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Q&A GENMAB
8. AUGUST 2011
MED CEO Jan van de Winkel


    Transcript Live Q and A Genmab CEO Jan van de Winkel, 8th of Aug. 2011


    akademikeren        First of all, I would like to say welcome to Jan Van de Winkel, its an
                        honour to have you here. Are you online Jan?
    Jan Van de Winkel   Yes, both David and I are sitting here, ready for questions!
    akademikeren        Thats great. We have a lot of questions lined up for you guys. The
                        theme of today talks are your Q2 report, but there will
                        Certainly be some question about the DLBCL data from friday also.
                        But first of all can you walk us through the highlights of This
                        quarter?
    Jan Van de Winkel   Thanks, we had a successful R&D day at the start of the year and we
                        have made excellent progress with partnered
                        Programmes....
                        Arzerra sales went up 48% over H1...and
                        the drug is now available in 21 countries. GSK presented v good sc
                        ofatumumab data in RA at Eular in May and ...
                        we finalised recruitment in important front line CLL Phase III study
                        almost 6 months ahead of schedule....and
                        Roche started second large phase II study with RG1512 in Q", and we
                        expanded the Seattle Genetics collaboration and
                        Added a new product to pipeline HuMax-CD74-ADC. Lastly...
                        we have continued our strong focus on cost control. New question?
    akademikeren        I will open the session up now. Because we have a lot now already
    Bauerz              Q regarding the DLBCL data in comparison to the CORAL study; you
                        reach 61% vs. 51% but (1) can we expect the pts to be comparable to
                        this subgroup ( refractory vs. relapsed >12month) and (2) do you
                        now feel more confident with the
                        ORCHARRD study outcome ? Thanks
    Solsen              Hello Mr Winkel
                        Did the new data in DLBCL give you a better confidence to the
                        outcome of the phase 3 (OCHARRD).
                        I wonder if 380 patients will give a significant result with the CORAL
                        study in mind, where 51% ORR was recorded in the subgroup with
                        “prior exposure to rituximab” patients ? And second what could the
                        market peak (revenue) be in DLBCL ?
    Jan Van de Winkel   We are very pleased with the Phase II data, as it reconfirms the
                        activity of ofatumumab with chemo in difficult to treat cancer
                        Patients. It also strongly confirms that our ORCHARRD phase III head
                        to head study is the right path forward.
    akademikeren        I just included a question on the sames lines above
    Jan Van de Winkel   Yes, the new data strongly supports the Phase III design and
                        powering. DLBCL is about a third of all NHL so it is a very
                        Sizeable market.
    akademikeren        and should we calculate 1)about 20% as refrac 2)4000 mg dosis
                        treatment?
Jan Van de Winkel   We would probably estimate around 40% as refractory or relapsed.
                    The effective dose is 1000mg per infusion.
troldmanden         Are you pursuing larger and broader R&D deals where a partner get
                    access to your technology? Something like what
                    Neurosearch have done successful with the partner paying 30-40
                    FTE and where Neurosearch can get 300+ mill euro in milestones
                    per molecule + double-digit royalties. Deals like that often also
                    gives a niche amount upfront.
                    Or do you prefer to make smaller and more narrow R&D deals?
Jan Van de Winkel   We aspire to do both smaller and larger deals. We have a deal with
                    Lundbeck for example, where we create antibodies
                    against three CNS targets..and…
                    we will in the future do deals for both technologies and products.
                    For example, our novel DuoBody technology platform is an
                    Area of active partnering activities for us right now.
troldmanden         When do you see the next possible approval for Arzerra and in which
                    indication?
Solsen              Dear Mr Winkel
                    When can we expect ofatumumab in sc version on the market in
                    MS/RA ?
                    And do you fear competition from rituximab generics in 2015 ?
Jan Van de Winkel   We most excited about CLL frontline, where we finished recruitment
                    in the Phase III study almost 6 months ahead of
                    Schedule. We still anticipate data to become available in early 2013
                    which could form the basis for an sBLA in that year.
Jan Van de Winkel   Re the sc question: GSK intends to start recruiting patients in a
                    Phase IIb MS study in the second half of this year.
                    Depending on the data this could roll into Phase III studies. The
                    timing would be impacted by the size and extent of the
                    Studies.
                    Re rituximab generics. We hope our head to head studies will show
                    we have a superior product and our ofatumumab
                    Patents extend beyond 2023.
Solsen              Could Genmab be interested in making a license deal with
                    Daratumumab when phase I/II are made public –
                    I would expect it could secure the cash position until arzerra sales
                    can bring Genmab byond alone
Jan Van de Winkel   Daratumumab is a very potent therapeutic candidate and a potential
                    first in class for a very sizeable market.
                    The antibody therefore ticks all the boxes for big pharma to be
                    interested - we would be pleased to discuss a potential
                    Partnership based on data generated in early clinical studies.
troldmanden         You cannot tell us the amount. But would it be possible to tell which
                    Arzerra event could trigger the next potential milestones?

Jan Van de Winkel   There may be a small milestone to filing in Japan but the larger
                    milestones will be related to filing and approval in FL.
RTH                 are you still looking for a partner for zalutumumab? eg. in
                    conjunction with a sale of your fabric facility in the USA?
HSK                 as the (deduction) incentive for someone else to purchase such a
                    production facility
                    time seems to be
                     running out....
Jan Van de Winkel   We are open to finding a partner for zalutumumab if the opportunity
                    arises. We would be open to a combination deal with the
                    Manufacturing facility if it came up.
                    We are happy to stay answering questions for another 10 minutes
akademikeren        These questions is in regards to the minnesota facility
Jan Van de Winkel   We are still firmly focused on selling the MN facility.
Bauerz              Q regarding zalutumumab: Are you still in talks with potential
                    partners ? and secondly, do you think the readout from eg the
                    dahanca study could add interest from partners, or is it more a
                    question of market potential vs the investment needed?
                    Thanks
Jan Van de Winkel   We are still open to partner zalutumumab if it is the right thing for
                    us to do. The DAHANCA study could create interest when
                    the data becomes available - but a partner would still need to invest
                    a sizeable amount in further development in order to
                    create a sizeable market for this product.
Bauerz              Finance question: David, could put some flavor on your development
                    spending for 2012 – should we expect this to be in line
                    With 2011 outlook minus the DKK80m from zalu? Thanks
Jan Van de Winkel   We would expect our cash spend to be similar in 2012 compared to
                    2011. We will save on Zalutumumab but this will be
                    Offset by new Daratumumab trials.
akademikeren        We need to round up here, unfortunately with a lot of questions
                    here. The final one from Collersteen
collersteen         Hi. I assume you have seen the recent Dendreon news and their
                    missed sales forecast. One issue seems to have been
                    reimbursements via the Q-code. Are you seeing the same issues
                    with the j-code or is there another reason as to why there
                    Does not seem to be any j-code effect in the US-arzerra sales?
                    Thanks.
Jan Van de Winkel   We continue to receive positive feedback from GSK on interest for
                    Arzerra. We are confident that sales will increase now
                    reimbursement has been put into place in the US. We also look
                    forward to future growth as more clinical data becomes
                    available, there are currently 61 studies on clinicaltrials.gov of which
                    48 are active or recruiting.
akademikeren        Ok. I would like to thank Genmab and our users for this Q&A
                    session. Thank you for coming to ProInvestor, Jan. And thanks
                    for all the good answers and questions
akademikeren        It will be exciting to follow the company through the uptake of
                    Arzerra and your efforts to bring new drugs to the market
Jan Van de Winkel   Thanks for the very good questions. We look forward to an exciting
                    2H 2011 and to be able to answer your questions again
                    In the future.
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  • 1. Q&A GENMAB 8. AUGUST 2011 MED CEO Jan van de Winkel Transcript Live Q and A Genmab CEO Jan van de Winkel, 8th of Aug. 2011 akademikeren First of all, I would like to say welcome to Jan Van de Winkel, its an honour to have you here. Are you online Jan? Jan Van de Winkel Yes, both David and I are sitting here, ready for questions! akademikeren Thats great. We have a lot of questions lined up for you guys. The theme of today talks are your Q2 report, but there will Certainly be some question about the DLBCL data from friday also. But first of all can you walk us through the highlights of This quarter? Jan Van de Winkel Thanks, we had a successful R&D day at the start of the year and we have made excellent progress with partnered Programmes.... Arzerra sales went up 48% over H1...and the drug is now available in 21 countries. GSK presented v good sc ofatumumab data in RA at Eular in May and ... we finalised recruitment in important front line CLL Phase III study almost 6 months ahead of schedule....and Roche started second large phase II study with RG1512 in Q", and we expanded the Seattle Genetics collaboration and Added a new product to pipeline HuMax-CD74-ADC. Lastly... we have continued our strong focus on cost control. New question? akademikeren I will open the session up now. Because we have a lot now already Bauerz Q regarding the DLBCL data in comparison to the CORAL study; you reach 61% vs. 51% but (1) can we expect the pts to be comparable to this subgroup ( refractory vs. relapsed >12month) and (2) do you now feel more confident with the ORCHARRD study outcome ? Thanks Solsen Hello Mr Winkel Did the new data in DLBCL give you a better confidence to the outcome of the phase 3 (OCHARRD). I wonder if 380 patients will give a significant result with the CORAL study in mind, where 51% ORR was recorded in the subgroup with “prior exposure to rituximab” patients ? And second what could the market peak (revenue) be in DLBCL ? Jan Van de Winkel We are very pleased with the Phase II data, as it reconfirms the activity of ofatumumab with chemo in difficult to treat cancer Patients. It also strongly confirms that our ORCHARRD phase III head to head study is the right path forward. akademikeren I just included a question on the sames lines above Jan Van de Winkel Yes, the new data strongly supports the Phase III design and powering. DLBCL is about a third of all NHL so it is a very Sizeable market. akademikeren and should we calculate 1)about 20% as refrac 2)4000 mg dosis treatment?
  • 2. Jan Van de Winkel We would probably estimate around 40% as refractory or relapsed. The effective dose is 1000mg per infusion. troldmanden Are you pursuing larger and broader R&D deals where a partner get access to your technology? Something like what Neurosearch have done successful with the partner paying 30-40 FTE and where Neurosearch can get 300+ mill euro in milestones per molecule + double-digit royalties. Deals like that often also gives a niche amount upfront. Or do you prefer to make smaller and more narrow R&D deals? Jan Van de Winkel We aspire to do both smaller and larger deals. We have a deal with Lundbeck for example, where we create antibodies against three CNS targets..and… we will in the future do deals for both technologies and products. For example, our novel DuoBody technology platform is an Area of active partnering activities for us right now. troldmanden When do you see the next possible approval for Arzerra and in which indication? Solsen Dear Mr Winkel When can we expect ofatumumab in sc version on the market in MS/RA ? And do you fear competition from rituximab generics in 2015 ? Jan Van de Winkel We most excited about CLL frontline, where we finished recruitment in the Phase III study almost 6 months ahead of Schedule. We still anticipate data to become available in early 2013 which could form the basis for an sBLA in that year. Jan Van de Winkel Re the sc question: GSK intends to start recruiting patients in a Phase IIb MS study in the second half of this year. Depending on the data this could roll into Phase III studies. The timing would be impacted by the size and extent of the Studies. Re rituximab generics. We hope our head to head studies will show we have a superior product and our ofatumumab Patents extend beyond 2023. Solsen Could Genmab be interested in making a license deal with Daratumumab when phase I/II are made public – I would expect it could secure the cash position until arzerra sales can bring Genmab byond alone Jan Van de Winkel Daratumumab is a very potent therapeutic candidate and a potential first in class for a very sizeable market. The antibody therefore ticks all the boxes for big pharma to be interested - we would be pleased to discuss a potential Partnership based on data generated in early clinical studies. troldmanden You cannot tell us the amount. But would it be possible to tell which Arzerra event could trigger the next potential milestones? Jan Van de Winkel There may be a small milestone to filing in Japan but the larger milestones will be related to filing and approval in FL. RTH are you still looking for a partner for zalutumumab? eg. in conjunction with a sale of your fabric facility in the USA? HSK as the (deduction) incentive for someone else to purchase such a production facility time seems to be running out....
  • 3. Jan Van de Winkel We are open to finding a partner for zalutumumab if the opportunity arises. We would be open to a combination deal with the Manufacturing facility if it came up. We are happy to stay answering questions for another 10 minutes akademikeren These questions is in regards to the minnesota facility Jan Van de Winkel We are still firmly focused on selling the MN facility. Bauerz Q regarding zalutumumab: Are you still in talks with potential partners ? and secondly, do you think the readout from eg the dahanca study could add interest from partners, or is it more a question of market potential vs the investment needed? Thanks Jan Van de Winkel We are still open to partner zalutumumab if it is the right thing for us to do. The DAHANCA study could create interest when the data becomes available - but a partner would still need to invest a sizeable amount in further development in order to create a sizeable market for this product. Bauerz Finance question: David, could put some flavor on your development spending for 2012 – should we expect this to be in line With 2011 outlook minus the DKK80m from zalu? Thanks Jan Van de Winkel We would expect our cash spend to be similar in 2012 compared to 2011. We will save on Zalutumumab but this will be Offset by new Daratumumab trials. akademikeren We need to round up here, unfortunately with a lot of questions here. The final one from Collersteen collersteen Hi. I assume you have seen the recent Dendreon news and their missed sales forecast. One issue seems to have been reimbursements via the Q-code. Are you seeing the same issues with the j-code or is there another reason as to why there Does not seem to be any j-code effect in the US-arzerra sales? Thanks. Jan Van de Winkel We continue to receive positive feedback from GSK on interest for Arzerra. We are confident that sales will increase now reimbursement has been put into place in the US. We also look forward to future growth as more clinical data becomes available, there are currently 61 studies on clinicaltrials.gov of which 48 are active or recruiting. akademikeren Ok. I would like to thank Genmab and our users for this Q&A session. Thank you for coming to ProInvestor, Jan. And thanks for all the good answers and questions akademikeren It will be exciting to follow the company through the uptake of Arzerra and your efforts to bring new drugs to the market Jan Van de Winkel Thanks for the very good questions. We look forward to an exciting 2H 2011 and to be able to answer your questions again In the future.
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