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Johan Delimon
Chief Solutions Architect Skype for Business & MVP
idelimon BVBA, GGEHOSTED, Ordina, Fujitsu
idelimon BVBA / johan@delimon.be / @jdelimon / Skype for Business MVP / MCSM
Communications / Skype4B Architect
Johan Delimon
Johan Delimon
idelimon BVBA / johan@delimon.be / @jdelimon / Skype for Business MVP / MCSM Communications / Skype4B Architect
CloudOn-Premises
Full set of enterprise value features
Unified communications
Faster time to value
Lower total cost of ownership
Unified communications
Server
Hub for teamwork
With AI, Microsoft Graphs, bots…
Intelligent communications
Online
Cloud
CloudOn-Premises
Full set of enterprise value features
Unified communications
IM/Presence, voice, video, meetings, conferencing, sharing
Faster time to value
Lower total cost of ownership
Unified communications
Server
Hub for teamwork
With AI, Microsoft Graphs, bots…
Intelligent communications
Online
Preview mid 2018 | Release late 2018
Office 2019 Server
Continuing commitment to on-
premises and hybrid customer
needs
Refreshed mainstream support
Quality, security and performance fixes
Refreshed Skype for Business clients
IT Pro and Voice centric release
Cloud Connected Analytics and Voice Apps
Improved Teams interop
Targeting Late 2018
https://aka.ms/skype2teamsroadmap
https://aka.ms/skype2teamsroadmap
https://aka.ms/skype2teamsroadmap
https://aka.ms/skype2teamsroadmap
Skype for Business Server Skype for Business Online Teams Current Teams Next
Core calling features
Advanced calling features
PSTN Connectivity
Online Meetings
PSTN Conferencing
Extensibility
Compliance
Management
Artificial Intelligence
Direct Routing enables new enterprise voice options in
Microsoft Teams
• Easy Transition to Calling in Teams.
• Telephony System Inter/Op.
• Support for Analog Devices.
Supported SBCs AudioCodes, Ribbon Communications
end of Q2-2018 for general availability
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Teams-Blog/Direct-Routing-enables-new-enterprise-voice-options-in-Microsoft/ba-p/170450
May 15 2018 : Direct Routing NOW in Public Preview
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Teams-Blog/Direct-Routing-NOW-in-Public-Preview/ba-p/193915
Traditional PBX
Skype for Business Server
Skype for Business
Online
Session Border
Controller (SBC)
Skype for Business
Hybrid Voice
Microsoft Cloud
Connector Edition
OR
Direct Routing with Session
Border Controller
SIP TrunkAND
/ OR
Skype for
Business
Server
Skype for Business
Online
Skype for Business
Hybrid Voice
Direct Routing with
Session Border
Controller
Upgrade Policies /
Interop Modes
AND
Skype for
Business
Online
Skype for
Business Server
Skype for Business
Hybrid Voice
Upgrade Policies /
Interop Modes
Traditional PBX
Skype for
Business
Online
Upgrade Policies /
Interop Modes
Direct Routing with
Session Border
Controller
Upgrade Policies /
Interop Modes
&
Microsoft Cloud
Connector Edition
Migrating From
Microsoft
Teams
Skype for Business
On-Prem or Online
 Microsoft Teams and Skype for Business coexistence and interoperability
 Understanding coexistence and upgrade journey for SfB and Teams
 Migration and interoperability guidance for organizations using Teams together with SfB
Feature Island
Mode
Group
Collab
Group
Collab
Meetings
Single
Client
Skype
Single
Client
Teams
Chat &
Presence
Calling
Meetings
Collaboration
User Group 1
User Group 2
User Group 3
User Group 4
User Group 5
Island Mode Teams Only
Mode
Single Client
Mode
Prepare Next Migration Future StateMigrationEvaluate
Today 2018 2019 2020 Future
User Group 1
User Group 2
User Group 3
User Group 4
User Group 5
Island Mode
Single Client Mode
Teams Only
Mode
Group Collab + Meetings Only Mode
Single Client
Mode
Group Collab +
Meetings Only
Mode
Group Collab
Only Mode
Prepare Next Migration Future StateMigrationEvaluate
Today 2018 2019 2020 Future
User Group 1
User Group 2
User Group 3
User Group 4
User Group 5
Prepare Hybrid
Skype for
Business Server
with Office 365
Single Client
Mode
Teams Only
Mode
Group Collab + Meetings Only Mode
Single Client
Mode
Prepare Next Migration Future StateMigrationEvaluate
Island Mode
Group Collab +
Meetings Only
Mode
Today 2018 2019 2020 Future
User Group 1
User Group 2
User Group 3
User Group 4
User Group 5
Prepare Hybrid
Skype for
Business Server
with Office 365
Single Client
Mode
Teams Only
Mode
Group Collab + Meetings Only Mode
with Skype for Business Server 2019
Prepare Next Migration Future StateMigrationEvaluate
Island Mode
Group Collab +
Meetings Only
Mode
Today 2018 2019 2020 Future
Potential Teams Migration blockers
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






•
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
Microsoft Phone System
for US for Skype for
Business Only & Teams
Office 365
Office 365
Hybrid SFB
Server w Office
365
SFB Server w PSTN Routing
Office 365
Hybrid SFB
Server w Office
365
SFB Server for Regulatory
Compliance
Skype for Business Hybrid with
PSTN Routing for Office 365
including Hosting Users for
Complex PSTN
Skype for Business Server
required for all Regulatory
& Compliance Users
Direct
Routing
For Teams
https://admin0e.online.lync.com/lscp/?language=en-
US&tenantID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-0000000000
https://portal.office.com/AdminPortal/Home#/users https://admin.teams.microsoft.com/dashboard
Identity Mode NotifySfbUsers Action
-------- ---- -------------- ------
Global Legacy False None
Tag:NoUpgrade Legacy False None
Tag:NotifyForTeams Legacy True Notify
Tag:UpgradeToTeams TeamsOnly False Upgrade
Tag:Islands Islands False None
Tag:IslandsWithNotify Islands True Notify
Tag:SfBOnly SfBOnly False None
Tag:SfBOnlyWithNotify SfBOnly True Notify
Tag:SfBWithTeamsCollab SfBWithTeamsCollab False None
Tag:SfBWithTeamsCollabWithNotify SfBWithTeamsCollab True Notify
Get-CsTeamsUpgradePolicy | Select Identity, Mode, NotifySfbUsers, Action
Identity CallingDefaultClient ChatDefaultClient
-------- -------------------- -----------------
Global Default Default
Tag:DisallowOverrideCallingDefaultChatDefault Default Default
Tag:DisallowOverrideCallingTeamsChatTeams Teams Teams
Tag:DisallowOverrideCallingSfbChatTeams Sfb Teams
Tag:AllowOverrideCallingDefaultChatTeams Default Teams
Tag:DisallowOverrideCallingDefaultChatTeams Default Teams
Tag:AllowOverrideCallingDefaultChatDefault Default Default
Tag:DisallowOverrideCallingSfbChatSfb Sfb Sfb
Get-CsTeamsInteropPolicy | Select Identity, CallingDefaultClient, ChatDefaultClient
SipAddress TeamsUpgradePolicy TeamsInteropPolicy
---------- ------------------ ------------------
sip:userteams2@delimon.be UpgradeToTeams DisallowOverrideCallingTeamsChatTeams
sip:userteams3@delimon.be IslandsWithNotify DisallowOverrideCallingDefaultChatDefault
sip:usersfb1@delimon.be SfBOnlyWithNotify DisallowOverrideCallingSfbChatSfb
sip:usersfb2@delimon.be SfBOnlyWithNotify DisallowOverrideCallingSfbChatSfb
sip:userteams1@delimon.be UpgradeToTeams DisallowOverrideCallingTeamsChatTeams
Get-CsOnlineUser "user*" | select SipAddress,TeamsUpgradePolicy, TeamsInteropPolicy
CloudOn-Premises
Server Online
Cloud
Online
PSTN Calling (Microsoft Phone System)
PSTN Calling (Direct Routing)
Federation Skype for Business & Teams
Unified Presence (Skype & Teams)
This applies when using Teams Only and when
Skype for Business Server is used in Hybrid
When the Teams User wants to use any of the
following features the Skype for Business User
must be homed in Online
Modes for Skype for Business User Restrictions Modes for Teams User
Island Mode Skype to Teams and Visa Versa Island Mode
Except Modes Except Modes
Group Collab Only
Group Collab & Meetings Only
Single Client Skype for Business
Single Client Teams
Modes for Skype for Business User Restrictions Modes for Teams User
Group Collab Only
Group Collab & Meetings Only
Single Client Skype for Business
Rich Chat capabilities between
Skype for Business and Teams
Desktop & File Sharing
Single Client Teams
Except Modes Except Modes
Island Mode Island Mode
Modes for Skype for Business User Restrictions Modes for Teams User
Group Collab Only
Single Client Skype for Business
Island Mode
Skype for Business Client cannot
join Teams Meetings and
Visa/Versa, Join with Respective
Client or just Browser
Single Client Teams
Island Mode Teams
Excluded Modes Excluded Modes
Group Collab & Meetings Only
Guest Access Quirks
Switching
logs you out
Guest
Account
 No Presence
 No Calling Capabilities
 No PSTN Calls
 No Federation
•
•
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Johan Delimon
Chief Solutions Architect Skype for Business & MVP
idelimon BVBA, GGEHOSTED, Ordina, Fujitsu
[Delimon] Unraveling Teams vs Skype for Business

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[Delimon] Unraveling Teams vs Skype for Business

  • 1. Johan Delimon Chief Solutions Architect Skype for Business & MVP idelimon BVBA, GGEHOSTED, Ordina, Fujitsu
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  • 3. idelimon BVBA / johan@delimon.be / @jdelimon / Skype for Business MVP / MCSM Communications / Skype4B Architect Johan Delimon Johan Delimon idelimon BVBA / johan@delimon.be / @jdelimon / Skype for Business MVP / MCSM Communications / Skype4B Architect
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  • 6. CloudOn-Premises Full set of enterprise value features Unified communications Faster time to value Lower total cost of ownership Unified communications Server Hub for teamwork With AI, Microsoft Graphs, bots… Intelligent communications Online Cloud
  • 7. CloudOn-Premises Full set of enterprise value features Unified communications IM/Presence, voice, video, meetings, conferencing, sharing Faster time to value Lower total cost of ownership Unified communications Server Hub for teamwork With AI, Microsoft Graphs, bots… Intelligent communications Online
  • 8. Preview mid 2018 | Release late 2018 Office 2019 Server
  • 9. Continuing commitment to on- premises and hybrid customer needs Refreshed mainstream support Quality, security and performance fixes Refreshed Skype for Business clients IT Pro and Voice centric release Cloud Connected Analytics and Voice Apps Improved Teams interop Targeting Late 2018
  • 14. Skype for Business Server Skype for Business Online Teams Current Teams Next Core calling features Advanced calling features PSTN Connectivity Online Meetings PSTN Conferencing Extensibility Compliance Management Artificial Intelligence
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  • 21. Direct Routing enables new enterprise voice options in Microsoft Teams • Easy Transition to Calling in Teams. • Telephony System Inter/Op. • Support for Analog Devices. Supported SBCs AudioCodes, Ribbon Communications end of Q2-2018 for general availability https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Teams-Blog/Direct-Routing-enables-new-enterprise-voice-options-in-Microsoft/ba-p/170450 May 15 2018 : Direct Routing NOW in Public Preview https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Teams-Blog/Direct-Routing-NOW-in-Public-Preview/ba-p/193915
  • 22. Traditional PBX Skype for Business Server Skype for Business Online Session Border Controller (SBC) Skype for Business Hybrid Voice Microsoft Cloud Connector Edition OR Direct Routing with Session Border Controller SIP TrunkAND / OR
  • 23. Skype for Business Server Skype for Business Online Skype for Business Hybrid Voice Direct Routing with Session Border Controller Upgrade Policies / Interop Modes AND
  • 24. Skype for Business Online Skype for Business Server Skype for Business Hybrid Voice Upgrade Policies / Interop Modes Traditional PBX
  • 25. Skype for Business Online Upgrade Policies / Interop Modes Direct Routing with Session Border Controller Upgrade Policies / Interop Modes & Microsoft Cloud Connector Edition
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  • 27. Migrating From Microsoft Teams Skype for Business On-Prem or Online
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  • 29.  Microsoft Teams and Skype for Business coexistence and interoperability  Understanding coexistence and upgrade journey for SfB and Teams  Migration and interoperability guidance for organizations using Teams together with SfB
  • 31. User Group 1 User Group 2 User Group 3 User Group 4 User Group 5 Island Mode Teams Only Mode Single Client Mode Prepare Next Migration Future StateMigrationEvaluate Today 2018 2019 2020 Future
  • 32. User Group 1 User Group 2 User Group 3 User Group 4 User Group 5 Island Mode Single Client Mode Teams Only Mode Group Collab + Meetings Only Mode Single Client Mode Group Collab + Meetings Only Mode Group Collab Only Mode Prepare Next Migration Future StateMigrationEvaluate Today 2018 2019 2020 Future
  • 33. User Group 1 User Group 2 User Group 3 User Group 4 User Group 5 Prepare Hybrid Skype for Business Server with Office 365 Single Client Mode Teams Only Mode Group Collab + Meetings Only Mode Single Client Mode Prepare Next Migration Future StateMigrationEvaluate Island Mode Group Collab + Meetings Only Mode Today 2018 2019 2020 Future
  • 34. User Group 1 User Group 2 User Group 3 User Group 4 User Group 5 Prepare Hybrid Skype for Business Server with Office 365 Single Client Mode Teams Only Mode Group Collab + Meetings Only Mode with Skype for Business Server 2019 Prepare Next Migration Future StateMigrationEvaluate Island Mode Group Collab + Meetings Only Mode Today 2018 2019 2020 Future
  • 35. Potential Teams Migration blockers         • • • • • • • •
  • 36. Microsoft Phone System for US for Skype for Business Only & Teams Office 365 Office 365 Hybrid SFB Server w Office 365 SFB Server w PSTN Routing Office 365 Hybrid SFB Server w Office 365 SFB Server for Regulatory Compliance Skype for Business Hybrid with PSTN Routing for Office 365 including Hosting Users for Complex PSTN Skype for Business Server required for all Regulatory & Compliance Users Direct Routing For Teams
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  • 42. Identity Mode NotifySfbUsers Action -------- ---- -------------- ------ Global Legacy False None Tag:NoUpgrade Legacy False None Tag:NotifyForTeams Legacy True Notify Tag:UpgradeToTeams TeamsOnly False Upgrade Tag:Islands Islands False None Tag:IslandsWithNotify Islands True Notify Tag:SfBOnly SfBOnly False None Tag:SfBOnlyWithNotify SfBOnly True Notify Tag:SfBWithTeamsCollab SfBWithTeamsCollab False None Tag:SfBWithTeamsCollabWithNotify SfBWithTeamsCollab True Notify Get-CsTeamsUpgradePolicy | Select Identity, Mode, NotifySfbUsers, Action
  • 43. Identity CallingDefaultClient ChatDefaultClient -------- -------------------- ----------------- Global Default Default Tag:DisallowOverrideCallingDefaultChatDefault Default Default Tag:DisallowOverrideCallingTeamsChatTeams Teams Teams Tag:DisallowOverrideCallingSfbChatTeams Sfb Teams Tag:AllowOverrideCallingDefaultChatTeams Default Teams Tag:DisallowOverrideCallingDefaultChatTeams Default Teams Tag:AllowOverrideCallingDefaultChatDefault Default Default Tag:DisallowOverrideCallingSfbChatSfb Sfb Sfb Get-CsTeamsInteropPolicy | Select Identity, CallingDefaultClient, ChatDefaultClient
  • 44.
  • 45.
  • 46. SipAddress TeamsUpgradePolicy TeamsInteropPolicy ---------- ------------------ ------------------ sip:userteams2@delimon.be UpgradeToTeams DisallowOverrideCallingTeamsChatTeams sip:userteams3@delimon.be IslandsWithNotify DisallowOverrideCallingDefaultChatDefault sip:usersfb1@delimon.be SfBOnlyWithNotify DisallowOverrideCallingSfbChatSfb sip:usersfb2@delimon.be SfBOnlyWithNotify DisallowOverrideCallingSfbChatSfb sip:userteams1@delimon.be UpgradeToTeams DisallowOverrideCallingTeamsChatTeams Get-CsOnlineUser "user*" | select SipAddress,TeamsUpgradePolicy, TeamsInteropPolicy
  • 47.
  • 49. Cloud Online PSTN Calling (Microsoft Phone System) PSTN Calling (Direct Routing) Federation Skype for Business & Teams Unified Presence (Skype & Teams) This applies when using Teams Only and when Skype for Business Server is used in Hybrid When the Teams User wants to use any of the following features the Skype for Business User must be homed in Online
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  • 51. Modes for Skype for Business User Restrictions Modes for Teams User Island Mode Skype to Teams and Visa Versa Island Mode Except Modes Except Modes Group Collab Only Group Collab & Meetings Only Single Client Skype for Business Single Client Teams
  • 52. Modes for Skype for Business User Restrictions Modes for Teams User Group Collab Only Group Collab & Meetings Only Single Client Skype for Business Rich Chat capabilities between Skype for Business and Teams Desktop & File Sharing Single Client Teams Except Modes Except Modes Island Mode Island Mode
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  • 59. Modes for Skype for Business User Restrictions Modes for Teams User Group Collab Only Single Client Skype for Business Island Mode Skype for Business Client cannot join Teams Meetings and Visa/Versa, Join with Respective Client or just Browser Single Client Teams Island Mode Teams Excluded Modes Excluded Modes Group Collab & Meetings Only
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  • 65. Guest Access Quirks Switching logs you out Guest Account  No Presence  No Calling Capabilities  No PSTN Calls  No Federation
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  • 69. Johan Delimon Chief Solutions Architect Skype for Business & MVP idelimon BVBA, GGEHOSTED, Ordina, Fujitsu

Editor's Notes

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