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Why can’t we all just get along?
Should Sales and Marketing share a bed
or book separate rooms?
Bruce Kopkin
Vice President of Sales
OmniVue
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Who am I?
• 30+ years of Sales and Marketing positions in enterprise
software, controls, automation and system technologies.
• Success in turning under-performing businesses into
winners – focusing on sales and marketing.
• Increased revenues and profits through coaching,
training, process and organization.
www.omnivue.net
www.esma-atlanta.org
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Today’s Challenges
External
• Buyers are hiding behind the Web, Google and Voice Mail
• Social media is replacing references
• Sarbanes-Oxley
• The economy - Future uncertainty
Internal
• Reduced T&E expenses
• Reduced training costs
• Reduced marketing costs
• Do more with less
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Almost Everything is Changing
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What’s the difference between
Sales and Marketing people?
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Sales vs. Marketing
• Tactical..…Strategic
• Short term..…Long term
• Reactive…..Proactive
• Coin-operated…..Initiative-oriented
• Opportunity.….Brand
We’re different, but that’s OK
8
Signs of Disconnect
• What is a sales meeting?
• Who is on your “sales” team?
• Quota required to be “sales”
• “I need more leads”
• “Why can’t you close the great leads I gave you?”
• “I have a quota to make this month”
• “Our Brand is improving”
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What Is The Disconnect?
• Sales executives are three times as critical about the quality of
leads being generated than their marketing counterparts.
• They are twice as critical in assessing the quantity of leads.
• A major miscommunication is the lack of agreement about what
constitutes a qualified lead.
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What is the #1 Marketing Challenge?
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Who Likes This?
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Is This The Solution?
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The “Sales” Funnel – The Problem??
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What Is A Qualified Lead?
• Must have a common language
• It is not a lead unless accepted by sales
• Marketing has “right” to monitor progress.
• The project is budgeted
• A timeframe is identified
• They want a price
• An RFP is forthcoming
• Downloaded a white
paper
• Attended a webcast
• Visited a booth
• On a purchased list
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Marketing is key to prime the funnel
17
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Sales is easy with proper Marketing
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So….What Do We Do?
Now for some ISA technical stuff
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What Works?
• A single responsible person – CRO
• Bi-directional input and feedback
• Bi-directional handover
• Incentive Plans
– Accepted leads
– Close rate
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Lead Generation Process
Email blasts
Booth visits
(warm)
Manual
Filter
CRM Qualification
CRM
Sales
Specific
Projects
(cold)
Partner
Opportunity
Reports
Reject
Steps to
the
Order
Drip
Marketing
Marketing
Analysis
Web contact
800#
(warm)
Reject
Opportunity
Review
RejectReject Reject
Appt Setting
(warm)
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Lead Handover Process
Review
Selection
Team Review
- SE
- Manager
- Presales
- Marketing
- Product
Decision Criteria
- Market
- Revenue
- Solution
- Partners
- Legacy systems
- Competition
Solution
- Product
- Gaps
- Partners
- Interfaces
Strategy
- Vision
- To be/as is
- Phases
- Schedule
- Pricing
- Competition
- Leader/laggard
Team
- Exec. Sponsor
- Members
Steps to the Order
Qualified Lead
Sales
Executive
Go/No Go
Reject
Updates
- Review schedule
- Milestones
Prospect
Discovery
Call
Steps to the
Order
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Sales Process
Lead Positioning
Steps to the
Order
Qualification
Questionaire
Opportunity
Questionnaire
Reject Reject
Negotiation
Planner
Proposal
Survey
Proposal
Qualification
aire Survey
Close
Win Loss
Analysis
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Sales and Marketing as a Team!
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First Steps To A Unified Team
• Get Executive commitment
• Develop an end to end process with accountability
• Develop definitions – particularly for a leads
• Create a closed loop feedback process for continuing
improvement
• Develop complimentary incentive plans with metrics
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In Conclusion…
• Baby steps
• Celebrate the small wins
• Communicate
• Common targets and incentives
Together, we’re all better!
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Or you can….
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Thank you very much
Bruce Kopkin
770-330-9867 cell
bkopkin@gmail.com

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  • 1. Standards Certification Education & Training Publishing Conferences & Exhibits Why can’t we all just get along? Should Sales and Marketing share a bed or book separate rooms? Bruce Kopkin Vice President of Sales OmniVue
  • 2. 2 Who am I? • 30+ years of Sales and Marketing positions in enterprise software, controls, automation and system technologies. • Success in turning under-performing businesses into winners – focusing on sales and marketing. • Increased revenues and profits through coaching, training, process and organization. www.omnivue.net www.esma-atlanta.org
  • 3. 3 Today’s Challenges External • Buyers are hiding behind the Web, Google and Voice Mail • Social media is replacing references • Sarbanes-Oxley • The economy - Future uncertainty Internal • Reduced T&E expenses • Reduced training costs • Reduced marketing costs • Do more with less
  • 5. 5 What’s the difference between Sales and Marketing people?
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  • 7. 7 Sales vs. Marketing • Tactical..…Strategic • Short term..…Long term • Reactive…..Proactive • Coin-operated…..Initiative-oriented • Opportunity.….Brand We’re different, but that’s OK
  • 8. 8 Signs of Disconnect • What is a sales meeting? • Who is on your “sales” team? • Quota required to be “sales” • “I need more leads” • “Why can’t you close the great leads I gave you?” • “I have a quota to make this month” • “Our Brand is improving”
  • 9. 9 What Is The Disconnect? • Sales executives are three times as critical about the quality of leads being generated than their marketing counterparts. • They are twice as critical in assessing the quantity of leads. • A major miscommunication is the lack of agreement about what constitutes a qualified lead.
  • 10. 10 What is the #1 Marketing Challenge?
  • 12. 12 Is This The Solution?
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  • 14. 14 The “Sales” Funnel – The Problem??
  • 15. 15 What Is A Qualified Lead? • Must have a common language • It is not a lead unless accepted by sales • Marketing has “right” to monitor progress. • The project is budgeted • A timeframe is identified • They want a price • An RFP is forthcoming • Downloaded a white paper • Attended a webcast • Visited a booth • On a purchased list
  • 16. 16 Marketing is key to prime the funnel
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  • 18. 18 Sales is easy with proper Marketing
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  • 20. 20 So….What Do We Do? Now for some ISA technical stuff
  • 21. 21 What Works? • A single responsible person – CRO • Bi-directional input and feedback • Bi-directional handover • Incentive Plans – Accepted leads – Close rate
  • 22. 22 Lead Generation Process Email blasts Booth visits (warm) Manual Filter CRM Qualification CRM Sales Specific Projects (cold) Partner Opportunity Reports Reject Steps to the Order Drip Marketing Marketing Analysis Web contact 800# (warm) Reject Opportunity Review RejectReject Reject Appt Setting (warm)
  • 23. 23 Lead Handover Process Review Selection Team Review - SE - Manager - Presales - Marketing - Product Decision Criteria - Market - Revenue - Solution - Partners - Legacy systems - Competition Solution - Product - Gaps - Partners - Interfaces Strategy - Vision - To be/as is - Phases - Schedule - Pricing - Competition - Leader/laggard Team - Exec. Sponsor - Members Steps to the Order Qualified Lead Sales Executive Go/No Go Reject Updates - Review schedule - Milestones Prospect Discovery Call Steps to the Order
  • 24. 24 Sales Process Lead Positioning Steps to the Order Qualification Questionaire Opportunity Questionnaire Reject Reject Negotiation Planner Proposal Survey Proposal Qualification aire Survey Close Win Loss Analysis
  • 26. 26 First Steps To A Unified Team • Get Executive commitment • Develop an end to end process with accountability • Develop definitions – particularly for a leads • Create a closed loop feedback process for continuing improvement • Develop complimentary incentive plans with metrics
  • 27. 27 In Conclusion… • Baby steps • Celebrate the small wins • Communicate • Common targets and incentives Together, we’re all better!
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  • 30. 30 Thank you very much Bruce Kopkin 770-330-9867 cell bkopkin@gmail.com