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TALLER DE PRÁCTICAS
DOCENTES III
IFDC – 2012
TEACHERS: ANDREA
PUCHMÜLLER, LUCÍA QUIROGA
STUDENTS: ADELA PEREZ DEL
VISO, MARCELA CLARK
 What

is fate?



1- the development of
events outside a person´s
control, regarded as
predetermined by a
supernatural power



2- the outcome of a situation
for someone or something



 What

is free will?



the power of acting
without the constraint of
necessity or fate; the
ability to act at one´s
own discretion



Implies choice

3- the unescapable death of a
person
WordReference.com
 “The

actual hijacking of the body took place
about one second before the guy was about to
step out from behind a parked SUV into the
street and get iced, as they say, by a speeding
cement mixer”
Kiriel (p.3)


“Shaun would not have been here, whether I
had taken his body or not.” Kiriel p.43

 “Shaun

would have died whether I´d stepped in
or not. Those last moments I took from him
would have been filled with either pain or
nothingness” p.86


“Sometimes... People like to feel that any good
fortune they have is due to their own wise choices.
That´s true sometimes, but a lot of the time it just
comes down to random chance” K. (p.160)



“Maybe I never had to be in Hell, not for a single
moment.” Kiriel.(p.175)



“You have interrupted the trajectory of his existence”
... “The man who was supposed to hit Shaun didn´t,
so his trajectory has to be remade as well”
Hanael. (p.213)
HANAEL & KIRIEL:
 “You

must leave Shaun´s body in the same
manner in which you took it”
 “Are you saying I´ve got to step in front of
a truck?”
 “Just so.”
(p.213)
 1-

ARMED RESISTANCE TO AN
ESTABLISHED GOVERNMENT OR
RULER

 2-

DEFIANCE OF AUTHORITY OR
CONTROL
To be out To brake
of place

rules.

To defy

CONSEQUENCES.
“I wanted to do more
than appreciate, exalt,
and honor (God); I
wanted to take an
active hand in the
creation of the cosmos,
to have an influence
that was all my own.
The Rebellion was not a
physical act, it was a
SPIRITUAL UPRISING,
AN UNAUTHORIZED
OUTPOURING OF
ZEAL” P.37.

2 Peter 2:4
For if God did not spare angels when they
sinned, but cast them into hell and committed “The Boss led the Rebellion, the
them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept
whopper of revolts, the
until the judgment;
insurrection.” P. 172
FALLEN ANGEL--“The Fallen, wondered, questioned, confronted,
eventually demanded, and in general pushed the
edges of the envelope till the envelope burst. “

Kiriel, in
Repossessed.
P. 9

OUT OF PLACE. A PLACE NOT ALLOWED.
“I was out of my sphere, ou of my
designated place in the scheme of
the universe. What I was doing
WASN`T ALLOWED.

Kiriel, in
Repossessed.
P. 35
 BREAKING

RULES:

“You`re breaking about
a million rules right
now”. “You´re
supposed to oversee
the torment of souls”.

ANIUS, Hell Manager, overseer of the
overseers. (P. 171).
 DEFIANCE
“Of all the beings to send for me, they`d
picked the one who annoyed me the most.
The one I couldn`t stand to listen to.
“Wah, Wah, Wah”, I said…”
“Go back to Hell, I`m on vacation”.
(Kyriel, P. 171).
CONSEQUENCES OF REBELLION AND AUTONOMY:
FEAR.

“I`d done that which shouldn´t be done. Would I
now end up in my own domain, this time
undergoing the same interminable torments I´d
always supervised?? (P.-36).
 Is

it a young-adult-exclusive theme?

FATE AND
FREE WILL.
It is not an
exclusive topic
of young-adults.

It is a huge
topic that
worries
everyone.

REBELLION

It is typical of
adolescents.

But Adults also try to defy rules.
Mostly when they think rules
are unfair, and nobody is seeing
them.
FATE AND FREE WILL

REBELLION

YES. Different views.

Yes, it is debatible.

PHYLOSOPHY// TEOLOGY.

It has to do with: RULES/ LAW/ THE
UNFAIR/ JUSTICE.
 www.wordreference.com

 JENKINS,

A.M., Repossessed, Harper
Collins, New York, 2009.
 www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/real/freewill
.htm.
 The painting: “Satan before the
Lord.”Around 1750. Oil on canvas, 88 x
117 cm-Corrado Giaquinto.

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Repossessed- some aspects of the book

  • 1. TALLER DE PRÁCTICAS DOCENTES III IFDC – 2012 TEACHERS: ANDREA PUCHMÜLLER, LUCÍA QUIROGA STUDENTS: ADELA PEREZ DEL VISO, MARCELA CLARK
  • 2.  What is fate?  1- the development of events outside a person´s control, regarded as predetermined by a supernatural power  2- the outcome of a situation for someone or something   What is free will?  the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one´s own discretion  Implies choice 3- the unescapable death of a person WordReference.com
  • 3.  “The actual hijacking of the body took place about one second before the guy was about to step out from behind a parked SUV into the street and get iced, as they say, by a speeding cement mixer” Kiriel (p.3)
  • 4.  “Shaun would not have been here, whether I had taken his body or not.” Kiriel p.43  “Shaun would have died whether I´d stepped in or not. Those last moments I took from him would have been filled with either pain or nothingness” p.86
  • 5.  “Sometimes... People like to feel that any good fortune they have is due to their own wise choices. That´s true sometimes, but a lot of the time it just comes down to random chance” K. (p.160)  “Maybe I never had to be in Hell, not for a single moment.” Kiriel.(p.175)  “You have interrupted the trajectory of his existence” ... “The man who was supposed to hit Shaun didn´t, so his trajectory has to be remade as well” Hanael. (p.213)
  • 6. HANAEL & KIRIEL:  “You must leave Shaun´s body in the same manner in which you took it”  “Are you saying I´ve got to step in front of a truck?”  “Just so.” (p.213)
  • 7.  1- ARMED RESISTANCE TO AN ESTABLISHED GOVERNMENT OR RULER  2- DEFIANCE OF AUTHORITY OR CONTROL To be out To brake of place rules. To defy CONSEQUENCES.
  • 8. “I wanted to do more than appreciate, exalt, and honor (God); I wanted to take an active hand in the creation of the cosmos, to have an influence that was all my own. The Rebellion was not a physical act, it was a SPIRITUAL UPRISING, AN UNAUTHORIZED OUTPOURING OF ZEAL” P.37. 2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed “The Boss led the Rebellion, the them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept whopper of revolts, the until the judgment; insurrection.” P. 172
  • 9. FALLEN ANGEL--“The Fallen, wondered, questioned, confronted, eventually demanded, and in general pushed the edges of the envelope till the envelope burst. “ Kiriel, in Repossessed. P. 9 OUT OF PLACE. A PLACE NOT ALLOWED. “I was out of my sphere, ou of my designated place in the scheme of the universe. What I was doing WASN`T ALLOWED. Kiriel, in Repossessed. P. 35
  • 10.  BREAKING RULES: “You`re breaking about a million rules right now”. “You´re supposed to oversee the torment of souls”. ANIUS, Hell Manager, overseer of the overseers. (P. 171).
  • 11.  DEFIANCE “Of all the beings to send for me, they`d picked the one who annoyed me the most. The one I couldn`t stand to listen to. “Wah, Wah, Wah”, I said…” “Go back to Hell, I`m on vacation”. (Kyriel, P. 171).
  • 12. CONSEQUENCES OF REBELLION AND AUTONOMY: FEAR. “I`d done that which shouldn´t be done. Would I now end up in my own domain, this time undergoing the same interminable torments I´d always supervised?? (P.-36).
  • 13.  Is it a young-adult-exclusive theme? FATE AND FREE WILL. It is not an exclusive topic of young-adults. It is a huge topic that worries everyone. REBELLION It is typical of adolescents. But Adults also try to defy rules. Mostly when they think rules are unfair, and nobody is seeing them.
  • 14. FATE AND FREE WILL REBELLION YES. Different views. Yes, it is debatible. PHYLOSOPHY// TEOLOGY. It has to do with: RULES/ LAW/ THE UNFAIR/ JUSTICE.
  • 15.  www.wordreference.com  JENKINS, A.M., Repossessed, Harper Collins, New York, 2009.  www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/real/freewill .htm.  The painting: “Satan before the Lord.”Around 1750. Oil on canvas, 88 x 117 cm-Corrado Giaquinto.