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Viv Grigg,
2004-17
A new paradigm to serve new fields of missiological knowledge
A Theological
Framework for
the MATUL
degree
An Entrance Story: The Moses –
God-Liberation Conversation in
Exodus 3
Finding God (3-6) in a context of oppression (7)
through solidarity (8), spiritual power (15,20),
advocacy (10), entrepreneurial vision (17),
community organization (16-22)
Transformational
Conversations
My Early Paradigm
Contributions to
Urban Poor
Missiology
These laid the foundations for
multiplication into 200 + new
organizations, 25+ authors
Holistic
Mission
Theology
Apostolic
Orders
Incarnation
My Development of
a Second Wave of
Paradigms (in 90’s)
Urban Poor
Movement
Leadership
Theology of Land
Rights
Transformative
Revival
Economic
Discipleship
Cooperative
Economics
Social
Entrepreneurship
How is this
different from
traditional
theologies?
All theologies are
Contextual Theologies
Irish Catholic
Italian Catholic =
Systematic
German Reformation =
Systematic
Latin American Liberation
= Justice –Based
Theologies
American Evangelical =
modernist logical
Slum Pentecostal = Oral
theologies
European Systematic Theologies
are one type of Contextual Theology
They build on Greek Logic of Plato and Aristotle
Seek to create logical Western philosophical systems
of theological ideas.
Are based on the logic of previous theologians
As with all of the modernist project in Western
academia of the last three centuries, they are based on
Greek logic, but have not succeeded in creating a
unified integrated system of knowledge
Transformational
Conversations
Urban
Theme
Biblical
Analysis
Theological
Analysis
Urban
Analysis
Urban workers do theology differently
What’s a
Transformational
Conversation?
Integrating
Theme
3.Theological
Conversation
2.Biblical
Reflection
4. Socio-
Economic
Conversation
Theology as Collective Action or
Institutionalized Theology
Urban Theological Foundations: Contrasting
Polarities
Is God or was God?
Is God or does God?
Is God incarnate or cosmic?
Is God a holistic Story teller or a rationalist
philosopher?
Transformational
Conversation
4.Transformat-
ional
Conversations
2.Faith
Convers
ations
3.Economic
Conversat-
ions
Epistemology of MATUL
The MATUL is based of a different understanding of
knowledge and theology to that of modernist systematic
theology
It does not grow from logical Catholicism
The centre of Jesus’ theological approach was not
systematic theology
Systematic theology is one type of contextual theology from
Western Europe
MATUL
Based on Urban Contextual Theology
Poor people are largely oral learners.
They are story-tellers not linear Aristotolean logicians
Jesus reached the poor through oral techniques
Storytelling, parables, proverbs,
Transformational
Conversations
Developing Oral Theologies
For Oral Cultures
Developing Formal Theologies
From Oral Cultures
In Urban Contexts
MATUL Theological Process
Every course in the degree is a theological course
But we utilise a “transformational conversations”
approach
We start with situations in the slums and the stories
of those situations then reflect on parallel Biblical
stories to understand Biblical praxis for those
situations
Elements of a Web of Belief
Engaging Postmodernism
Using a web of belief aproach
Recognizes the limits to our capacity to create
integrated fields of logical knowledge
Enables engagement with postmodern story-based
image culture.
Part of New Global Theologies
This is part of a trend in developing global theologies
around the world in developing nations and represents
an information age tribal/global culture 21st century shift.
Emerging Styles of Theology
Historic Systematic Western
Theology
God is (Theology of being and
definitions)
God was (Historical theology of
books, diachronic)
The cosmic God of grand
principles above all things
(systematic theology)
God the rationalist philosopher
(search for THE truth,
closed-minded)
Theology of experts - popes,
bishops and professors, tested
by councils
Modern rationalist, evangelical
Western
Global Conversational Theologies
God does (Do theology, praxis,
action theology)
God is (Theology tested across
cultures in present, synchronic)
God the story-teller living
among us (contextual theology,
oral theology)
God the creative imaginer
(search for his truth into the
present, open-ended)
Theology of the people lead by
Spirit tested by the faith
community
Postmodern, Pentecostal
Indigenous people, Emergent
world
Jesus, Paul & Plato
Paul was trained by Gamaliel, a disciple of Plato and Socrates, as well
as a Hebrew rabbi
Paul rejects deviant philosophic knowledge approaches current in
Corinth in 1 Cor 1.
He Centers on Hebrew wisdom models
Christ is our wisdom
Holy Spirit as source of revelation
Yet he uses all his Greek philosophy training, so he is not rejecting the
academe per se, simply testing it against the revelation of the Spirit,
subjecting it to the centrality of the cross, and indicating that the cross
will never fit with other philosophies.
How to apply this to MATUL
research courses?
Beyond Dialogue: Transformational
Conversations
The Bible is stories (narrative)
Theology is stories
Theology is conversations
e.g.A hui for migrant ethnic
leaders in NZ
2nd generation kids
Role of the theologian as
thematizer
The issue, decoding the
issue in the midst of the
stories in small groups
Integration of the issue
Transformational Conversation on an Issue
4. City
Transformational
Conversation
2.Theological
Conversation
3.Postmodern/
Modern City
Conversation
The Issue
1.Entrance
Stories
Socio-Economic Analysis Biblical Reflection
Theological Analysis
5. New Action Story
Structures as
ConversationalistsInterfacing the
conversations
Transformational Conversation on Land
Rights
4. City
Transformational
Conversation
2.Theological
Conversation
3.Postmodern/
Modern City
Conversation
Land
Rights
1.Entrance
Stories:
Violence,
Dispossession
Socio-Economic Analysis:
UNHabitat Literature,
Best Practices,
Community Organization,
Cross-nation Legislation
Biblical Reflection on
Land and Land Rights,
Jubilee, Prophets,
Exodus,
Theological Analysis:
Brueggeman -3
Movements
5. New Action Stories:
Rebuilding, marches, new
legislation, comm orgn….
Structures as
Conversationalists: Rebuilding
Communities, Community
Organizations Voicing Biblical
Values
Interfacing the
conversations:
Engagement
with NHA
(public
theology),
Jubilee Year,
Research on
Latrines
(Dignity)
Transformational Conversation on an Slum
Latrines
4. City
Transformational
Conversation
2.Theological
Conversation
3.Postmodern/
Modern City
Conversation
The Issue
1.Entrance
Stories
Socio-Economic Analysis Biblical Reflection
Theological Analysis
5. New Action Story
Structures as
ConversationalistsInterfacing the
conversations
Transformational Conversation on an
Entrepreneurship
4. City
Transformational
Conversation
2.Theological
Conversation
3.Postmodern/
Modern City
Conversation
The Issue
1.Entrance
Stories
Socio-Economic Analysis Biblical Reflection
Theological Analysis
5. New Action Story
Structures as
ConversationalistsInterfacing the
conversations
Transformational Conversation about
psychologically damaged slum children
4. City
Transformational
Conversation
2.Theological
Conversation
3.Postmodern/
Modern City
Conversation
The Issue
1.Entrance
Stories
Socio-Economic Analysis Biblical Reflection
Theological Analysis
5. New Action Story
Structures as
ConversationalistsInterfacing the
conversations
Transformational Conversation as a Thesis
Framework
4. City
Transformational
Conversation
2.Theological
Conversation
3.Postmodern/
Modern City
Conversation
The Issue
1.Entrance
Stories
5. New Action Story
Extended Action Research
Moving from one conversation to the next and the next
Action
reflection 3
Action
Reflection
2
Action-
Reflection 1
Initial round of research
New Action steps
1.Global Urban
Conversation
• Holistic Mission
• Revitalization
• City Leadership
2.Encarnacao Alliance:
400 cities
3. APU Internal
Conversation
• Mission to the Poor
• Legal/Admin/Theology
4.Multiplication of 16
Topic/Course
Conversations
• Students
• MATUL Commission
• Partner School Faculty
APU MATUL: Multiple
Transformational
Conversations?
The Los Angeles Conversations
Racism
Unemployment
Homelessness
Opulence
Migration
References
Bevans, S. B., S.V.D. 1996. Models of
Contextual Theology. Maryknoll:
Orbis.
Grigg, Viv. 2009. Grigg, Viv. 2009.
Transformational Conversations.
The Spirit of Christ and the
Postmodern City. Asbury, KY: Emeth
Press, Chap 2.
Kraft, C. (1979). Christianity in Culture:
A Study in Dynamic Biblical
Theologizing in Cross-Cultural
Perspective. Maryknoll: Orbis
Books.
Change Poverty! Contribute to training
learning networks in the slums
Donate at www.urbanleaders.org
For use by partner schools in
the MATUL Commission
Creative commons non-
commercial use permitted.
Transformational
Conversations © 2004-17
Viv Grigg and Urban
Leadership Foundation.

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TUL, 500-2-1 Transformational Urban Conversations Methodology 670-2

  • 2. A new paradigm to serve new fields of missiological knowledge
  • 3. A Theological Framework for the MATUL degree An Entrance Story: The Moses – God-Liberation Conversation in Exodus 3 Finding God (3-6) in a context of oppression (7) through solidarity (8), spiritual power (15,20), advocacy (10), entrepreneurial vision (17), community organization (16-22) Transformational Conversations
  • 4. My Early Paradigm Contributions to Urban Poor Missiology These laid the foundations for multiplication into 200 + new organizations, 25+ authors Holistic Mission Theology Apostolic Orders Incarnation
  • 5. My Development of a Second Wave of Paradigms (in 90’s) Urban Poor Movement Leadership Theology of Land Rights Transformative Revival Economic Discipleship Cooperative Economics Social Entrepreneurship
  • 6. How is this different from traditional theologies?
  • 7. All theologies are Contextual Theologies Irish Catholic Italian Catholic = Systematic German Reformation = Systematic Latin American Liberation = Justice –Based Theologies American Evangelical = modernist logical Slum Pentecostal = Oral theologies
  • 8. European Systematic Theologies are one type of Contextual Theology They build on Greek Logic of Plato and Aristotle Seek to create logical Western philosophical systems of theological ideas. Are based on the logic of previous theologians As with all of the modernist project in Western academia of the last three centuries, they are based on Greek logic, but have not succeeded in creating a unified integrated system of knowledge
  • 11. Urban Theological Foundations: Contrasting Polarities Is God or was God? Is God or does God? Is God incarnate or cosmic? Is God a holistic Story teller or a rationalist philosopher?
  • 13. Epistemology of MATUL The MATUL is based of a different understanding of knowledge and theology to that of modernist systematic theology It does not grow from logical Catholicism The centre of Jesus’ theological approach was not systematic theology Systematic theology is one type of contextual theology from Western Europe
  • 14. MATUL Based on Urban Contextual Theology Poor people are largely oral learners. They are story-tellers not linear Aristotolean logicians Jesus reached the poor through oral techniques Storytelling, parables, proverbs,
  • 15. Transformational Conversations Developing Oral Theologies For Oral Cultures Developing Formal Theologies From Oral Cultures In Urban Contexts
  • 16. MATUL Theological Process Every course in the degree is a theological course But we utilise a “transformational conversations” approach We start with situations in the slums and the stories of those situations then reflect on parallel Biblical stories to understand Biblical praxis for those situations
  • 17. Elements of a Web of Belief
  • 18. Engaging Postmodernism Using a web of belief aproach Recognizes the limits to our capacity to create integrated fields of logical knowledge Enables engagement with postmodern story-based image culture.
  • 19. Part of New Global Theologies This is part of a trend in developing global theologies around the world in developing nations and represents an information age tribal/global culture 21st century shift.
  • 20. Emerging Styles of Theology Historic Systematic Western Theology God is (Theology of being and definitions) God was (Historical theology of books, diachronic) The cosmic God of grand principles above all things (systematic theology) God the rationalist philosopher (search for THE truth, closed-minded) Theology of experts - popes, bishops and professors, tested by councils Modern rationalist, evangelical Western Global Conversational Theologies God does (Do theology, praxis, action theology) God is (Theology tested across cultures in present, synchronic) God the story-teller living among us (contextual theology, oral theology) God the creative imaginer (search for his truth into the present, open-ended) Theology of the people lead by Spirit tested by the faith community Postmodern, Pentecostal Indigenous people, Emergent world
  • 21. Jesus, Paul & Plato Paul was trained by Gamaliel, a disciple of Plato and Socrates, as well as a Hebrew rabbi Paul rejects deviant philosophic knowledge approaches current in Corinth in 1 Cor 1. He Centers on Hebrew wisdom models Christ is our wisdom Holy Spirit as source of revelation Yet he uses all his Greek philosophy training, so he is not rejecting the academe per se, simply testing it against the revelation of the Spirit, subjecting it to the centrality of the cross, and indicating that the cross will never fit with other philosophies.
  • 22. How to apply this to MATUL research courses?
  • 23. Beyond Dialogue: Transformational Conversations The Bible is stories (narrative) Theology is stories Theology is conversations e.g.A hui for migrant ethnic leaders in NZ 2nd generation kids Role of the theologian as thematizer The issue, decoding the issue in the midst of the stories in small groups Integration of the issue
  • 24. Transformational Conversation on an Issue 4. City Transformational Conversation 2.Theological Conversation 3.Postmodern/ Modern City Conversation The Issue 1.Entrance Stories Socio-Economic Analysis Biblical Reflection Theological Analysis 5. New Action Story Structures as ConversationalistsInterfacing the conversations
  • 25. Transformational Conversation on Land Rights 4. City Transformational Conversation 2.Theological Conversation 3.Postmodern/ Modern City Conversation Land Rights 1.Entrance Stories: Violence, Dispossession Socio-Economic Analysis: UNHabitat Literature, Best Practices, Community Organization, Cross-nation Legislation Biblical Reflection on Land and Land Rights, Jubilee, Prophets, Exodus, Theological Analysis: Brueggeman -3 Movements 5. New Action Stories: Rebuilding, marches, new legislation, comm orgn…. Structures as Conversationalists: Rebuilding Communities, Community Organizations Voicing Biblical Values Interfacing the conversations: Engagement with NHA (public theology), Jubilee Year, Research on Latrines (Dignity)
  • 26. Transformational Conversation on an Slum Latrines 4. City Transformational Conversation 2.Theological Conversation 3.Postmodern/ Modern City Conversation The Issue 1.Entrance Stories Socio-Economic Analysis Biblical Reflection Theological Analysis 5. New Action Story Structures as ConversationalistsInterfacing the conversations
  • 27. Transformational Conversation on an Entrepreneurship 4. City Transformational Conversation 2.Theological Conversation 3.Postmodern/ Modern City Conversation The Issue 1.Entrance Stories Socio-Economic Analysis Biblical Reflection Theological Analysis 5. New Action Story Structures as ConversationalistsInterfacing the conversations
  • 28. Transformational Conversation about psychologically damaged slum children 4. City Transformational Conversation 2.Theological Conversation 3.Postmodern/ Modern City Conversation The Issue 1.Entrance Stories Socio-Economic Analysis Biblical Reflection Theological Analysis 5. New Action Story Structures as ConversationalistsInterfacing the conversations
  • 29. Transformational Conversation as a Thesis Framework 4. City Transformational Conversation 2.Theological Conversation 3.Postmodern/ Modern City Conversation The Issue 1.Entrance Stories 5. New Action Story
  • 30. Extended Action Research Moving from one conversation to the next and the next Action reflection 3 Action Reflection 2 Action- Reflection 1 Initial round of research New Action steps
  • 31. 1.Global Urban Conversation • Holistic Mission • Revitalization • City Leadership 2.Encarnacao Alliance: 400 cities 3. APU Internal Conversation • Mission to the Poor • Legal/Admin/Theology 4.Multiplication of 16 Topic/Course Conversations • Students • MATUL Commission • Partner School Faculty APU MATUL: Multiple Transformational Conversations?
  • 32. The Los Angeles Conversations Racism Unemployment Homelessness Opulence Migration
  • 33. References Bevans, S. B., S.V.D. 1996. Models of Contextual Theology. Maryknoll: Orbis. Grigg, Viv. 2009. Grigg, Viv. 2009. Transformational Conversations. The Spirit of Christ and the Postmodern City. Asbury, KY: Emeth Press, Chap 2. Kraft, C. (1979). Christianity in Culture: A Study in Dynamic Biblical Theologizing in Cross-Cultural Perspective. Maryknoll: Orbis Books.
  • 34. Change Poverty! Contribute to training learning networks in the slums Donate at www.urbanleaders.org For use by partner schools in the MATUL Commission Creative commons non- commercial use permitted. Transformational Conversations © 2004-17 Viv Grigg and Urban Leadership Foundation.

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