that there is an inward call, performed by God on a person, that not everyone gets because those who are called are justified. This means the foreknowledge view of the Prescients is dealt a death blow because it says God predestines an inward call – He is doing something in the hearts of only those predestined so they will respond. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 22. The Prescient view disrupts the Order of the Chain “For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. ” (Romans 8:29–30) The Prescient view says God knows those who will respond to His call and choose Him and so therefore He chooses them. This means predestination would come after calling because God would need to put out a call, know who will response, and then choose them. But the Golden Chain specifically has calling after predestination meaning that the call that goes out is the effectual call of God and not a generic all to salvation. Further we are justified by faith. Yet the Prescients say people exhibit faith first, which is also out of order in the chain. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 23. The Interpretation of the Golden Chain “For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. ” (Romans 8:29–30) The Reformed view says the Father knew His chosen ones from all eternity and fore-loved them. All these that He foreknew He also predestined to be a Bride for His Son. He then effectually called them, justified them through the death of Christ, and glorified them to spend eternity with Him. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 24. But doesn‟t the Bible say that God wants everyone to be saved?
  • 25. The “Big Two” Verses “This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.” (1 Timothy 2:3–4) “The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9) www.confidentchristians.org
  • 26. Does God will or desire things that don‟t happen?
  • 27. Two Possibilities 1. There is a power in the universe greater than God‟s that is frustrating Him by overruling what He wills. 2. God wills not to save all, even though He is willing to save all, because there is something else that He wills more, which would be lost if He exerted His sovereign power to save all. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 28. Possible Ideas for Option 2 1. The Arminian answer is that God values human self-determination and the possible love relationship more than saving all people via His efficacious grace 2. The Reformed position is that God doesn‟t save all so as to show His glory in mercy and grace (cf. Rom. 9) and that God receives all the credit for salvation www.confidentchristians.org
  • 29. The “Big Two” Verses “This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. ” (1 Timothy 2:3–4) “The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. ” (2 Peter 3:9) Note that NEITHER answer is found in the context of either 1 Tim. 2 or 2 Pet. 3, but BOTH affirm there are different wills in God. We must look elsewhere to find the answer to the dilemma. Let‟s start by examining the various wills in God. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 30. Three Possible Wills in God 1. Decretive will - this form of God‟s will describes something that absolutely will happen and is unstoppable / irresistible (e.g. creating the universe; calling of Paul) 2. Prescriptive will – this describes something God morally prescribes for all, but may be disobeyed (e.g. the ten commandments) 3. Dispositional will – that which pleases or delights God, but may be resisted (e.g. not delighting in the death of the wicked) www.confidentchristians.org
  • 31. Examples of the Wills of God in Action The Hardening of Pharaoh‟s Heart First we see: “Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh and say to him, „Thus says the Lord, let My people go, that they may serve Me‟” (Exodus 8:1). And then: “The Lord said to Moses, „When you go back to Egypt see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in your power; but I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go” (Exodus 4:21) . Even the debate of whether Pharaoh hardened his own heart in some of the cases cannot avoid the clear example of the prescriptive and decretive wills of God. God must will in one sense what He does not will in another sense. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 32. Other Examples of God’s Hardening “But Sihon king of Heshbon was not willing for us to pass through his land; for the Lord your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, in order to deliver him into your hand, as he is today. ” (Deuteronomy 2:30) “There was not a city which made peace with the sons of Israel except the Hivites living in Gibeon; they took them all in battle. For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, to meet Israel in battle in order that he might utterly destroy them, that they might receive no mercy, but that he might destroy them, just as the Lord had commanded Moses. ” (Joshua 11:19–20) “And He was saying to them, “To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God, but those who are outside get everything in parables, so that while seeing, they may see and not perceive, and while hearing, they may hear and not understand, otherwise they might return and be forgiven.” ” (Mark 4:11–12) “Just as it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, Eyes to see not and ears to hear not, Down to this very day” (Romans 11:8) “For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, ” (2 Thessalonians 2:11) www.confidentchristians.org
  • 33. Examples of the Wills of God in Action The Death of Christ It was not the prescriptive will of God that Judas, Pilate, Herod, the Jewish leaders, and the Roman soldiers would betray, mock, lie about, and brutalize/murder Jesus. But Isaiah 53:0 says: “Yet it was the will of the LORD to crush him” and Acts 2:23 states: “this Man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.” God must will in one sense what He does not will in another sense. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 34. Examples of the Wills of God in Action The War Against the Lamb “And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire. For God has put it in their hearts to execute His purpose by having a common purpose, and by giving their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God will be fulfilled” (Revelation 17:16–17) . God sovereignly directs the Antichrist and unbelievers to war against Christ, which He prescriptively wants no one to do. God must will in one sense what He does not will in another sense. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 35. God’s Will in areas of Sin/death “Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked,” declares the Lord God, “rather than that he should turn from his ways and live? ” (Ezekiel 18:23) Vs. “But they [the sons of Eli] would not listen to the voice of their father, for the Lord desired to put them to death.” (1 Samuel 2:25) God evidently willed the death of Eli‟s sons in one sense while not desiring the death of the wicked in another sense. The dispositional will is seen in the first verse and the decretive will in the second. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 36. Let’s Return to The “Big Two” Verses “This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. ” (1 Timothy 2:3–4) “The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. ” (2 Peter 3:9) Question: Which will of God is in vogue in the above verses? It cannot be the decretive will of God or everyone would be saved. It could be the prescriptive will of God, but seems odd in that, in a moral sense, God „forbids‟ people to perish. The best application is that this is God‟s dispositional will. In the same sense that He does not delight in the death of the wicked, God takes no pleasure in people rejecting Him. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 37. The Analogy of the Courtroom In the same way that a righteous judge carries out his duty to sentence criminals to punishment but does not have any gleeful delight in doing it, God also carries out justice against sinners, but His dispositional will is that no one be lost. While a dispositional desire is for everyone to be saved, there is a higher purpose why all are not. www.confidentchristians.org
  • 38. So What is God’s Higher Purpose? Respect for human freedom or God‟s glory and purpose? www.confidentchristians.org
  • 39. So What is God’s Higher Purpose? We‟ll have to tackle this in the next lesson… www.confidentchristians.org
  • 40. Conclusions • Why does God predestine some for salvation? • It is in accordance to his own good pleasure. • What stance on predestination appears most tenable? • Between the prescient, molinist, and Augustinian positions, the Augustinian/Reformed stance appears more reasonable from a Biblical standpoint. • But doesn‟t God desire all to be saved? • Answering requires that we understand the various „wills‟ in God. The full answer to this question will be given next time.
  • 41. God’s Sovereignty and Salvation Part 2