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Postgres needs an
                          Aircraft Carrier
                              Selena Deckelmann
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                           (with help from Dave Page)
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Statistics (aka proof)
           In 2011:

                • 8 conferences in the US and Canada
                • 7 conferences in Europe and Russia
                • Many conferences in Japan
                • Many conferences in South America
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What we know
                • Other commercial database vendors are
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                • We need a Postgres Cruise.
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But...


                • Cruise liners typically house 4000 people.
                • That’s expensive to rent out.
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We need another
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Short Marketing
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                • Crossing the Chasm
                  (could be interpreted as a boating analogy)
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The Chasm
                • “Visionaries” vs. “Pragmatists”
                • We need to figure out who the Pragmatists
                  are. And dominate some market segments.
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FILL OUT THIS
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Back to the carrier

                • Once we figure this marketing thing out, we
                  will capture nearly:
                  30% of the database market.


                • Really.
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30% of the database market is
                                    worth:
                           11.5 BILLION DOLLARS
                            (about € 96 MILLION)
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How much does an
                  aircraft carrier cost?

                • http://wiki.answers.com/Q/
                  How_much_does_an_aircraft_carrier_cost


                • “The Reagan cost $5 billion.”
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HOWEVER


                • We can get them used.
                • For $6 million dollars (approx € 50,000).
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DO YOUR PART.
                • Fill out the survey.
                • Help us capture 30% of the database
                  market.
                • So we can buy an aircraft carrier.
                • And have a Postgres Cruise.
                  THANKS!
PG




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FILL OUT THIS
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                    http://chesnok.com/u/5e
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  • 3. Statistics (aka proof) In 2011: • 8 conferences in the US and Canada • 7 conferences in Europe and Russia • Many conferences in Japan • Many conferences in South America • Made plan for a conference on Mars PG Co nf.E U 20 11
  • 4. What we know • Other commercial database vendors are famous for their boats. PG Co nf.E U 20 11
  • 5. Clearly... • We need a Postgres Cruise. PG Co nf.E U 20 11
  • 6. But... • Cruise liners typically house 4000 people. • That’s expensive to rent out. PG Co nf.E U 20 11
  • 7. We need another option. 1e n1c re0 2 nfe .EU Cfo n mCo e PG So
  • 8. We need an Aircraft Carrier. So PG mCo e Cfo n .EU nfe re0 2 n1c 1e
  • 9. Short Marketing interlude • Crossing the Chasm (could be interpreted as a boating analogy) PG Co nf.E U 20 11
  • 10. The Chasm • “Visionaries” vs. “Pragmatists” • We need to figure out who the Pragmatists are. And dominate some market segments. PG Co nf.E U 20 11
  • 11. FILL OUT THIS SURVEY: http://chesnok.com/u/5e So PG mCo e Cfo n .EU nfe re0 2 n1c 1e
  • 12. Back to the carrier • Once we figure this marketing thing out, we will capture nearly: 30% of the database market. • Really. PG http://chesnok.com/u/5e Co nf.E U 20 11
  • 13. 30% of the database market is worth: 11.5 BILLION DOLLARS (about € 96 MILLION) So PG m http://chesnok.com/u/5e Co e Cfo n .EU nfe re0 2 n1c 1e
  • 14. How much does an aircraft carrier cost? • http://wiki.answers.com/Q/ How_much_does_an_aircraft_carrier_cost • “The Reagan cost $5 billion.” PG http://chesnok.com/u/5e Co nf.E U 20 11
  • 15. HOWEVER • We can get them used. • For $6 million dollars (approx € 50,000). PG http://chesnok.com/u/5e Co nf.E U 20 11
  • 16. DO YOUR PART. • Fill out the survey. • Help us capture 30% of the database market. • So we can buy an aircraft carrier. • And have a Postgres Cruise. THANKS! PG http://chesnok.com/u/5e Co nf.E U 20 11
  • 17. FILL OUT THIS SURVEY: http://chesnok.com/u/5e So PG mCo e Cfo n .EU nfe re0 2 n1c 1e