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Postfix(JP) ML のすごし方 


          ARAKI Yasuhiro
          Debian Project
          ar@debian.org
MLとの楽しい付き合い方
   よろしくない質問例
    –   日本語がオカシイ
    –   恨み節
    –   ~とおなじように
    –   以前は~
    –   仕事の丸投げ
    –   環境の説明をしない、ログを添付しない

   よろしくない回答をするくらいなら、他の人に任せましょう
    –   説教とか、茶々とか



             でもなーーー
こまったベンダー
   I wish vendors would stop shipping obsolete
    software. Postfix 2.1 is almost finished, and
    they still ship Postfix 1.1.
   Any particular distribution, like RedHat or
    something that I may have on a ready-to-
    install CD? I would not spend a day
    downloading bits and pieces.
   If a reboot fixes a problem then it is not a
    Postfix problem, but rather a broken
    operating system.
SPAM対策はやりすぎるな


   Spammers do not destroy the infrastructure. It's good-willing
    folks who destroy it with lame countermeasures.
   Sorry, good-willing folks with lame counter-measures are
    destroying the infrastructure faster. Postfix must be kept free
    from such crud.
   Don't ask me to have the Postfix create multiple queue files per
    input transaction, one per recipient class. It's either not robust
    or it' incredibly expensive.
計測しようよ
   Your best option is to measure the
    performance (for example, with the smtp-
    source and smtp-sink utilities that ship with
    Postfix).
   With 130.000 queue files, one level of
    hashing is probably sufficient. The exact
    number depends on your hardware and on
    your file system implementation.
   Too many levels will actually slow Postfix
    down.
限界を知りましょう
   On a faster LAN, sending a 1-bit query takes
    as long as sending a 1000 bit query.
   Faster LANs don't make bits go faster. They
    make bits travel more closely together, so
    that more bits arrive per unit time.
   Still, the bits don't go faster than the speed of
    light.
打つ前に考えましょう
   Next time, please engage the brain
    before hitting the keyboard.
Happy Postfixing!!
Postfix-users ML can split?

Expert, beginner, … とすると質問が分散して、下
  手すると bounce する
Postfix users group JP( 仮称 )

   「仮称」はとれるのか?
    –   とくになくてもいいんじゃないか
    –   Ad-hoc
Undocumented

   すべての可能性について考えるのは難しい
Postfix を入れたときの問題点

   ふつうに使うぶんには問題ない?
   他と組み合わせたときの方法があまり知られて
    いない
    –   Amavis とか、、、、
    –   そういうのはMLに投げましょう。

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Postfix(JP) MLのすごし方

  • 1. Postfix(JP) ML のすごし方  ARAKI Yasuhiro Debian Project ar@debian.org
  • 2. MLとの楽しい付き合い方  よろしくない質問例 – 日本語がオカシイ – 恨み節 – ~とおなじように – 以前は~ – 仕事の丸投げ – 環境の説明をしない、ログを添付しない  よろしくない回答をするくらいなら、他の人に任せましょう – 説教とか、茶々とか でもなーーー
  • 3. こまったベンダー  I wish vendors would stop shipping obsolete software. Postfix 2.1 is almost finished, and they still ship Postfix 1.1.  Any particular distribution, like RedHat or something that I may have on a ready-to- install CD? I would not spend a day downloading bits and pieces.  If a reboot fixes a problem then it is not a Postfix problem, but rather a broken operating system.
  • 4. SPAM対策はやりすぎるな  Spammers do not destroy the infrastructure. It's good-willing folks who destroy it with lame countermeasures.  Sorry, good-willing folks with lame counter-measures are destroying the infrastructure faster. Postfix must be kept free from such crud.  Don't ask me to have the Postfix create multiple queue files per input transaction, one per recipient class. It's either not robust or it' incredibly expensive.
  • 5. 計測しようよ  Your best option is to measure the performance (for example, with the smtp- source and smtp-sink utilities that ship with Postfix).  With 130.000 queue files, one level of hashing is probably sufficient. The exact number depends on your hardware and on your file system implementation.  Too many levels will actually slow Postfix down.
  • 6. 限界を知りましょう  On a faster LAN, sending a 1-bit query takes as long as sending a 1000 bit query.  Faster LANs don't make bits go faster. They make bits travel more closely together, so that more bits arrive per unit time.  Still, the bits don't go faster than the speed of light.
  • 7. 打つ前に考えましょう  Next time, please engage the brain before hitting the keyboard.
  • 9. Postfix-users ML can split? Expert, beginner, … とすると質問が分散して、下 手すると bounce する
  • 10. Postfix users group JP( 仮称 )  「仮称」はとれるのか? – とくになくてもいいんじゃないか – Ad-hoc
  • 11. Undocumented  すべての可能性について考えるのは難しい
  • 12. Postfix を入れたときの問題点  ふつうに使うぶんには問題ない?  他と組み合わせたときの方法があまり知られて いない – Amavis とか、、、、 – そういうのはMLに投げましょう。