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THE WAY WE LISTEN
IS CHANGING
Francesco Baschieri
PODCASTING MEETUP ITALIA
THE
INFINITE DIAL
2016
#INFINITEDIAL
2016 #InfiniteDial
2018
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2018
#InfiniteDial
5% 7%
12%
17% 16% 15%
21% 20% 21%
27% 27%
34%
39%
45% 47%
53%
57%
61%
64%
2000 '01 '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08 '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17 2018
Online Audio = Listening to AM/FM radio stations online and/or listening to streamed audio content available only on the Internet
Monthly Online Audio Listening
Total Population 12+
% listening to Online Audio in last month
Estimated
180 Million
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2018
#InfiniteDial
75%
50%
21%
77%
61%
26%
79%
65%
31%
87%
70%
32%
88%
73%
33%
Age 12-24 Age 25-54 Age 55+
2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Monthly Online Audio Listening
% listening to Online Audio in last month
Online Audio = Listening to AM/FM radio stations online and/or listening to streamed audio content available only on the Internet
Perché il fenomeno in Italia è
così diverso?
Luglio-settembre 2014
Ireland
Norway
Denmark
United States
Sweden
Australia
Canada
New Zealand
United Kingdom
Finland
Spain
Switzerland
France
South Africa
Germany
Belgium
Portugal
Netherlands
Austria
Singapore
Mexico
Hong Kong
Israel
Philippines
UAE
Italy
Brazil
Hungary
Czech Rep
Chile
Ricerche di PODCAST

(normalizzate per popolazione)
Ireland
Norway
Denmark
United States
Sweden
Australia
Canada
New Zealand
United Kingdom
Finland
Spain
Switzerland
France
South Africa
Germany
Belgium
Portugal
Netherlands
Austria
Singapore
Mexico
Hong Kong
Israel
Philippines
UAE
Italy
Brazil
Hungary
Czech Rep
Chile
0 15 30 45 60
iOS Market share
18%
56%
Ireland
Norway
Denmark
United States
Sweden
Australia
Canada
New Zealand
United Kingdom
Finland
Spain
Switzerland
France
South Africa
Germany
Belgium
Portugal
Netherlands
Austria
Singapore
Mexico
Hong Kong
Israel
Philippines
UAE
Italy
Brazil
Hungary
Czech Rep
Chile
Correlazione: 0.75
(forte)
Attenzione:

La demografia del consumatore di podcast in
USA - oggi - è fortemente influenzata da quella
degli acquirenti Apple
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2018
#InfiniteDial
57%
45%
71%
56%
Amazon Alexa
Google Home
2017
2018
Total Population 12+
Smart Speaker Awareness
% aware of Smart Speaker
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2018
#InfiniteDial
7%
18%
2017 2018
Total Population 12+
Smart Speaker Ownership
% owning either Amazon Alexa or Google Home devices
Estimated
51 Million
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THE INFINITE DIAL
2018
#InfiniteDial
Number of Smart Speakers in Household
Own either
Amazon Alexa or Google Home
One
67%
Two
22%
Three or more
11%
Base: Own a Smart Speaker
La crescita degli Smart Speaker è
più veloce di quella iniziale degli
Smartphone
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2018
#InfiniteDial
22%
37% 37%
43% 45% 45% 46% 46% 48% 49%
55%
60%
64%
2006 '07 '08 '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17 2018
Total Population 12+
Podcasting Familiarity
% familiar with the term podcasting
Estimated
180 Million
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THE INFINITE DIAL
2018
#InfiniteDial
11% 13%
18%
22% 23% 25%
29% 27%
30%
33%
36%
40%
44%
2006 '07 '08 '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17 2018
Estimated
124 Million
Total Population 12+
Podcast Listening
% ever listened to a podcast
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THE INFINITE DIAL
2018
#InfiniteDial
9% 11% 12% 12% 14% 12%
15% 17%
21%
24% 26%
2008 '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17 2018
Total Population 12+
Monthly Podcast Listening
% listening to a podcast in last month
Estimated
73 Million
Qui c’è un problema di
Retention - legato ai contenuti
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2018
#InfiniteDial
7% 8% 10%
13% 15% 17%
2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Estimated
48 Million
Total Population 12+
Weekly Podcast Listening
% listening to a podcast in last week
Ascolto settimanale cresce più
velocemente di quello mensile:
maggior consumo pro-capite
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THE INFINITE DIAL
2018
#InfiniteDial
One
18%
Two
17%
Three
13%
Four or Five
21%
Six to Ten
17%
11 or more
14%
Average of seven
podcasts listened
per week
Base: Weekly Podcast Listeners
Number of Podcasts
Listened to in Last Week
The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital
THE INFINITE DIAL
2018
#InfiniteDial
20% 17%
7%
23%
19%
10%
27% 24%
11%
27%
31%
12%
30% 32%
13%
Age 12-24 Age 25-54 Age 55+
2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Monthly Podcast Listening
% listening to a podcast in last month
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THE INFINITE DIAL
2018
#InfiniteDial
17%
13%
17% 16%
24%
18%
27%
21%
27% 24%
Men Women
2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Monthly Podcast Listening
% listening to a podcast in last month
The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital
THE INFINITE DIAL
2018
#InfiniteDial
At home
49%
In car/truck
22%
At work
11%
Riding public
transportation
4%
Working out
4%
Walking around
3%Other
7%
Location Listened to
Podcasts Most Often
Base: Ever Listened to a Podcast
The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital
THE INFINITE DIAL
2018
#InfiniteDial
82%
49%
45%
28%
23%
21%
AM/FM Radio
CD Player
Owned Digital Music
Online Radio
Podcasts
Satellite Radio
Base: Age 18+ and has driven/ridden in car in last month; 88%
Audio Sources Used in Car
% currently ever using audio source in car
The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital
THE INFINITE DIAL
2018
#InfiniteDial
84%
56%
38%
21%
19%
82%
52%
45%
26%
19%
22%
82%
49%
45%
28%
23%
21%
AM/FM Radio
CD Player
Owned Digital Music
Online Radio
Podcasts
Satellite Radio
2016
2017
2018
Audio Sources Used in Car
Base: Age 18+ and has driven/ridden in car in last month; 88%
% currently ever using audio source in car
Key Takeaway
I prossimi ascoltatori di podcast (in
USA) saranno molto diversi dagli
attuali
1
NOTA: In Italia non è detto che si replicheranno
le stesse dinamiche (la diffusione di OS mobili
è meno influenzata dalla classe sociale)
(il podcast è veramente un format
diverso oppure siamo biased da
questi early adopters?)
Android è la chiave per la
crescita.
2
NOTA: L’app di riferimento su Android
potrebbe anche non essere il podcast
player del sistema operativo…
Come podcaster dovete
già distribuire ovunque!
Gli Smart Speaker crescono più
velocemente degli smartphone
3
Oggi sono perfetti per le news

(ma probabilmente altri formati
arriveranno presto)
Essere “follower” può aiutarci a non
replicare gli stessi errori e ad
“ispirarci”
4
Nota: oggi in USA i podcast diventano serie
TV. Possiamo lavorare sullo stesso filone
per capire cosa funzionerebbe anche qui
Buon Meetup!

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I dati del Podcast in Italia e nel mondo. Spreaker al Podcast Italia Meetup

  • 1. THE WAY WE LISTEN IS CHANGING Francesco Baschieri PODCASTING MEETUP ITALIA
  • 3. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 5% 7% 12% 17% 16% 15% 21% 20% 21% 27% 27% 34% 39% 45% 47% 53% 57% 61% 64% 2000 '01 '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08 '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17 2018 Online Audio = Listening to AM/FM radio stations online and/or listening to streamed audio content available only on the Internet Monthly Online Audio Listening Total Population 12+ % listening to Online Audio in last month Estimated 180 Million
  • 4. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 75% 50% 21% 77% 61% 26% 79% 65% 31% 87% 70% 32% 88% 73% 33% Age 12-24 Age 25-54 Age 55+ 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Monthly Online Audio Listening % listening to Online Audio in last month Online Audio = Listening to AM/FM radio stations online and/or listening to streamed audio content available only on the Internet
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  • 9. Perché il fenomeno in Italia è così diverso?
  • 11.
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  • 13. Ireland Norway Denmark United States Sweden Australia Canada New Zealand United Kingdom Finland Spain Switzerland France South Africa Germany Belgium Portugal Netherlands Austria Singapore Mexico Hong Kong Israel Philippines UAE Italy Brazil Hungary Czech Rep Chile Ricerche di PODCAST
 (normalizzate per popolazione)
  • 14. Ireland Norway Denmark United States Sweden Australia Canada New Zealand United Kingdom Finland Spain Switzerland France South Africa Germany Belgium Portugal Netherlands Austria Singapore Mexico Hong Kong Israel Philippines UAE Italy Brazil Hungary Czech Rep Chile 0 15 30 45 60 iOS Market share 18% 56%
  • 15. Ireland Norway Denmark United States Sweden Australia Canada New Zealand United Kingdom Finland Spain Switzerland France South Africa Germany Belgium Portugal Netherlands Austria Singapore Mexico Hong Kong Israel Philippines UAE Italy Brazil Hungary Czech Rep Chile Correlazione: 0.75 (forte)
  • 16. Attenzione:
 La demografia del consumatore di podcast in USA - oggi - è fortemente influenzata da quella degli acquirenti Apple
  • 17. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 57% 45% 71% 56% Amazon Alexa Google Home 2017 2018 Total Population 12+ Smart Speaker Awareness % aware of Smart Speaker
  • 18. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 7% 18% 2017 2018 Total Population 12+ Smart Speaker Ownership % owning either Amazon Alexa or Google Home devices Estimated 51 Million
  • 19. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial Number of Smart Speakers in Household Own either Amazon Alexa or Google Home One 67% Two 22% Three or more 11% Base: Own a Smart Speaker
  • 20. La crescita degli Smart Speaker è più veloce di quella iniziale degli Smartphone
  • 21. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 22% 37% 37% 43% 45% 45% 46% 46% 48% 49% 55% 60% 64% 2006 '07 '08 '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17 2018 Total Population 12+ Podcasting Familiarity % familiar with the term podcasting Estimated 180 Million
  • 22. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 11% 13% 18% 22% 23% 25% 29% 27% 30% 33% 36% 40% 44% 2006 '07 '08 '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17 2018 Estimated 124 Million Total Population 12+ Podcast Listening % ever listened to a podcast
  • 23. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 9% 11% 12% 12% 14% 12% 15% 17% 21% 24% 26% 2008 '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17 2018 Total Population 12+ Monthly Podcast Listening % listening to a podcast in last month Estimated 73 Million
  • 24. Qui c’è un problema di Retention - legato ai contenuti
  • 25. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 7% 8% 10% 13% 15% 17% 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Estimated 48 Million Total Population 12+ Weekly Podcast Listening % listening to a podcast in last week
  • 26. Ascolto settimanale cresce più velocemente di quello mensile: maggior consumo pro-capite
  • 27. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial One 18% Two 17% Three 13% Four or Five 21% Six to Ten 17% 11 or more 14% Average of seven podcasts listened per week Base: Weekly Podcast Listeners Number of Podcasts Listened to in Last Week
  • 28. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 20% 17% 7% 23% 19% 10% 27% 24% 11% 27% 31% 12% 30% 32% 13% Age 12-24 Age 25-54 Age 55+ 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Monthly Podcast Listening % listening to a podcast in last month
  • 29. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 17% 13% 17% 16% 24% 18% 27% 21% 27% 24% Men Women 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Monthly Podcast Listening % listening to a podcast in last month
  • 30. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial At home 49% In car/truck 22% At work 11% Riding public transportation 4% Working out 4% Walking around 3%Other 7% Location Listened to Podcasts Most Often Base: Ever Listened to a Podcast
  • 31. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 82% 49% 45% 28% 23% 21% AM/FM Radio CD Player Owned Digital Music Online Radio Podcasts Satellite Radio Base: Age 18+ and has driven/ridden in car in last month; 88% Audio Sources Used in Car % currently ever using audio source in car
  • 32. The Infinite Dial © 2018 Edison Research and Triton Digital THE INFINITE DIAL 2018 #InfiniteDial 84% 56% 38% 21% 19% 82% 52% 45% 26% 19% 22% 82% 49% 45% 28% 23% 21% AM/FM Radio CD Player Owned Digital Music Online Radio Podcasts Satellite Radio 2016 2017 2018 Audio Sources Used in Car Base: Age 18+ and has driven/ridden in car in last month; 88% % currently ever using audio source in car
  • 34. I prossimi ascoltatori di podcast (in USA) saranno molto diversi dagli attuali 1
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  • 36. NOTA: In Italia non è detto che si replicheranno le stesse dinamiche (la diffusione di OS mobili è meno influenzata dalla classe sociale)
  • 37. (il podcast è veramente un format diverso oppure siamo biased da questi early adopters?)
  • 38. Android è la chiave per la crescita. 2
  • 39. NOTA: L’app di riferimento su Android potrebbe anche non essere il podcast player del sistema operativo…
  • 40. Come podcaster dovete già distribuire ovunque!
  • 41. Gli Smart Speaker crescono più velocemente degli smartphone 3
  • 42. Oggi sono perfetti per le news
 (ma probabilmente altri formati arriveranno presto)
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  • 44. Essere “follower” può aiutarci a non replicare gli stessi errori e ad “ispirarci” 4
  • 45. Nota: oggi in USA i podcast diventano serie TV. Possiamo lavorare sullo stesso filone per capire cosa funzionerebbe anche qui