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“Please Tell Them We’re Not Mongolian”
Identity and History Among the
Dordo of Northeast Tibet
Gerald Roche
DECRA Fellow,
Asia Institute, University of Melbourne
Mongolian Studies Open Conference
Australian National University
Nov 3, 2015
Ethnicity and Assimilation in China:
The Case of the Monguor in Tibet
• ‘Between two Potatoes’: Minority Languages
in Tibet
• Examines the predicament of a group of
people caught between the Tibetan nation
and the Chinese state.
• Dordo (a subgroup of the Monguor/ Tuzu)
Monguor
Rebgong, in the Guchu Valley.
Dordo
Manegacha Ngandehua
1,200km from Lhasa; 1,300km from Beijing; 1,400km from Ulaanbaator
Please Tell Them…
• Shawo Tsering
• Last traditional leader of the Dordo people.
• Wrote a history of the Dordo in Chinese and
was involved with the writing of a history in
Tibetan.
• Claimed that Dordo
were descended from
13th century Mongols.
• Recanted.
The History of Gomar
By Gendun Dondruv
WeChat, June 2015
“I could never consider Dordo people to be
Tibetans. You’re not only not Tibetans, you’re
not even people…. You’re worse than garbage…
You Dordo are dog shit… You can’t read or write
Chinese and you don’t know how to speak it.
You don’t read or write Tibetan and you don’t
know how to speak that either. You don’t know
how to wear Chinese clothes properly and you
don’t know how to wear Tibetan clothes
properly either...”
Language Shift
… language shift appears to be underway among
[Manegacha] speakers… more and more
children… are growing up in otherwise
[Manegacha] speaking homes and villages, but
have Tibetan as their mother tongue. These
children appear to be acquiring only passive
knowledge of [Manegacha].
Fried 2010:11
Scaling Up
• 59 ‘doculects’
• About 80% endangered to varying degrees
• What can the Dordo, and their rejection of
their ‘Mongolian’ past tell us about the future
of linguistic diversity in Tibet?
G.Roche@unimelb.edu.au.
https://unimelb.academia.edu/GeraldRoche
• Roche, Gerald and Kevin Stuart (eds). 2015. Mapping the
Monguor. Special Issue of Asian Highlands Perspectives. 36.
• Fried, Robert. 2010. A Grammar of Bao’an Tu, a Mongolic
Language of Northwest China.
• Lcag mo tshe ring and Gerald Roche. 2013. Notes of the
Maintenance of Diversity in Amdo: Language Use in Gnyan
thog Village Annual Rituals. Studia Orientalia 113: 165-179.
• Roche, Gerald. The Vitality of Tibet’s Minority Languages in
the 21st Century: Preliminary Remarks. Multiethnica 35: 24-
31.
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Please Tell Them We're Not Mongolian: Identity and History Among the Dordo of Northeast Tibet

  • 1. “Please Tell Them We’re Not Mongolian” Identity and History Among the Dordo of Northeast Tibet Gerald Roche DECRA Fellow, Asia Institute, University of Melbourne Mongolian Studies Open Conference Australian National University Nov 3, 2015
  • 2. Ethnicity and Assimilation in China: The Case of the Monguor in Tibet • ‘Between two Potatoes’: Minority Languages in Tibet • Examines the predicament of a group of people caught between the Tibetan nation and the Chinese state. • Dordo (a subgroup of the Monguor/ Tuzu)
  • 4. Rebgong, in the Guchu Valley. Dordo
  • 6. 1,200km from Lhasa; 1,300km from Beijing; 1,400km from Ulaanbaator
  • 7. Please Tell Them… • Shawo Tsering • Last traditional leader of the Dordo people. • Wrote a history of the Dordo in Chinese and was involved with the writing of a history in Tibetan.
  • 8. • Claimed that Dordo were descended from 13th century Mongols. • Recanted.
  • 9. The History of Gomar By Gendun Dondruv
  • 10. WeChat, June 2015 “I could never consider Dordo people to be Tibetans. You’re not only not Tibetans, you’re not even people…. You’re worse than garbage… You Dordo are dog shit… You can’t read or write Chinese and you don’t know how to speak it. You don’t read or write Tibetan and you don’t know how to speak that either. You don’t know how to wear Chinese clothes properly and you don’t know how to wear Tibetan clothes properly either...”
  • 11. Language Shift … language shift appears to be underway among [Manegacha] speakers… more and more children… are growing up in otherwise [Manegacha] speaking homes and villages, but have Tibetan as their mother tongue. These children appear to be acquiring only passive knowledge of [Manegacha]. Fried 2010:11
  • 12. Scaling Up • 59 ‘doculects’ • About 80% endangered to varying degrees • What can the Dordo, and their rejection of their ‘Mongolian’ past tell us about the future of linguistic diversity in Tibet?
  • 13. G.Roche@unimelb.edu.au. https://unimelb.academia.edu/GeraldRoche • Roche, Gerald and Kevin Stuart (eds). 2015. Mapping the Monguor. Special Issue of Asian Highlands Perspectives. 36. • Fried, Robert. 2010. A Grammar of Bao’an Tu, a Mongolic Language of Northwest China. • Lcag mo tshe ring and Gerald Roche. 2013. Notes of the Maintenance of Diversity in Amdo: Language Use in Gnyan thog Village Annual Rituals. Studia Orientalia 113: 165-179. • Roche, Gerald. The Vitality of Tibet’s Minority Languages in the 21st Century: Preliminary Remarks. Multiethnica 35: 24- 31. References and Contact