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Lennard Funk
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lenfunk@shoulderdoc.co.uk
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• Prof. Waqar Bhatti
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• Dr. Jonathan Harris
• Dr. Sarah Jackson
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QUIZ
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QUESTION A
My IDEAL investigation for cuff pathology
is:
a. Ultrasound
b. MRI
c. MR Arthrogram
d. CT Arthrogram
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QUESTION B
My IDEAL investigation for Instability is:
a. Ultrasound
b. MRI
c. MR Arthrogram
d. CT Arthrogram
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QUESTION 1
Radiologists are better at interpreting MRI
scans than surgeons:
a. True
!
b. False
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QUESTION 2
MRI Sequences:
a. T1 is best for pathology
b. In T2 fat tissue is bright
c. A long TR is shows inflammation
b. STIR is a Fat Suppression sequence
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QUESTION 3
MR Arthrogram:
a. ABER improves accuracy
b. Cannot show Bony lesions
c. Is not ideal for fatty infiltration
d. Is 100% accurate for labral tears
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AMBIGUOUS REPORTS
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“Full width tear”
“Advanced muscle atrophy

along with Infraspinatus”
“mild atrophy
supraspinatus”
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CONFUSING REPORTS
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There is a partial full tear of the
supraspinatus tendon.
There is a complete partial tear of the
supraspinatus tendon.
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INADEQUATE SCANS
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Grainy Shadows
Movement
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CUFF PATHOLOGY IN ASYMPTOMATIC
• 96 MRI’s viewed by 2 radiologists
• 20% PTT; 15% FTT
– Increased with age:
• >60yrs = 55% PTT; 30% FTT
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Sher et al. JBJS. 1995
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MR ARTHROGRAM V. SCOPE
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Sensitivity Specificity Accuracy
SLAP 0.42 0.92 77%
Rotator Cuff Tear 0.50 0.86 83%
Hill Sachs 0.91 0.78 90%
Bankart 0.85 0.83 86%
N Karlson, J Geoghan, L Funk; 2008
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RADIOLOGIST LOCALITY
• Nine radiologists - regional & secondary care
• MR diagnostic accuracy is better when surgeon and
radiologist work in the same institution.
• Differences between local- and non-local MRA data
suggest that diagnostic accuracy is better in the local
secondary referral centre.
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N Karlson, J Geoghan, L Funk; SECEC 2011
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DO NOT RELY ON THE SCAN REPORT
An experienced Shoulder Surgeon better
Can correlate with clinical context
Experience of reviewing Scopes & Scans
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MRI BASICS
• T1 - Fat Bright - Anatomy
• T2 - Water Bright - Pathology
• Standard 3mm thick slices
• Thick slices = more signal & less grainy, but
lower spatial resolution (due to volume
averaging)
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MRI BASICS
• PD = Long TR & Short TE
• T1 = Short TR & Short TE
• T2 = Long TR & Long TE
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• TE is always < TR
• Short TR < 500ms
• Long TR > 1500ms
• Short TE < 30ms
• Long TE > 90ms
http://www.imaios.com/en/e-Courses/e-MRI/MRI-signal-contrast/Signal-weighting
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MRI BASICS
• Fat Suppression
• PDFS
• T2 Gradient Echo
• STIR
• SPIR
• SPAIR
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• Labral Tears
• Bankart
• Perthes
• ALPSA
• SLAP
• GLAD
• GLOM
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T1 WI T2 FS
INFLAMMATION
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MUSCLE OEDEMA
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T1 FS T2 FS
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LABRAL TEARS
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T1 WI T1 FS
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PLAIN MRI SEQUENCES
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• Hospital 1:
• Hospital 2:
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MRI SEQUENCES
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• No universal standards
• Each Hospital has different MRI Protocols
• Each Radiologist has different experience
• Each clinical question demands different approach
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PLAIN MRI - PREFERENCES
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1. Full Series
!
!
2. T1 Axial - Bony Bankarts
3. T1 Sag - Bony Bankarts
4. T1 Sag - extend medial to scapula ‘Y’
5. T2 FS Cor - Cuff, ACJ, Bursa
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T1 WITH FS
SAGITTAL IN GLENOID PLANE
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SCAPULA ‘Y’ ON T1WI
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ARTEFACT
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ARTEFACT
• Rotator cuff repair
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ARTEFACT
• ACJ Metalwork
• Deodorant spray in axilla
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MR ARTHROGRAM
• Direct / Indirect
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INDIRECT ARTHROGRAM
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INDIRECT ARTHROGRAM
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ABER
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ABER
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SUMMARY
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• Beware / Be aware of Reports
• Full 6 series
• T1 FS Axial - Instability
• T2 FS Cor - Rotator Cuff
• T1 Sag to Scapula ‘Y’
• MRA:
– Direct
– T1 FS in 2 planes (axial; sagittal)
– ABER (if able)
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RELATIONSHIPS
• Clinical Imaging is a ‘request for consultation to
clarify a clinical query’
• NOT ‘ordering’ an investigation
!
• Vetting of request should be an MSK Radiologist
• Provide clear clinical info and query
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I can see it now !
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QUIZ
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QUESTION 1
Radiologists are better at interpreting MRI
scans than surgeons:
a. True
!
b. False
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QUESTION 2
MRI Sequences:
a. T1 is best for pathology
b. In T2 fat tissue is bright
c. A long TR is shows inflammation
b. STIR is a Fat Suppression sequence
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QUESTION 3
MR Arthrogram:
a. ABER improves accuracy
b. Cannot show Bony lesions
c. Is not ideal for fatty infiltration
d. Is 100% accurate for labral tears
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Shoulder MRI for Surgeons

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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org Lennard Funk 1 lenfunk@shoulderdoc.co.uk
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org • Prof. Waqar Bhatti 2 • Dr. Jonathan Harris • Dr. Sarah Jackson
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org QUIZ 3
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 4 QUESTION A My IDEAL investigation for cuff pathology is: a. Ultrasound b. MRI c. MR Arthrogram d. CT Arthrogram
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 5 QUESTION B My IDEAL investigation for Instability is: a. Ultrasound b. MRI c. MR Arthrogram d. CT Arthrogram
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org QUESTION 1 Radiologists are better at interpreting MRI scans than surgeons: a. True ! b. False 6
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 7 QUESTION 2 MRI Sequences: a. T1 is best for pathology b. In T2 fat tissue is bright c. A long TR is shows inflammation b. STIR is a Fat Suppression sequence
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 8 QUESTION 3 MR Arthrogram: a. ABER improves accuracy b. Cannot show Bony lesions c. Is not ideal for fatty infiltration d. Is 100% accurate for labral tears
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 9 MRI
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org AMBIGUOUS REPORTS 10 “Full width tear” “Advanced muscle atrophy
 along with Infraspinatus” “mild atrophy supraspinatus”
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org CONFUSING REPORTS 14 There is a partial full tear of the supraspinatus tendon. There is a complete partial tear of the supraspinatus tendon.
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org INADEQUATE SCANS 15 Grainy Shadows Movement
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org CUFF PATHOLOGY IN ASYMPTOMATIC • 96 MRI’s viewed by 2 radiologists • 20% PTT; 15% FTT – Increased with age: • >60yrs = 55% PTT; 30% FTT 16 Sher et al. JBJS. 1995
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org MR ARTHROGRAM V. SCOPE 17 Sensitivity Specificity Accuracy SLAP 0.42 0.92 77% Rotator Cuff Tear 0.50 0.86 83% Hill Sachs 0.91 0.78 90% Bankart 0.85 0.83 86% N Karlson, J Geoghan, L Funk; 2008
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org RADIOLOGIST LOCALITY • Nine radiologists - regional & secondary care • MR diagnostic accuracy is better when surgeon and radiologist work in the same institution. • Differences between local- and non-local MRA data suggest that diagnostic accuracy is better in the local secondary referral centre. 18 N Karlson, J Geoghan, L Funk; SECEC 2011
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org DO NOT RELY ON THE SCAN REPORT An experienced Shoulder Surgeon better Can correlate with clinical context Experience of reviewing Scopes & Scans 19
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org MRI BASICS • T1 - Fat Bright - Anatomy • T2 - Water Bright - Pathology • Standard 3mm thick slices • Thick slices = more signal & less grainy, but lower spatial resolution (due to volume averaging) 20
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org MRI BASICS • PD = Long TR & Short TE • T1 = Short TR & Short TE • T2 = Long TR & Long TE 21 • TE is always < TR • Short TR < 500ms • Long TR > 1500ms • Short TE < 30ms • Long TE > 90ms http://www.imaios.com/en/e-Courses/e-MRI/MRI-signal-contrast/Signal-weighting
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org MRI BASICS • Fat Suppression • PDFS • T2 Gradient Echo • STIR • SPIR • SPAIR 25 • Labral Tears • Bankart • Perthes • ALPSA • SLAP • GLAD • GLOM
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 26 T1 WI T2 FS INFLAMMATION
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org MUSCLE OEDEMA 27 T1 FS T2 FS
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org LABRAL TEARS 28 T1 WI T1 FS
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org PLAIN MRI SEQUENCES 29 • Hospital 1: • Hospital 2:
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org MRI SEQUENCES 30 • No universal standards • Each Hospital has different MRI Protocols • Each Radiologist has different experience • Each clinical question demands different approach
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 31
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org PLAIN MRI - PREFERENCES 32 1. Full Series ! ! 2. T1 Axial - Bony Bankarts 3. T1 Sag - Bony Bankarts 4. T1 Sag - extend medial to scapula ‘Y’ 5. T2 FS Cor - Cuff, ACJ, Bursa
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org T1 WITH FS SAGITTAL IN GLENOID PLANE 33
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org SCAPULA ‘Y’ ON T1WI 34
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org ARTEFACT 35
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org ARTEFACT • Rotator cuff repair 36
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org ARTEFACT • ACJ Metalwork • Deodorant spray in axilla 37
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org MR ARTHROGRAM • Direct / Indirect 38
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org INDIRECT ARTHROGRAM 39
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 40 INDIRECT ARTHROGRAM
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org ABER 43
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 44 ABER
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org MR ARTHROGRAM • Direct / Indirect 45
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org SUMMARY 46 • Beware / Be aware of Reports • Full 6 series • T1 FS Axial - Instability • T2 FS Cor - Rotator Cuff • T1 Sag to Scapula ‘Y’ • MRA: – Direct – T1 FS in 2 planes (axial; sagittal) – ABER (if able)
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org RELATIONSHIPS • Clinical Imaging is a ‘request for consultation to clarify a clinical query’ • NOT ‘ordering’ an investigation ! • Vetting of request should be an MSK Radiologist • Provide clear clinical info and query 47
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 48 I can see it now !
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org QUIZ 49
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org QUESTION 1 Radiologists are better at interpreting MRI scans than surgeons: a. True ! b. False 50
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 51 QUESTION 2 MRI Sequences: a. T1 is best for pathology b. In T2 fat tissue is bright c. A long TR is shows inflammation b. STIR is a Fat Suppression sequence
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    AMSTERDAM / THENETHERLANDS www.esska-congress.org 52 QUESTION 3 MR Arthrogram: a. ABER improves accuracy b. Cannot show Bony lesions c. Is not ideal for fatty infiltration d. Is 100% accurate for labral tears
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