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Containing complexity:
Experimental practice in an animal behavior
           genetics laboratory




                        Nicole Nelson
     McGill University, Department of Social Studies of
                          Medicine
1. Situating animal behavior genetics
2. Containing complexity: At work in the
   laboratory
3. Building animal models: Epistemic scaffolds
   and experimental systems
4. Framing mouse, human, and discipline
5. The public life of animal behavior genetics
   facts
Cautionary tales and experimental
             practice
We were testing a knockout for drinking alcohol,
and they drank a lot of alcohol compared to wild
types. And we did it three times, and we got the
same answer, three times. And we said ,“Wow,
that’s pretty good.” So we published it, and in the
meantime, we’d gotten more mice to replace
ours because they’d gotten too old to breed
anymore. When we redid the drinking study, and
there was no difference!...
Cautionary tales and experimental
               practice
… So we tested them again, and we got no
difference again! And we were scratching our
heads trying to figure out what went wrong, and
we screwed around with the parameters for a
year trying to figure out what was different, and
we’d get it sometimes, we wouldn’t get it other
times ... one study we’d get it in males, the next
one we’d get it in females . . . it was just really
weird. And then those mice got too old and he
sent us a third batch of mice, and lo and
behold, boom! There it was again, just really big.
Cautionary tales and experimental
                practice



129X1/SVJ     129S1/SvImJ   C57Bl6
Cautionary tales and experimental
                practice



129X1/SVJ     129S1/SvImJ   C57Bl6
Cautionary tales and experimental
              practice
We had this situation last year, two years ago where
we couldn’t get a stimulation effect when our mice
were given methamphetamine. Many strains of mice
will show heightened locomotor behavior when
they’re given a dose of meth compared to the saline
animals. Well, all of a sudden, like we weren’t seeing
that in our animals. We’d seen it multiple, multiple
times. They didn’t show this acute response, and it
was just kind of like what the hell is going on? I
mean, I had people watch me make the drug, I had
people watch me do everything just make sure that
that wasn’t the problem.
Theorizing laboratory breakdowns

          Collins: The “experimenter’s
          regress” in cutting edge science



                       Jordan and Lynch:
                       Breakdowns in
                       routine scientific
                       practice
Theorizing laboratory breakdowns
Theorizing laboratory breakdowns
G9: The more complex behavior is, the harder it is to get it to work.
  And so for whatever unknown reason, things don't always turn out
  as you expect them to.

NN: Like the mice wouldn't show a preference?

G9: Or all of a sudden they show some sort of innate bias for one side
  versus the other for no particular reason.

NN: They decide they like the floor with the holes in it, and that's that?

G9: Yep, exactly. And so there are just difficulties with that, to get it set
  up and running. It's not so much a technical problem, it's just
  something that since it's so complicated, you can't figure out what's
  going on that you're not controlling for.
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  • 1. Containing complexity: Experimental practice in an animal behavior genetics laboratory Nicole Nelson McGill University, Department of Social Studies of Medicine
  • 2.
  • 3.
  • 4.
  • 5. 1. Situating animal behavior genetics 2. Containing complexity: At work in the laboratory 3. Building animal models: Epistemic scaffolds and experimental systems 4. Framing mouse, human, and discipline 5. The public life of animal behavior genetics facts
  • 6. Cautionary tales and experimental practice We were testing a knockout for drinking alcohol, and they drank a lot of alcohol compared to wild types. And we did it three times, and we got the same answer, three times. And we said ,“Wow, that’s pretty good.” So we published it, and in the meantime, we’d gotten more mice to replace ours because they’d gotten too old to breed anymore. When we redid the drinking study, and there was no difference!...
  • 7. Cautionary tales and experimental practice … So we tested them again, and we got no difference again! And we were scratching our heads trying to figure out what went wrong, and we screwed around with the parameters for a year trying to figure out what was different, and we’d get it sometimes, we wouldn’t get it other times ... one study we’d get it in males, the next one we’d get it in females . . . it was just really weird. And then those mice got too old and he sent us a third batch of mice, and lo and behold, boom! There it was again, just really big.
  • 8. Cautionary tales and experimental practice 129X1/SVJ 129S1/SvImJ C57Bl6
  • 9. Cautionary tales and experimental practice 129X1/SVJ 129S1/SvImJ C57Bl6
  • 10. Cautionary tales and experimental practice We had this situation last year, two years ago where we couldn’t get a stimulation effect when our mice were given methamphetamine. Many strains of mice will show heightened locomotor behavior when they’re given a dose of meth compared to the saline animals. Well, all of a sudden, like we weren’t seeing that in our animals. We’d seen it multiple, multiple times. They didn’t show this acute response, and it was just kind of like what the hell is going on? I mean, I had people watch me make the drug, I had people watch me do everything just make sure that that wasn’t the problem.
  • 11. Theorizing laboratory breakdowns Collins: The “experimenter’s regress” in cutting edge science Jordan and Lynch: Breakdowns in routine scientific practice
  • 13. Theorizing laboratory breakdowns G9: The more complex behavior is, the harder it is to get it to work. And so for whatever unknown reason, things don't always turn out as you expect them to. NN: Like the mice wouldn't show a preference? G9: Or all of a sudden they show some sort of innate bias for one side versus the other for no particular reason. NN: They decide they like the floor with the holes in it, and that's that? G9: Yep, exactly. And so there are just difficulties with that, to get it set up and running. It's not so much a technical problem, it's just something that since it's so complicated, you can't figure out what's going on that you're not controlling for.
  • 14. Managing genes and environments
  • 15. Managing genes and environments
  • 16. Managing genes and environments
  • 17. Managing genes and environments