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VARNASRAMA
WITHOUT
GURUKULA?
JUST A HOBBY
“YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISHVARNASRAMA.”
– Morning Walk, Mayapura, 5 Feb 1976
THREE GUNAS
3 GUNAS
BHAGAVAD-GITA 18.19
“According to the three
different modes of
material nature, there are
three kinds of knowledge.”
VARNASRAMA
CONCEPTIONS
in tamas
in rajas
in sattva
What can we agree on?
MORNING WALK,
VRINDAVANA, 14 MARCH 1974
“Now you be trained up and
revise the whole edition of
the western civilization,
especially in America.Then a
new chapter will come in.This
is the program.Therefore
varnasrama school required.”
Society
Education
Education
Guru-kula
Varnasrama
school
Varnasrama
“In the system of
varnasrama-dharma,
which is the
beginning of actual
human life, small
boys after five years
of age are sent to
become brahmacari
at the guru's
asrama.”
– SB 1.5.24, purport
MORNING WALK,VRINDAVANA,
14 MARCH 1974
“From five to ten years,
guru-kula.And after ten
years, they should go to
the varnasrama college.”
SB 7.6.10, PURPORT
“Formerly . . . the brahmanas, ksatriyas
and vaisyas (everyone but the sudras) –
were trained in the guru-kula . . . There
have consequently been many instances
in which great kings and emperors have
given up household life . . . they could
give up all their possessions because
they were trained early as brahmacaris.”
Guru-kula
Varnasrama College
4 varnas &
4 asramas
VARNASRAMA
Varnasrama
Guru-kula
LETTER TO
MOHANANANDA,
11 DECEMBER 1972
“If you become Head Master
of the Gurukula that is more
important than going to
South America.This is the
most important post in
pushing on this movement.”
LETTER TO
STOKAKRSNA,
20 JUNE 1972
“I consider this Gurukula
school to be one of our most
important aspects of this
movement and it should be
given all serious consideration
by the members.”
LETTER TO
DAYANANDA,
NANDARANI,
27 JAN 1973
“Gurukula is our
most important
project.”
SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM
7.5.56-57, PURPORT
“In our Krsna consciousness movement,
the guru-kula plays an extremely
important part in our activities because
right from childhood the boys at the guru-
kula are instructed about Krsna
consciousness.Thus they become steady
within the cores of their hearts.”
WHY IT
DID NOT
WORK?
2. Funding.
1. Best people.
MORNING WALK,
VRINDAVANA
MARCH 14, 1974,
“Teaching should be
done by the sannyasis.
Just like in missionary
school, the fathers
teach.”
LETTER TO
SATSVARUPA,
5 NOV 1972
“That school is very, very
important business, and
the best man must be
found out for taking
charge there and
developing it nicely.”
LETTER TO JAYATIRTHA,
22 JAN 1976
“All grhasthas who are interested in doing
business should do so in full swing . . . let all
the grhasthas who wish to, execute business
full-fledgedly in the USA and in this way
support Gurukula . . .The profits from the
businesses should first go to support
Gurukula and balance may be given for the
local Temple's maintenance.”
LETTER TO JAGADISH,
22 JAN 1976
“The GBC should make an
injunction that if they
beget children, then
whatever the expenses are
for supporting Gurukula
they must pay for it.”
GURUKULA
OUR PAST
HAUNTS US
1
(Other things
were not
stopped)
NEW-CONVERT
SYNDROME
2
THERE IS NO
MONEY IN IT
3
LACK OF GOODNESS
4
IT
TAKES
TIME
5LACK OF FAITH
WHAT’S THE
ALTERNATIVE?
PANDAL LECTURE,
DELHI, 29 NOV 1971
“Don't spoil your children.
The modern educational
system without any
knowledge of Bhagavan, I
may tell you frankly, not only
in India, everywhere, they are
practically slaughterhouse.”
ROOM CONVERSATION,
LONDON, 9 JULY 1973
“I have seen intelligent boys, they go to
school and he is spoiled.Yes, spoiled. He
learns how to smoke, how to have sex, how
to talk nonsense, how to use knife, how to
fight, these things . . . Simply slaughterhouse,
this so-called school is called slaughterhouse.
Yes, slaughterhouse.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U
BIG BANG
EVOLUTION
SEX
DRUGS
MLECCHA
LECTURE, MELBOURNE,
19 APRIL 1976
“There is no education
actually. The modern
education means
simply a craftsmanship.”
MORNING WALK,
MAYAPUR, 7 APRIL 1975
“Krishna never says that, that ‘You send
your children to the universities and
make them fools and rascals.’ So one
who is depending on job, he's a sudra.
That is not education . . . Unless he gets
a job his education is useless.Therefore
he's a sudra.And brahmana, ksatriya,
vaisya – they will create their own
means of livelihood.”
MORNING WALK,
BOMBAY, 17 NOV 1975
“The modern education means to create
dogs.The dog goes door to door and
moves the tail,‘Please give me if you have
anything’ . . . InVedic culture no
brahmana will accept any job.
No ksatriya will accept any job.
No vaisya will accept any... Only sudras.”
EXTRA SLIDES
GURU-KULA INSPECTION,
VRINDAVANA, 26 JUNE 1977
“There must be five hundred
students . . . Now your business is bring
students . . . Before going to the foreign
countries, I had a very bad experience.
I asked so many men to give students,
Vedic students.‘Swamiji . . .We have to
earn money.’ Nobody wants that the
children should be honest, brahmana,
brahmacari. Nobody wants.”
ROOM CONVERSATION,
NEW MAYAPUR, 31 JULY 1976
“That is the way of Indian teaching, that
there is one teacher, and how he's managing
hundreds? That means there are groups.
One who is elderly student, he's taking
some beginners: "Write a or A like this."
That he can teach.What he has learned, he
can teach. Similarly, next group, next group.
So in this way, one teacher can manage
hundreds of students of different
categories.This is organization.”
ROOM CONVERSATION,
ATLANTA, 1ST MARCH 1975
“So in this age, 99% people are
engaged as sudra, working for
others. No independence.
Otherwise brahmana, ksatriya,
vaisya, they are independent.
They are nobody's servant. But
at the present moment,
education means how to become
expert servant.That means sudra.
So we cannot expect any good
things from sudra.”
ROOM CONVERSATION,
PURI, 26 JAN 1977
“You are doglike and
hankering after some job in
America and amongst
Europeans.The Indians are all
doing that . . . educated? He's
just like dog,‘Give me job’”
CC ADI-LILA 17.103
This system was current even one hundred years ago; even fifty or
sixty years ago, when we were children, such brahmanas would visit
householders like humble beggars, and people would derive great
benefit from the mercy of such brahmanas.The greatest benefit was
that a householder could save a great deal of money from being
spent on doctor bills because the brahmanas, aside from explaining
the past, present and future, could ordinarily cure all kinds of
diseases simply by giving instructions and some medicine.Thus no
one was bereft of the benefit of a first-class physician, astrologer
and priest.The important members of ISKCON should give careful
attention to our Dallas school, where children are being taught
Sanskrit and English to become perfect brahmanas.
GURUR NA SA SYAT SVA-JANO NA SA SYAT
PITA NA SA SYAJ JANANI NA SA SYAT
DAIVAM NATAT SYAN NA PATIS CA SA SYAN
NA MOCAYED YAH SAMUPETA-MRTYUM
“One who cannot deliver his
dependents from the path of repeated
birth and death should never become
a spiritual master, a father, a husband, a
mother or a worshipable demigod.”
– SB 5.5.18
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Ils 2018 varnasrama without gurukula - just a hobby

  • 2. “YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISHVARNASRAMA.” – Morning Walk, Mayapura, 5 Feb 1976
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  • 5. BHAGAVAD-GITA 18.19 “According to the three different modes of material nature, there are three kinds of knowledge.”
  • 7. What can we agree on?
  • 8. MORNING WALK, VRINDAVANA, 14 MARCH 1974 “Now you be trained up and revise the whole edition of the western civilization, especially in America.Then a new chapter will come in.This is the program.Therefore varnasrama school required.”
  • 10. Education Guru-kula Varnasrama school Varnasrama “In the system of varnasrama-dharma, which is the beginning of actual human life, small boys after five years of age are sent to become brahmacari at the guru's asrama.” – SB 1.5.24, purport
  • 11. MORNING WALK,VRINDAVANA, 14 MARCH 1974 “From five to ten years, guru-kula.And after ten years, they should go to the varnasrama college.”
  • 12. SB 7.6.10, PURPORT “Formerly . . . the brahmanas, ksatriyas and vaisyas (everyone but the sudras) – were trained in the guru-kula . . . There have consequently been many instances in which great kings and emperors have given up household life . . . they could give up all their possessions because they were trained early as brahmacaris.”
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  • 17. LETTER TO MOHANANANDA, 11 DECEMBER 1972 “If you become Head Master of the Gurukula that is more important than going to South America.This is the most important post in pushing on this movement.”
  • 18. LETTER TO STOKAKRSNA, 20 JUNE 1972 “I consider this Gurukula school to be one of our most important aspects of this movement and it should be given all serious consideration by the members.”
  • 19. LETTER TO DAYANANDA, NANDARANI, 27 JAN 1973 “Gurukula is our most important project.”
  • 20. SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM 7.5.56-57, PURPORT “In our Krsna consciousness movement, the guru-kula plays an extremely important part in our activities because right from childhood the boys at the guru- kula are instructed about Krsna consciousness.Thus they become steady within the cores of their hearts.”
  • 23. MORNING WALK, VRINDAVANA MARCH 14, 1974, “Teaching should be done by the sannyasis. Just like in missionary school, the fathers teach.”
  • 24. LETTER TO SATSVARUPA, 5 NOV 1972 “That school is very, very important business, and the best man must be found out for taking charge there and developing it nicely.”
  • 25. LETTER TO JAYATIRTHA, 22 JAN 1976 “All grhasthas who are interested in doing business should do so in full swing . . . let all the grhasthas who wish to, execute business full-fledgedly in the USA and in this way support Gurukula . . .The profits from the businesses should first go to support Gurukula and balance may be given for the local Temple's maintenance.”
  • 26. LETTER TO JAGADISH, 22 JAN 1976 “The GBC should make an injunction that if they beget children, then whatever the expenses are for supporting Gurukula they must pay for it.”
  • 31. THERE IS NO MONEY IN IT 3
  • 36. PANDAL LECTURE, DELHI, 29 NOV 1971 “Don't spoil your children. The modern educational system without any knowledge of Bhagavan, I may tell you frankly, not only in India, everywhere, they are practically slaughterhouse.”
  • 37. ROOM CONVERSATION, LONDON, 9 JULY 1973 “I have seen intelligent boys, they go to school and he is spoiled.Yes, spoiled. He learns how to smoke, how to have sex, how to talk nonsense, how to use knife, how to fight, these things . . . Simply slaughterhouse, this so-called school is called slaughterhouse. Yes, slaughterhouse.”
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  • 42. LECTURE, MELBOURNE, 19 APRIL 1976 “There is no education actually. The modern education means simply a craftsmanship.”
  • 43. MORNING WALK, MAYAPUR, 7 APRIL 1975 “Krishna never says that, that ‘You send your children to the universities and make them fools and rascals.’ So one who is depending on job, he's a sudra. That is not education . . . Unless he gets a job his education is useless.Therefore he's a sudra.And brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya – they will create their own means of livelihood.”
  • 44. MORNING WALK, BOMBAY, 17 NOV 1975 “The modern education means to create dogs.The dog goes door to door and moves the tail,‘Please give me if you have anything’ . . . InVedic culture no brahmana will accept any job. No ksatriya will accept any job. No vaisya will accept any... Only sudras.”
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  • 49. GURU-KULA INSPECTION, VRINDAVANA, 26 JUNE 1977 “There must be five hundred students . . . Now your business is bring students . . . Before going to the foreign countries, I had a very bad experience. I asked so many men to give students, Vedic students.‘Swamiji . . .We have to earn money.’ Nobody wants that the children should be honest, brahmana, brahmacari. Nobody wants.”
  • 50. ROOM CONVERSATION, NEW MAYAPUR, 31 JULY 1976 “That is the way of Indian teaching, that there is one teacher, and how he's managing hundreds? That means there are groups. One who is elderly student, he's taking some beginners: "Write a or A like this." That he can teach.What he has learned, he can teach. Similarly, next group, next group. So in this way, one teacher can manage hundreds of students of different categories.This is organization.”
  • 51. ROOM CONVERSATION, ATLANTA, 1ST MARCH 1975 “So in this age, 99% people are engaged as sudra, working for others. No independence. Otherwise brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, they are independent. They are nobody's servant. But at the present moment, education means how to become expert servant.That means sudra. So we cannot expect any good things from sudra.”
  • 52. ROOM CONVERSATION, PURI, 26 JAN 1977 “You are doglike and hankering after some job in America and amongst Europeans.The Indians are all doing that . . . educated? He's just like dog,‘Give me job’”
  • 53. CC ADI-LILA 17.103 This system was current even one hundred years ago; even fifty or sixty years ago, when we were children, such brahmanas would visit householders like humble beggars, and people would derive great benefit from the mercy of such brahmanas.The greatest benefit was that a householder could save a great deal of money from being spent on doctor bills because the brahmanas, aside from explaining the past, present and future, could ordinarily cure all kinds of diseases simply by giving instructions and some medicine.Thus no one was bereft of the benefit of a first-class physician, astrologer and priest.The important members of ISKCON should give careful attention to our Dallas school, where children are being taught Sanskrit and English to become perfect brahmanas.
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  • 56. GURUR NA SA SYAT SVA-JANO NA SA SYAT PITA NA SA SYAJ JANANI NA SA SYAT DAIVAM NATAT SYAN NA PATIS CA SA SYAN NA MOCAYED YAH SAMUPETA-MRTYUM “One who cannot deliver his dependents from the path of repeated birth and death should never become a spiritual master, a father, a husband, a mother or a worshipable demigod.” – SB 5.5.18