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The 5 Sells Every
Profitable Agency
Masters
Based on interviews and performance data from
1000s of agencies, I’ve discovered how, what
and when the most profitable agencies sell.
Peter Caputa IV (@pc4media) - CEO, Databox
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
The 5 Sells Every Profitable Agency Masters
1. Dodge
2. Dip
3. Duck
4. Dive
5. Dodge
2
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
• On an 18 year quest to figure out
the profitable marketing agency
formula.
Hi, I’m Pete Caputa…
Peter Caputa IV
CEO, Databox
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“76 percent of marketers think marketing has
changed more in the past 2 years than the past 50.”
- Adobe Digital Distress Survey, 2013
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“The agency world has changed more in the last
20 years than it has in the preceding 50.”
-Me
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Client
Expectations
Martech &
Adtech
Competitor
Explosion
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
How Martech/Adtech Treats Agencies
When you are with them vs When you’re not watching.
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Agency Competition
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“When I grow up, I want to run a low-margin,
low-growth business with lots of competition.”
- No one
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
What are the most profitable agencies doing differently?
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
The 5 Sells...
Initial Sale
Low-cost, low-risk, low-effort, quick time to value
Retainer Sale
Recurring monthly retainer, patience for mid-term results
Upsell
Sell more of the same services
Cross-Sell
Sell services to other functions
Resell
Resell other company’s products for a commission
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
The 5 Sells
Initial Sale
Low-cost, low-commitment, quick time to value
Upsell
Sell more of the same services
Cross-Sell
Sell services to other functions
Retainer Sale
Recurring monthly revenue, patience for mid-term benefit
Resell
Resell other company’s products for a commission
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“To build a cash flow-positive and profitable agency, you need retainer
clients. Retainers are best for your clients too because you can't deliver
growth overnight without really understanding their business, product,
customers, etc.”
- Paul Roetzer, Founder PR 20/20
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Do NOT do Fixed-Scope Retainers
STOP
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Do Have Packages
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Do Sell Value
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
The 5 Sells
Initial Sale
Low-cost, low-effort, quick time to value
Cross-Sell
Sell services to other functions
Retainer Sale
Recurring monthly revenue, patience for mid-term benefit
Upsell
Sell more of the same services
Resell
Resell other company’s products for a commission
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“20% of our revenue in ‘17 came from retainer clients buying more from us.
There are 3 things we had to do get that right: the right people following
well-defined processes & hitting performance the targets we said we would
hit.”
- Ryan Malone, Founder Smart Bug Media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Train and Enable Your People
Naturally:
“Our account strategists are responsible for upselling. They are the ones
interpreting the data, seeing what can be improved further or issues that can be
addressed. They are fully empowered to write SOWs.”
Not automatically:
“We have agency goals and every individual has a plan on how they will contribute
to that goal. One goal is our monthly revenue and upselling is one way they can
help the company get there. So, our account strategists try to spot opportunities
and progress them.”
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Have a Process for Upselling Too
“Every two weeks, we will review progress to your goals and discuss what we
should start, stop and continue.”
“The retainer does not automatically get you to your goals. But, we’ll deliver a
positive ROI and we will quickly hone in on how much you will need to invest
(internal resources, us, technology, your salespeople) to get you there.”
“Part of our value is that we will bring you new ideas and new perspective that
will help you improve your marketing, sales and financial performance. Each
month, we’ll take your ideas and ours and make suggestions for additional
work.”
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“Deliver the Performance You Said You Would”
In a survey of Databox agency partners, the majority set quarterly goals with clients, but only check progress
once per month. The agencies who grew the fastest, though, check goals weekly or twice-monthly to adapt their
plan. 100% agreed that their ability to hit goals positively impacts the financial success of their agency.
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Communicate Performance in Real-Time Too
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
The 5 Sells
Initial Sell
Low-cost, low-effort, quick time to value
Retainer Sale
Recurring monthly revenue, patience for mid-term benefit
Upsell
Sell more of the same services
Cross-sell
Sell services to other functions
Resell
Resell other company’s products for a commission
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“Cross-selling has allowed us to double our average retainer size and
improve our client retention by making us valuable to a larger part of our
clients’ organizations.”
- Eric Pratt, Founder, Revenue River
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“In all of our larger clients, we are working directly with at least two teams:
marketing, sales, human resources, operations and/or finance. We usually
start with sales or marketing, then we often expand to help HR with talent
recruitment, then to operations because of our technology and data
expertise and finally to finance with financial planning and goal setting.”
- Eric Pratt, Founder, Revenue River
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
The 5 Sells
Initial Sell
Low-cost, low-effort, quick time to value
Retainer Sale
Recurring monthly revenue, patience for mid-term benefit
Upsell
How to set and visualize goals
Cross-sell
Sell services to other functions
Resell
Resell other company’s products for a commission
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
2011: ~150 2017: 5,000
How many of those did you implement for each client?
Average marketer is using 12+ Tools
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“Reseling tools like Databox, SeventhSense & Wistia [on top of HubSpot],
have really helped to fuel our [40% YOY] Growth.“
- Elyse Flynn Meyer, Co-founder, PRISM Global Marketing
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Build and Market your Martech Expertise
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
How to Be Your Client’s Tech Guide
1. Start with a platform (HubSpot, Shopify, Salesforce) that has a thriving
3rd-party software ecosystem.
2. Always be scouting out new applications that compliment your and
your clients’ platforms.
3. Test them out on yourself. Many martech software startups are
desperate for your help and will cut you great deals, especially if you
are early.
4. Market and sell your new capabilities.
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“When we made the decision to narrow our focus to providing marketing
services to a few niche engineering markets, our profit margins grew more
than 2x and our clients received an even better ROI. Our sales cycle has
decreased by half, and there is little to no pricing pressure. ”
- Wendy Covey, Co-founder, Trew Marketing
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“Gross profit margins more than doubled by focusing 100% on the one
thing we do best: building sites on the HubSpot CMS.”
- Joseph Jerome, Founder, Brand Builder Solutions
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Overwhelmed?
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Join the Databox Partner Program for Free
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Free Software
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
80-90% Margin for Partners
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
“We've saved so much time
centralizing and automating our
multi-platform reporting, allowing
us to spend more time analyzing
results instead of pulling them.”
Marc Herschberger
Director of Marketing Revenue River
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Free Training
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Build Your Own Stack
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Free Co-Marketing
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
Early Access to Other Agency-Friendly Partner Programs
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
A Truly Free Partnership
Sign up here: https://databox.com/signup?plan=agency
#TCS2018 | @pc4media
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The 5 Sells Every Profitable Agency Masters

  • 1. The 5 Sells Every Profitable Agency Masters Based on interviews and performance data from 1000s of agencies, I’ve discovered how, what and when the most profitable agencies sell. Peter Caputa IV (@pc4media) - CEO, Databox
  • 2. #TCS2018 | @pc4media The 5 Sells Every Profitable Agency Masters 1. Dodge 2. Dip 3. Duck 4. Dive 5. Dodge 2
  • 3. #TCS2018 | @pc4media • On an 18 year quest to figure out the profitable marketing agency formula. Hi, I’m Pete Caputa… Peter Caputa IV CEO, Databox
  • 4. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “76 percent of marketers think marketing has changed more in the past 2 years than the past 50.” - Adobe Digital Distress Survey, 2013
  • 5. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “The agency world has changed more in the last 20 years than it has in the preceding 50.” -Me
  • 6. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Client Expectations Martech & Adtech Competitor Explosion
  • 8. #TCS2018 | @pc4media How Martech/Adtech Treats Agencies When you are with them vs When you’re not watching.
  • 10. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “When I grow up, I want to run a low-margin, low-growth business with lots of competition.” - No one
  • 11. #TCS2018 | @pc4media What are the most profitable agencies doing differently?
  • 12. #TCS2018 | @pc4media The 5 Sells... Initial Sale Low-cost, low-risk, low-effort, quick time to value Retainer Sale Recurring monthly retainer, patience for mid-term results Upsell Sell more of the same services Cross-Sell Sell services to other functions Resell Resell other company’s products for a commission
  • 20. #TCS2018 | @pc4media The 5 Sells Initial Sale Low-cost, low-commitment, quick time to value Upsell Sell more of the same services Cross-Sell Sell services to other functions Retainer Sale Recurring monthly revenue, patience for mid-term benefit Resell Resell other company’s products for a commission
  • 21. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “To build a cash flow-positive and profitable agency, you need retainer clients. Retainers are best for your clients too because you can't deliver growth overnight without really understanding their business, product, customers, etc.” - Paul Roetzer, Founder PR 20/20
  • 22. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Do NOT do Fixed-Scope Retainers STOP
  • 23. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Do Have Packages
  • 25. #TCS2018 | @pc4media The 5 Sells Initial Sale Low-cost, low-effort, quick time to value Cross-Sell Sell services to other functions Retainer Sale Recurring monthly revenue, patience for mid-term benefit Upsell Sell more of the same services Resell Resell other company’s products for a commission
  • 26. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “20% of our revenue in ‘17 came from retainer clients buying more from us. There are 3 things we had to do get that right: the right people following well-defined processes & hitting performance the targets we said we would hit.” - Ryan Malone, Founder Smart Bug Media
  • 27. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Train and Enable Your People Naturally: “Our account strategists are responsible for upselling. They are the ones interpreting the data, seeing what can be improved further or issues that can be addressed. They are fully empowered to write SOWs.” Not automatically: “We have agency goals and every individual has a plan on how they will contribute to that goal. One goal is our monthly revenue and upselling is one way they can help the company get there. So, our account strategists try to spot opportunities and progress them.”
  • 29. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Have a Process for Upselling Too “Every two weeks, we will review progress to your goals and discuss what we should start, stop and continue.” “The retainer does not automatically get you to your goals. But, we’ll deliver a positive ROI and we will quickly hone in on how much you will need to invest (internal resources, us, technology, your salespeople) to get you there.” “Part of our value is that we will bring you new ideas and new perspective that will help you improve your marketing, sales and financial performance. Each month, we’ll take your ideas and ours and make suggestions for additional work.”
  • 30. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “Deliver the Performance You Said You Would” In a survey of Databox agency partners, the majority set quarterly goals with clients, but only check progress once per month. The agencies who grew the fastest, though, check goals weekly or twice-monthly to adapt their plan. 100% agreed that their ability to hit goals positively impacts the financial success of their agency.
  • 31. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Communicate Performance in Real-Time Too
  • 32. #TCS2018 | @pc4media The 5 Sells Initial Sell Low-cost, low-effort, quick time to value Retainer Sale Recurring monthly revenue, patience for mid-term benefit Upsell Sell more of the same services Cross-sell Sell services to other functions Resell Resell other company’s products for a commission
  • 33. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “Cross-selling has allowed us to double our average retainer size and improve our client retention by making us valuable to a larger part of our clients’ organizations.” - Eric Pratt, Founder, Revenue River
  • 35. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “In all of our larger clients, we are working directly with at least two teams: marketing, sales, human resources, operations and/or finance. We usually start with sales or marketing, then we often expand to help HR with talent recruitment, then to operations because of our technology and data expertise and finally to finance with financial planning and goal setting.” - Eric Pratt, Founder, Revenue River
  • 36. #TCS2018 | @pc4media The 5 Sells Initial Sell Low-cost, low-effort, quick time to value Retainer Sale Recurring monthly revenue, patience for mid-term benefit Upsell How to set and visualize goals Cross-sell Sell services to other functions Resell Resell other company’s products for a commission
  • 37. #TCS2018 | @pc4media 2011: ~150 2017: 5,000 How many of those did you implement for each client? Average marketer is using 12+ Tools
  • 38. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “Reseling tools like Databox, SeventhSense & Wistia [on top of HubSpot], have really helped to fuel our [40% YOY] Growth.“ - Elyse Flynn Meyer, Co-founder, PRISM Global Marketing
  • 39. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Build and Market your Martech Expertise
  • 40. #TCS2018 | @pc4media How to Be Your Client’s Tech Guide 1. Start with a platform (HubSpot, Shopify, Salesforce) that has a thriving 3rd-party software ecosystem. 2. Always be scouting out new applications that compliment your and your clients’ platforms. 3. Test them out on yourself. Many martech software startups are desperate for your help and will cut you great deals, especially if you are early. 4. Market and sell your new capabilities.
  • 43. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “When we made the decision to narrow our focus to providing marketing services to a few niche engineering markets, our profit margins grew more than 2x and our clients received an even better ROI. Our sales cycle has decreased by half, and there is little to no pricing pressure. ” - Wendy Covey, Co-founder, Trew Marketing
  • 45. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “Gross profit margins more than doubled by focusing 100% on the one thing we do best: building sites on the HubSpot CMS.” - Joseph Jerome, Founder, Brand Builder Solutions
  • 47. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Join the Databox Partner Program for Free
  • 49. #TCS2018 | @pc4media 80-90% Margin for Partners
  • 50. #TCS2018 | @pc4media “We've saved so much time centralizing and automating our multi-platform reporting, allowing us to spend more time analyzing results instead of pulling them.” Marc Herschberger Director of Marketing Revenue River
  • 52. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Build Your Own Stack
  • 54. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Early Access to Other Agency-Friendly Partner Programs
  • 55. #TCS2018 | @pc4media A Truly Free Partnership Sign up here: https://databox.com/signup?plan=agency
  • 56. #TCS2018 | @pc4media Contact Get started at databox.com/signup Need help? help@databox.com