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Between Gay and Queer, the
Dyke
Megan Obourn
Associate Professor of English
The College at Brockport, SUNY
mobourn@brockport.edu
Qs
• Was the dyke already queer in that she could not be fully
represented as a subject?
• Has queer simply continued to reinforce the invisibility of lesbians?
• Is queer more acceptable as a radical subject position than
lesbianism and if so why?
• In our current moment where is the popular cultural fetish for
lesbianism that attends gay masculinity?
• Is woman already a “queer” position that undoes the possibility for
a more limited but privileged because identifiable subject position
like “gay”?
• What kinds of possibility for gender identity are foreclosed by the
term lesbian and/or the representation of the dyke?
• And is this foreclosure the reason for more female identifiable and
gender normative lesbian characters on television?
Orange is the New Black
2013, Jenji Kohan
OITNB Representational Possibilities
Narrative Frames
From Aura Bogado’s “White is the New
White,” The Nation. 16 August 2013
• With very little exception, I saw wildly racist tropes: black women
who, aside from fanaticizing about fried chicken, are called
monkeys and Crazy Eyes; a Boricua mother who connives with her
daughter for the sexual attentions of a white prison guard; an Asian
woman who never speaks; and a crazy Latina woman who tucks
away in a bathroom stall to photograph her vagina.
• I will acknowledge that Orange Is the New Black has created a
credible role for a trans black woman, played by Laverne Cox, an
actual trans black woman. And I can’t deny that the series has
created a payroll for many actors of color. But again, just like the
practice 150 years ago during the height of the slave narrative era,
those experiences are first authenticated by a white person—in this
case, a white woman whose prison stint can never be a substitute
for the violence institutionally carried out against women of color in
the criminal justice system.
Baths and Showers Before
And after
Taystee Poussey
Big Boo Black
Big(g) Boo’s Sex scene
Lea DeLaria Huffington Post Interview
Lesbians are very dangerous
Suzanne “Crazy Eyes” Warren
Piper’s lens focalizing Sue
Urination Scenes
Sophia, played by Laverne Cox and her
brother M. Lamar
“Utopia is the education of
desire”
José Esteban Muñoz
Claire Potter on Jodie Foster’s comingout-not-coming-out speech
• How to think about this little exercise
in narcissism, one that so trivializes the
struggles of most GLBTQ people in
comparison to Foster’s depiction of
herself as “a fragile girl”?
• People of color, queer or not, rich or
poor, can’t walk down the street, or
into a store, or into their own
apartment buildings, or drive down the
street in their own cars, without
knowing that they can be stopped,
frisked and arrested at any moment on
suspicion of being a threat to
public safety.
Bibliography
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•
•
•
•

“Orange is the New Black”
Potter, Claire
Munoz, Jose
Witting
De Lauretis

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Between gay and queer, the dyke updated

  • 1. Between Gay and Queer, the Dyke Megan Obourn Associate Professor of English The College at Brockport, SUNY mobourn@brockport.edu
  • 2. Qs • Was the dyke already queer in that she could not be fully represented as a subject? • Has queer simply continued to reinforce the invisibility of lesbians? • Is queer more acceptable as a radical subject position than lesbianism and if so why? • In our current moment where is the popular cultural fetish for lesbianism that attends gay masculinity? • Is woman already a “queer” position that undoes the possibility for a more limited but privileged because identifiable subject position like “gay”? • What kinds of possibility for gender identity are foreclosed by the term lesbian and/or the representation of the dyke? • And is this foreclosure the reason for more female identifiable and gender normative lesbian characters on television?
  • 3. Orange is the New Black 2013, Jenji Kohan
  • 6. From Aura Bogado’s “White is the New White,” The Nation. 16 August 2013 • With very little exception, I saw wildly racist tropes: black women who, aside from fanaticizing about fried chicken, are called monkeys and Crazy Eyes; a Boricua mother who connives with her daughter for the sexual attentions of a white prison guard; an Asian woman who never speaks; and a crazy Latina woman who tucks away in a bathroom stall to photograph her vagina. • I will acknowledge that Orange Is the New Black has created a credible role for a trans black woman, played by Laverne Cox, an actual trans black woman. And I can’t deny that the series has created a payroll for many actors of color. But again, just like the practice 150 years ago during the height of the slave narrative era, those experiences are first authenticated by a white person—in this case, a white woman whose prison stint can never be a substitute for the violence institutionally carried out against women of color in the criminal justice system.
  • 12. Lea DeLaria Huffington Post Interview
  • 13. Lesbians are very dangerous
  • 17. Sophia, played by Laverne Cox and her brother M. Lamar
  • 18. “Utopia is the education of desire” José Esteban Muñoz
  • 19. Claire Potter on Jodie Foster’s comingout-not-coming-out speech • How to think about this little exercise in narcissism, one that so trivializes the struggles of most GLBTQ people in comparison to Foster’s depiction of herself as “a fragile girl”? • People of color, queer or not, rich or poor, can’t walk down the street, or into a store, or into their own apartment buildings, or drive down the street in their own cars, without knowing that they can be stopped, frisked and arrested at any moment on suspicion of being a threat to public safety.
  • 20. Bibliography • • • • • “Orange is the New Black” Potter, Claire Munoz, Jose Witting De Lauretis