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E-commerce
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Groupon-like with Magento



              Nguyen Vu Hung, HanoiLUG
              2012/01/
              AITI-APTECH, Hanoi
Agenda

1. Self Introduction
2. Business Model
3. Revenue Model
4. Views of Sellers and Buyers
5. Groupon-likes in Vietnam
6. Groupon-like with Magento
7. So, what are the problems
8. Related topics
8. A New Business Model
9. Q&A
Agenda (2)

1. Self Introduction
2. Business Model
3. Revenue Model
4. Views of Sellers and Buyers
5. Groupon-likes in Vietnam
6. Groupon-like with Magento
7. So, what are the problems
8. Related topics
8. A New Business Model
9. Q&A
Self Introduction
●   A FOSS activist
●   Offshore software development
●   System Adminnistrator
●   High Availability Engineer
●   2 years working with Magento
●   About to start a new business with Magento
Overcharged


GROUPON BUSINESS MODEL
                                                                                         Can not secure buyers


     Customer signs
      with Groupon

                                                      Deal reaches
                                                      critical mass
                                                                            Customers
                                                                               pay
                                                                             Groupon
                                       Groupon                                                                  Customer
                                       features                                                                  redeems
                                         deal                                                                   coupon at
        Merchant                                                                        Groupon pays            merchant
        signs up                                                                        merchant share


                                                                                             Payments spread out in 3
                                                                                             installments over lifecycle
                                                                                             of deal, leading Groupon
    Notable sources:                                                                         with negative working
                                                                                             capital
   http://primitus.com/blog/whats-the-secret-success-of-groupon/
A BETTER BUSINESS MODEL                                              ●
                                                                         Customers show “coupon” at
                                                                         merchants to get discounted
                                                                     ●
                                                                         No payment needed


  Customer signs
   with Groupon

                                                   Deal reaches
                                                   critical mass
                                                                   Customers
                                                                      pay
                                                                    Groupon
                                   Groupo                                                              Customer
                                       n                                                                redeems
                                   feature                                                             coupon at
     Merchant                       s deal                                     Groupon pays            merchant
     signs up                                                                  merchant share


                                                                                    Payments spread out in 3
                                                                                    installments over lifecycle
                                                                                    of deal, leading Groupon
 Notable sources:                                                                   with negative working
                                                                                    capital
http://primitus.com/blog/whats-the-secret-success-of-groupon/
NEW REVENUE MODEL



  Customer signs
   with Groupon

                                                   Deal reaches
                                                   critical mass
                                                                   Customers
                                                                      pay
                                                                    Groupon
                                   Groupo                                                              Customer
                                       n                                                                redeems
                                   feature                                                             coupon at
     Merchant                       s deal                                     Groupon pays            merchant
     signs up                                                                  merchant share


                                                                                    Payments spread out in 3
                              Revenue = Advertisment.                               installments over lifecycle
                                                                                    of deal, leading Groupon
 Notable sources:                                                                   with negative working
                                                                                    capital
http://primitus.com/blog/whats-the-secret-success-of-groupon/
Business Model Keypoints
●   Free on submission for merchants
●   Pay for top posting
●   Social marketing
●   Printed/Mail/SMS based scout/discount
    ●   Directly sent to user’s email
         –   OSOS takes no commission, cheaper for customers and merchants
●   Product Review
●   Users’ feedback (non-biased)
    ●   Feedback ranking, lottery for writing feedback (coupon?)
●   Prefecture-based
●   Service classification
●   Monthly discount/lottery
●   “User-only price”
ECONOMIC CHARACTERISTICS




Negatives                                    Plusses

• Lack of network effect                     • Brand
• No technology barriers to entry            • Economies of scale (‘winner takes
• No switching cost for merchants              most’)
  and customers
• Scaling is expensive (sales people
  on the ground)
• High cost of customer acquisition




                                                                                    Notable sources:

                                       http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/17/why-groupon-is-no-ebay/
Seller's views
●
    Benefits (compared to Groupon)
    ●
        Online marketing cheaper than Groupon
    ●
        Be able to manage its own customers
    ●
        Mail marketing
    ●
        Networking with its customers
    ●
        Easy to scale (using existing users)
• Groupon
    – Merchants pay commission on posting
• New Business Model
    – Merchants pay advertisement: top-posting, banner
MERCHANT PERSPECTIVE ON CUSTOMER INTERACTION



                                         Get customer to follow on


          Ad.

                                                                            Get +1
                               Merchan
                                  t


                                                                          Like it on
           Offer on
                                Advertise on



                                                   Ad.
                                                                                           Notable sources:
                                    http://gigaom.com/2010/09/29/hey-groupon-its-time-for-a-localsocial-roll-up/
Muachung: Backed up by a big media commany: VC CORP
Backed up by diadiem.com, and a PR commany in the group
Social network marketing
With phununet
Magento
Main Features:
Checkout
Payment (Bảo Kim, Ngân Lượng)
Customer Account
Order Management
Mobile
Multi Store
The Problems with Groupon
●   High Commission
●   Unstable
●   Can not secure customers
●   Not really effective PR
Related topics
●   Traditional Marketing (Newspaper, TV)
●   Digital Marketing
●   Media Backup
●   Social networking (Facebook, Twitter)
    ●   Exponential growth
●   Customer Behavior (Buyers')
    ●   As cheap as it can be
Xu Hướng Công Nghệ
●   Mobile
●   Tablet
●   Cloud
●   Ảo hóa
●   iOS/Android
●   HTML5
Định Hướng Nghề Nghiệp
●   Kỹ năng
    ●   Kỹ thuật
    ●   Phi kỹ thuật
Lựa Chọn Ngôn Ngữ
●   C#
●   Java
●   PHP
●   C++
●   Ruby, Python
●   Bash?
●   COBOL
Xu Hướng Mở
●   Free and Open Source Software
    ●   Google: FOSS business model
●   Xã hội hóa nội dung
    ●   Wikipedia
    ●   OpenStreetmap
    ●   OCR with Captcha-like
Cồng Đồng Mã Mở Việt Nam
●   Cộng đồng
    ●   Lugs
        –   Vietlug, HanoiLug, SaigonLug, Ubuntu-VN
    ●   VFOSSA
    ●   Java, Agile, Scrum
●   Doanh nghiệp
    ●   Customize, deploy: Netnam
    ●   Integration: iWay
    ●   Development: NukeViet
Các Vấn Đề Khác
●   SNS
●   Digital marketing
●   Bảo mật
●   Tối ưu hóa
●   High Availability
Thank you

                       Q&A
http://slidesha.re/sdKrfJ


               Nguyen Vu Hung, HanoiLUG
               Email: vuhung16plus@gmail.com
               Twitter: @vuhung
               Facebook: vuhung16plus@gmail.com
References
●   http://www.magentovietnam.com/
●   http://www.sieumua.com/
●   http://www.magentocommerce.com/
●   “A study on Groupon.com” on Slideshare.net
●   “Groupon business model” on Slideshare.net
E-commerce
           and
Groupon-like with Magento


              Nguyen Vu Hung, HanoiLUG
              2011/12/17
              PHP Day 2011, Hanoi

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E-commerce and its Trend (AITI APTECH)

  • 1. E-commerce and Groupon-like with Magento Nguyen Vu Hung, HanoiLUG 2012/01/ AITI-APTECH, Hanoi
  • 2. Agenda 1. Self Introduction 2. Business Model 3. Revenue Model 4. Views of Sellers and Buyers 5. Groupon-likes in Vietnam 6. Groupon-like with Magento 7. So, what are the problems 8. Related topics 8. A New Business Model 9. Q&A
  • 3. Agenda (2) 1. Self Introduction 2. Business Model 3. Revenue Model 4. Views of Sellers and Buyers 5. Groupon-likes in Vietnam 6. Groupon-like with Magento 7. So, what are the problems 8. Related topics 8. A New Business Model 9. Q&A
  • 4. Self Introduction ● A FOSS activist ● Offshore software development ● System Adminnistrator ● High Availability Engineer ● 2 years working with Magento ● About to start a new business with Magento
  • 5. Overcharged GROUPON BUSINESS MODEL Can not secure buyers Customer signs with Groupon Deal reaches critical mass Customers pay Groupon Groupon Customer features redeems deal coupon at Merchant Groupon pays merchant signs up merchant share Payments spread out in 3 installments over lifecycle of deal, leading Groupon Notable sources: with negative working capital http://primitus.com/blog/whats-the-secret-success-of-groupon/
  • 6. A BETTER BUSINESS MODEL ● Customers show “coupon” at merchants to get discounted ● No payment needed Customer signs with Groupon Deal reaches critical mass Customers pay Groupon Groupo Customer n redeems feature coupon at Merchant s deal Groupon pays merchant signs up merchant share Payments spread out in 3 installments over lifecycle of deal, leading Groupon Notable sources: with negative working capital http://primitus.com/blog/whats-the-secret-success-of-groupon/
  • 7. NEW REVENUE MODEL Customer signs with Groupon Deal reaches critical mass Customers pay Groupon Groupo Customer n redeems feature coupon at Merchant s deal Groupon pays merchant signs up merchant share Payments spread out in 3 Revenue = Advertisment. installments over lifecycle of deal, leading Groupon Notable sources: with negative working capital http://primitus.com/blog/whats-the-secret-success-of-groupon/
  • 8. Business Model Keypoints ● Free on submission for merchants ● Pay for top posting ● Social marketing ● Printed/Mail/SMS based scout/discount ● Directly sent to user’s email – OSOS takes no commission, cheaper for customers and merchants ● Product Review ● Users’ feedback (non-biased) ● Feedback ranking, lottery for writing feedback (coupon?) ● Prefecture-based ● Service classification ● Monthly discount/lottery ● “User-only price”
  • 9. ECONOMIC CHARACTERISTICS Negatives Plusses • Lack of network effect • Brand • No technology barriers to entry • Economies of scale (‘winner takes • No switching cost for merchants most’) and customers • Scaling is expensive (sales people on the ground) • High cost of customer acquisition Notable sources: http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/17/why-groupon-is-no-ebay/
  • 10. Seller's views ● Benefits (compared to Groupon) ● Online marketing cheaper than Groupon ● Be able to manage its own customers ● Mail marketing ● Networking with its customers ● Easy to scale (using existing users) • Groupon – Merchants pay commission on posting • New Business Model – Merchants pay advertisement: top-posting, banner
  • 11. MERCHANT PERSPECTIVE ON CUSTOMER INTERACTION Get customer to follow on Ad. Get +1 Merchan t Like it on Offer on Advertise on Ad. Notable sources: http://gigaom.com/2010/09/29/hey-groupon-its-time-for-a-localsocial-roll-up/
  • 12. Muachung: Backed up by a big media commany: VC CORP
  • 13. Backed up by diadiem.com, and a PR commany in the group
  • 16. Magento Main Features: Checkout Payment (Bảo Kim, Ngân Lượng) Customer Account Order Management Mobile Multi Store
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  • 20. The Problems with Groupon ● High Commission ● Unstable ● Can not secure customers ● Not really effective PR
  • 21. Related topics ● Traditional Marketing (Newspaper, TV) ● Digital Marketing ● Media Backup ● Social networking (Facebook, Twitter) ● Exponential growth ● Customer Behavior (Buyers') ● As cheap as it can be
  • 22. Xu Hướng Công Nghệ ● Mobile ● Tablet ● Cloud ● Ảo hóa ● iOS/Android ● HTML5
  • 23. Định Hướng Nghề Nghiệp ● Kỹ năng ● Kỹ thuật ● Phi kỹ thuật
  • 24. Lựa Chọn Ngôn Ngữ ● C# ● Java ● PHP ● C++ ● Ruby, Python ● Bash? ● COBOL
  • 25. Xu Hướng Mở ● Free and Open Source Software ● Google: FOSS business model ● Xã hội hóa nội dung ● Wikipedia ● OpenStreetmap ● OCR with Captcha-like
  • 26. Cồng Đồng Mã Mở Việt Nam ● Cộng đồng ● Lugs – Vietlug, HanoiLug, SaigonLug, Ubuntu-VN ● VFOSSA ● Java, Agile, Scrum ● Doanh nghiệp ● Customize, deploy: Netnam ● Integration: iWay ● Development: NukeViet
  • 27. Các Vấn Đề Khác ● SNS ● Digital marketing ● Bảo mật ● Tối ưu hóa ● High Availability
  • 28. Thank you Q&A http://slidesha.re/sdKrfJ Nguyen Vu Hung, HanoiLUG Email: vuhung16plus@gmail.com Twitter: @vuhung Facebook: vuhung16plus@gmail.com
  • 29. References ● http://www.magentovietnam.com/ ● http://www.sieumua.com/ ● http://www.magentocommerce.com/ ● “A study on Groupon.com” on Slideshare.net ● “Groupon business model” on Slideshare.net
  • 30. E-commerce and Groupon-like with Magento Nguyen Vu Hung, HanoiLUG 2011/12/17 PHP Day 2011, Hanoi