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Landlords and the 2% Rule
David Faulkner
Director
John Crocker and Associates
29th September 2015
Johncrocker.nz Ltd Licensed under the REAA 2008
About the presenter
David Faulkner
• 11 years experience
• Been a Property Manager
• Former chair of REINZ Sector
Group
• Now Director of John Crocker
and Associates
• Live in Wellington
What this webinar is about
• Focusing on the benefits of a positive
relationship
• Result of this is fewer losses
• Internal growth
• Word of mouth referral
• Extending the life time value
Why do we lose them?
Sell
40%
Reoccupied
20%
We ended
5%
OTHER
35%
How Many do you Lose a Year?
Between 15% and 20% per year
What Do Landlords Think
when the Property
Manager Calls?
How much is this going to cost?
How do Property Managers
feel about calling their
owners?
It does not have to be this way
What is your Property to Landlord
Ratio?
Between 1.3 and 1.4
Properties per
Landlord Client
Staff to Property Ratio
• Most common system used is portfolio
based
• Seeing an increase in POD system
• Approximately 80 to 90 properties per
member of staff
• Property managers manage on
average approximately 130
Approximately each
Property Manager will have
100 Landlord Clients to look
after
How often shall we call a
landlord client with
something positive?
1 Call every 3 Months
4 Positive Calls a Year
How long does a positive call
take?
Approximately
5 minutes
4 calls to 100 landlords
= 400 calls per year
How Many Workdays
• 365 days in the year
• Take away weekends
• Four weeks annual leave
• Statutory Holidays
229 Working Days Per Year
400 Phone calls
229 Working days
2 calls per day
How many working
minutes in the day?
480 minutes
2 Calls per day = 10 minutes
480 working minutes per day
100%
Are your landlords worth 2% of
your time?
Why don’t we do it?
FEAR!
What are Afraid of?
• Being asked a difficult question
• Prompting them to sack you or sell
• Scared of looking stupid
• They may remember a bad
experience
• Create more work
• Or they may take over the
management
10 Reasons to Call
1. Inspection
2. New tenant made first payment
3. New landlord, first statement
4. Annual rent review
5. Client function
10 Reasons to Call
6. Follow up on repairs
7. Changes in Legislation
8. Year End Statement to Accountant
9. Annual planning for investors
10. Do you want buy more?
What is a Life Time Value?
• $400 per week at 8%
• $20,800 in rent per year
• $1,664
• Life span of 5 years
• $8,320 + 2 letting fees $9,120
• Rent increases and ancillary fees
• TOTAL LTV = $10,000
What happens if we extend
by 2 years?
1. Life time value extends by
approximately $14,000 and $15,000
2. Other benefit they may buy more
3. Aim to get property to landlord ratio
to 2:1
Your Pie Chart Should Look
Like This
Sell
60%
Reoccupied
25%
Sacked
0%
Other
15%
If you do this for 12 months
the end result will be
1. You will grow your rent roll
2. You will lose less properties
3. Your investors will buy more
4. You will get more referrals
Thank you
4th November: Auckland
11th November: Wellington
18th November: Christchurch
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www.johncrocker.nz

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Landlords and the 2% Rule

  • 1. Landlords and the 2% Rule David Faulkner Director John Crocker and Associates 29th September 2015 Johncrocker.nz Ltd Licensed under the REAA 2008
  • 2. About the presenter David Faulkner • 11 years experience • Been a Property Manager • Former chair of REINZ Sector Group • Now Director of John Crocker and Associates • Live in Wellington
  • 3. What this webinar is about • Focusing on the benefits of a positive relationship • Result of this is fewer losses • Internal growth • Word of mouth referral • Extending the life time value
  • 4. Why do we lose them? Sell 40% Reoccupied 20% We ended 5% OTHER 35%
  • 5. How Many do you Lose a Year? Between 15% and 20% per year
  • 6. What Do Landlords Think when the Property Manager Calls?
  • 7.
  • 8. How much is this going to cost?
  • 9. How do Property Managers feel about calling their owners?
  • 10.
  • 11. It does not have to be this way
  • 12.
  • 13. What is your Property to Landlord Ratio?
  • 14. Between 1.3 and 1.4 Properties per Landlord Client
  • 15. Staff to Property Ratio • Most common system used is portfolio based • Seeing an increase in POD system • Approximately 80 to 90 properties per member of staff • Property managers manage on average approximately 130
  • 16. Approximately each Property Manager will have 100 Landlord Clients to look after
  • 17. How often shall we call a landlord client with something positive?
  • 18. 1 Call every 3 Months 4 Positive Calls a Year
  • 19. How long does a positive call take? Approximately 5 minutes
  • 20. 4 calls to 100 landlords = 400 calls per year
  • 21. How Many Workdays • 365 days in the year • Take away weekends • Four weeks annual leave • Statutory Holidays 229 Working Days Per Year
  • 22. 400 Phone calls 229 Working days 2 calls per day
  • 23. How many working minutes in the day? 480 minutes
  • 24. 2 Calls per day = 10 minutes 480 working minutes per day 100%
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  • 26. Are your landlords worth 2% of your time?
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  • 28. Why don’t we do it?
  • 29. FEAR!
  • 30. What are Afraid of? • Being asked a difficult question • Prompting them to sack you or sell • Scared of looking stupid • They may remember a bad experience • Create more work • Or they may take over the management
  • 31. 10 Reasons to Call 1. Inspection 2. New tenant made first payment 3. New landlord, first statement 4. Annual rent review 5. Client function
  • 32. 10 Reasons to Call 6. Follow up on repairs 7. Changes in Legislation 8. Year End Statement to Accountant 9. Annual planning for investors 10. Do you want buy more?
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  • 34. What is a Life Time Value? • $400 per week at 8% • $20,800 in rent per year • $1,664 • Life span of 5 years • $8,320 + 2 letting fees $9,120 • Rent increases and ancillary fees • TOTAL LTV = $10,000
  • 35. What happens if we extend by 2 years? 1. Life time value extends by approximately $14,000 and $15,000 2. Other benefit they may buy more 3. Aim to get property to landlord ratio to 2:1
  • 36. Your Pie Chart Should Look Like This Sell 60% Reoccupied 25% Sacked 0% Other 15%
  • 37. If you do this for 12 months the end result will be
  • 38. 1. You will grow your rent roll 2. You will lose less properties 3. Your investors will buy more 4. You will get more referrals
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