Lessons learned starting and scaling a healthcare IT company that integrates with major electronic medical record marketplaces. Presented at the 2019 Epic App Orchard Conference.
2. Lesson #1
Don’t assume the end user (patient
or clinician) is the best customer
for your product.
3. 61% of digital health startups
that start B2C end up pivoting to
B2B and selling to payers,
providers, and employers.
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R O C K H E A L T H
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4. The ideal biz model will:
• Allow you to capture more of
the value you create
• Speed your adoption curve
Follow the money.
5. Lesson #2
Your product must either make
money or save money in both a
“fee for service” or ”fee for value”
arrangement.
6. Too few entrepreneurs have grasped
the distinction between a product that
a physician would love to use and a
product that is so critical to the
business that a health system is willing
to pay for it.
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H A L L E T E C C O
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7. At least a 3x ROI is required to create a compelling opportunity.
Less staff/people cost
Less patient leakage
Less staff turnover
ER avoidance
Etc.
Save
$$$
More visits, tests, or
procedures
More complex visits
Improved HEDIS scores
Improved collections
Etc.
Make
$$$
10. Lesson #4
Ensure you have a reasonable chance
of integrating your product into the
EMR. But, if possible, start with a
version of the product that doesn’t
require an integration.
12. Lesson #5
IT time is your primary bottleneck.
You must solve for minimizing
time.
13. IT Priority List
1. EMR Upgrade
2. [Maybe this will be
you]
Server changes
EMR conversion
Go-lives
New EMR features
Content uploads
App Orchard companies
Order set changes
Interface maintenance
VPN setups
Even the smallest IT ask, forces you through this
gauntlet.
14. Lesson #6
Frame your product as a solution
to the “top 3” problems facing the
organization.
16. Two of the most important inventions of modern
medicine
One was quickly adopted. The other was not. Why?
17. Only one made life better for doctors. Anesthesia
changed surgery from a brutal, time-pressured assault
on a shrieking patient to a quiet, considered procedure.
Listerism, by contrast, required the operator to work in a
shower of carbolic acid. Even low dilutions burned the
surgeons’ hands. You can imagine why Lister’s crusade
might have been a tough sell.
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A T U L G A W A N D E
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18. Lesson #8
Finding the right person to “sell” in a
health system can be very challenging.
“Selling” is mostly about coaching
organizations how to buy from you.
24. Lesson #11
Health system sales are very hard
to predict when they will close.
Focus on volume of meetings.
Don’t stop until you are told “no”.
25. All enterprise sales have some flavor of the following.
📱 Champion
Meeting 📫 ROI/Biz Case
📰 Leadership
Meeting
Security /
compliance
🌙
🌈 Contract Redlines
🔊 Contract Signing
📫 IT/Tech Review
📫 Committee(s)
Presentations
📫 Budget Approval
📫 IT Approval
1-3 months 1-3 months 3-6 months 3 months 3 months w/ 80%
26. It takes up to 7 touch points across multiple
modalities to reach a prospect.
27. Lesson #12
Focus on customer/EMR
environments where you can
iterate the fastest. Even better if
you have a development partner.
28. Attributes of a good development
partner
Will pay🌫
Not facing EMR
freezes
upcoming
🍉
Contact(s) able to
speak on your
behalf
🍅
”Name brand”
amongst their
peers
🍜
Story can be
proven with data🎠
Active physician
leadership💉
IT is able to
iterate on the
project
💗
Will give their
time💫
29. Lesson #13
References that can demonstrate a
return on investment are far more
valuable than saying “it works”.
Leadership will be required to make
big changes.
30. • Forward-thinking
• Want to drive change
• Will invest time &
money to make it
happen
• Not concerned being
the 1st to try something
1
• Recognize a need for
change
• Lots of competing
priorities
• Want to see others
prove it first
2
• At risk because they are
far behind
• Culture doesn’t support
new products
3
Health Systems fall into 3 categories
80%
31. Lesson #14
Make sure your engineers are
passionate about the problem
space. Give them context. But still
make integration folks apart of
your team.
33. You may feel like you have achieved product/market fit, but
…
CMIO
CIOCOO CNO
Innovative
Systems
Not
innovative
Systems
Your contacts are on a
continuum…
And health systems are are
on a continuum…
The market is not homogenous.
34. Lesson #16
You will likely not achieve full
market penetration. Focus on
profitability.
36. Lesson #18
The EMR App marketplaces have the
potential to turn the market from
being one “where the best
distribution” wins to one where the
“best product” wins.
First thoughts as as the patient
Everyone has been a patient. Where almost everyone starts.
Its very hard to get patients to pay for anything
Prescribed or recommendd by MD
Payor
Employee benefit
Instead, follow the money and understand how your solution impacts the ecosystem.
Businesses at the end of the day
End user is not the buyer
ROI is the common language of projects, a way to compare
The harder the ROI the better
One of the best ways to drive adoption of your product offering
Benchmark yourself against this
Best case
CoverMyMeds
Electronic process
Could have required integration
Instead sent faxes and then directed to an online portal
Ideally, would have been intergrated, but couldn’t have achieved the scale they did
Pricing? Sales people?
#1 challenge in innovating in Health IT is the IT department
- My favorite example was from a very large system “You need 10 hours of IT work…We won’t be able to get to that for 24 months”
- Refills & burnout
- Our value prop was “don’t do that work”
Patients screened and thrashed from agony
Sepsis was the single biggest killer during surgery
Pasteur work – chemicals also worked beside heat
Used Carbonic acid
Dramatic results
- Used to think that sales was a dirty word
- It’s unclear to me who the correct buyer is
Guiding them on the process
- Once they get into a buying cycle, it will take about 6 months.
Long term people
Investors
Partners
Self
It takes 2 years to bring a product to market.
Even best case it takes almost 10 years to penetrate the market