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The EG/PG Elementary
Student Journey
Sabrina Bond
October 27, 2013
4-5

6-8

Targeting EG/PG 4-5 year olds will require
building relationships with feeder pre-schools
Advantages of entry
at 4-5 years old
Students aren’t yet
demotivated by a poor
prior school fit
High motivation to learn
Ease of social transition
into a new school setting
because all students will
be “new”
Opportunity to build a
tightly-knit cohort creates
a barrier to entry and
minimizes future attrition

Risks

Parents not fully aware of
how extreme their
children's abilities are
Lack of reliability of IQ test
results on young children
- Costly ($500+ for
WISC IV, Stanford
Binet V)
- Need to repeat tests
later if results are
inconclusive or
borderline

How to reach
EG/PG families
Parents rely on outside
opinions to discover their
child’s EG/PG status
Build relationships with
Toronto preschools (esp.
Montessori)
- Teachers ID extreme
ability and offer
reference to Toronto
Academy
Use portfolio of works for
kindergarten
admissions, test for
EG/PG at later age (~6-7)

“We started looking for a private school because her Montessori teachers had pulled me
aside after her first day (18 mos) and said they'd never met a kid like her.”
– Mother of PG daughter, 5

9-11
4-5

6-8

Our primary marketing feed to kindergarten will be
teacher recommendations
Age

Education/Childcare Option

Home care/relative

Daycare

Resources

Pediatrician

Montessori

Teacher feedback

OISE Eric Jackson
Lab School

Preschool
0-3 years

Position as an
alternative to
waitlist parents
(Parents register as
early as conception.
Only 10 boys and
10 girls admitted to
nursery. Attrition
enrolment
thereafter.)

Preschool

Other

To ponder: How can we access pediatrician contact information cheaply? Scrape Google?
Pediatrics associations? IMS health data?

9-11
4-5

6-8

EG/PG 6-8 year olds may not look gifted, so school
psychologists will drive EG/PG identification
Advantages of entry
at 6-8 years old
More data on students’
abilities
IQ tests results more
stable and reliable than at
4-5 years old
Parents increasingly
aware of educational
mismatch in age-linked
classes
Parents may participate in
gifted advocacy

Risks

Some EG/PG children
might develop behaviour
problems or engage in
behaviours that mask their
true ability

Need for “deprogramming”, systematic
down-time that allows a
smooth transition into a
new school setting, before
entering the Toronto
Academy

How to reach
EG/PG families
School psychologists and
gifted co-ordinators
- EG/PG may present
as a behavioural
problem and underachievement if the
child is in a poor-fit
academic setting
Parent advocacy groups
- ABC Ontario
Educational programs or
conferences for gifted
families
- EDGCO

School psychologists will be aware of behavioural problem children, and the most obviously
gifted students will be flagged to gifted co-ordinators in public schools.

9-11
4-5

6-8

We’ll pursue relationship building with the public school
boards to target students finishing kindergarten
Age

Education/Childcare Option

Resources
School psychologist,
Gifted co-ordinator

Public (TDSB/TCDSB)

Montessori

Teacher feedback

OISE Eric Jackson Lab
School

Kindergarten
4-5 years

Position as an
alternative to waitlist
parents
(Parents register as early
as conception. Only 10
boys and 10 girls
admitted to nursery.
Attrition enrolment
thereafter.)

Private

Other

To ponder: How can we access school psychologist contact information cheaply? Scrape
Google? Psychologist associations? School district lists?

9-11
4-5

6-8

Families most likely to be aware of poor educational fit
at 9-11, but tests may yield false negatives for EG/PG
Advantages of entry
at 9-11 years old

Risks

How to reach
EG/PG families

Gifted public programming
(mostly pull-out) now
offered at no extra cost
Public schools pay for
private IQ testing
Poor academic fit is most
obvious to parents and
EG/PG students
Some EG/PG students are
able to self-advocate to
parents for greater
challenge
(e.g. “I’m bored”, “I never
learn anything at
school”, “I hate school”)

Low rate of identifying
EG/PG students in school
diagnostics
- IQ tests conducted by
psychologists who
specialize in detecting
developmental delays
- ID based on
achievement and not
strongly correlated
with EG/PG
High risk for false
negatives testing
- Parents may believe
their EG/PG children
aren’t EG/PG

Same as 6-8 year olds
However, it is harder to
get accurate information
from parents and teachers
because under-served
EG/PG students may
rebel and/or hide their
abilities, making
identification problematic

9-11

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Client journey

  • 1. The EG/PG Elementary Student Journey Sabrina Bond October 27, 2013
  • 2. 4-5 6-8 Targeting EG/PG 4-5 year olds will require building relationships with feeder pre-schools Advantages of entry at 4-5 years old Students aren’t yet demotivated by a poor prior school fit High motivation to learn Ease of social transition into a new school setting because all students will be “new” Opportunity to build a tightly-knit cohort creates a barrier to entry and minimizes future attrition Risks Parents not fully aware of how extreme their children's abilities are Lack of reliability of IQ test results on young children - Costly ($500+ for WISC IV, Stanford Binet V) - Need to repeat tests later if results are inconclusive or borderline How to reach EG/PG families Parents rely on outside opinions to discover their child’s EG/PG status Build relationships with Toronto preschools (esp. Montessori) - Teachers ID extreme ability and offer reference to Toronto Academy Use portfolio of works for kindergarten admissions, test for EG/PG at later age (~6-7) “We started looking for a private school because her Montessori teachers had pulled me aside after her first day (18 mos) and said they'd never met a kid like her.” – Mother of PG daughter, 5 9-11
  • 3. 4-5 6-8 Our primary marketing feed to kindergarten will be teacher recommendations Age Education/Childcare Option Home care/relative Daycare Resources Pediatrician Montessori Teacher feedback OISE Eric Jackson Lab School Preschool 0-3 years Position as an alternative to waitlist parents (Parents register as early as conception. Only 10 boys and 10 girls admitted to nursery. Attrition enrolment thereafter.) Preschool Other To ponder: How can we access pediatrician contact information cheaply? Scrape Google? Pediatrics associations? IMS health data? 9-11
  • 4. 4-5 6-8 EG/PG 6-8 year olds may not look gifted, so school psychologists will drive EG/PG identification Advantages of entry at 6-8 years old More data on students’ abilities IQ tests results more stable and reliable than at 4-5 years old Parents increasingly aware of educational mismatch in age-linked classes Parents may participate in gifted advocacy Risks Some EG/PG children might develop behaviour problems or engage in behaviours that mask their true ability Need for “deprogramming”, systematic down-time that allows a smooth transition into a new school setting, before entering the Toronto Academy How to reach EG/PG families School psychologists and gifted co-ordinators - EG/PG may present as a behavioural problem and underachievement if the child is in a poor-fit academic setting Parent advocacy groups - ABC Ontario Educational programs or conferences for gifted families - EDGCO School psychologists will be aware of behavioural problem children, and the most obviously gifted students will be flagged to gifted co-ordinators in public schools. 9-11
  • 5. 4-5 6-8 We’ll pursue relationship building with the public school boards to target students finishing kindergarten Age Education/Childcare Option Resources School psychologist, Gifted co-ordinator Public (TDSB/TCDSB) Montessori Teacher feedback OISE Eric Jackson Lab School Kindergarten 4-5 years Position as an alternative to waitlist parents (Parents register as early as conception. Only 10 boys and 10 girls admitted to nursery. Attrition enrolment thereafter.) Private Other To ponder: How can we access school psychologist contact information cheaply? Scrape Google? Psychologist associations? School district lists? 9-11
  • 6. 4-5 6-8 Families most likely to be aware of poor educational fit at 9-11, but tests may yield false negatives for EG/PG Advantages of entry at 9-11 years old Risks How to reach EG/PG families Gifted public programming (mostly pull-out) now offered at no extra cost Public schools pay for private IQ testing Poor academic fit is most obvious to parents and EG/PG students Some EG/PG students are able to self-advocate to parents for greater challenge (e.g. “I’m bored”, “I never learn anything at school”, “I hate school”) Low rate of identifying EG/PG students in school diagnostics - IQ tests conducted by psychologists who specialize in detecting developmental delays - ID based on achievement and not strongly correlated with EG/PG High risk for false negatives testing - Parents may believe their EG/PG children aren’t EG/PG Same as 6-8 year olds However, it is harder to get accurate information from parents and teachers because under-served EG/PG students may rebel and/or hide their abilities, making identification problematic 9-11