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MTL: The Professional Development Programme
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EIGHTs, THE NEED TO
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Strong, dominant, over-powering
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Eights, the Need
to be Strong
Introduction: If you look at the Enneagram model, you’ll find at point 8 the type
that needs to be strong. This type is in the Instinctive group, those who relate to
the world through their gut and instinct. From this type come some of the most
dynamic and also some of the most selfish people. This type shows us how to
master their environment even if it is to get what they want while depriving others.
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Eights love to stand up for the downtrodden
1. EIGHTS ARE
REBELS
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Eights are the Rebels and natural fighters of the
Enneagram. Their world is one of basic black-and-
white responses: friend or foe, for you or against
you. Conflict, testing and fighting make up their
world. In fighting they come to life, in domination
they feel strong. In many organisations, these
types will be natural leaders, devoted to
protecting those on their side, while seeing off
anyone regarded as an enemy. They are loud,
fearless and confident, a boon for those they
lead, but a problem for anyone against them.
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2. A SUMMARY
OF EIGHTS
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The enfant terrible
Group: instinctive or "relating" group
Label: rebels, fighters
Roles: the top dog, the tyrant, despot, dictator;
the gladiator, the protector, the wheeler-dealer,
the spoilt princess, the enfant terrible, the bad
boy or girl
Drive: the need to be strong
Routes to growth: compassion
Characteristics: controlling; dominant; in charge;
persuasive; argumentative; convincing; socially
confident; shocking; cut to the chase; loud;
flamboyant; wilful.
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Eights like to shock established mores
3. HOW TO
RECOGNISE
AN EIGHT
Eights like to be top dog: they challenge others
and unmask anything they see as unjust. Eights
are devoted to those on their side, relentlessly
hostile to those against them. They are easily
bored and love to test themselves and others.
The edge of danger is their natural home. Many
of their normal behaviours are intended to shock.
Eights have an unfailing instinct for knowing
when others are behaving tyrannically, even
though they often do not see it in themselves.
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4. THE EIGHT
AT WORK
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Eights come to life in conflict
With an Eight in the team, there is always the
potential for conflict. This might arise if someone
is unfairly treated. The Eight will immediately leap
to their defence. Arguing is a power struggle
which they are determined to win. An Eight tends
to react excessively when little things go wrong in
the team such as a faulty photocopier or a
colleague who has missed an appointment. Big
errors are however much more appealing as they
offer the chance for an out-and-out
confrontation.
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ath_02.jpg
David and Goliath by Michelangelo in the Sistine Chapel
5. THE EIGHT-
TYPE
ORGANISATION
An Eight organisation has the following
characteristics: a. strong leadership; b. the style is
loud, brash, up-front; c. a lot of bullying,
shouting, table-thumping; d. management by
decree; e. react to situations rather than
proactively set goals; f. work is great when there
is tension, arguing, fighting; not so great when it
runs smoothly; g. "we work to overcome, not to
acquire"; h. entrepreneurial: push problems and
people aside to get what they want; i. decisions
are easily and quickly made with no going back.
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6.
NOTEWORTHY
EIGHTS
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Statue ofJohn Lennon outside the Cavern Club
Some noteworthy Eights include: Joan of Arc;
Ernest Hemingway; Winston Churchill; actor, Jack
Nicholson; Don Vito Corleone (of the film "The
Godfather"); John Lennon, Beatle; tennis player,
John McEnroe.
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Jack Nicholson as the Joker in “Batman” (1989)
7. "I LIKE TO
DE-
STABILISE"
Film star, Jack Nicholson, is an Eight and has
sometimes been described as a man who inspires
danger. This is how he talks about his
relationships: "I suppose that my devilish persona
on and off screen has been some kind of strategy.
It was developed to manipulate. The way I am is
about getting your own way. But I think things are
better when they go my way. I'm not trying to
control others, but I like taking them out of the
control of others. I like to de-stabilise."
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This has been a Slide Topic from Manage Train Learn
AFinal
Word
To discover the Eights on your team, ask yourself: "Who always likes to get their own way?"; "Who
is fearless?" and "Who tends to fly by the seat of their pants?”

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Eights, the Need to be Strong

  • 1. 1 | MTL: The Professional Development Programme Eights, the Need to be Strong EIGHTs, THE NEED TO BE STRONG Strong, dominant, over-powering MTL: The Professional Development Programme
  • 2. 2 | MTL: The Professional Development Programme Eights, the Need to be Strong Attribution: All images are from sources where a Creative Commons license exists for commercial use. All icons are on subscription from thenounproject. All clipart is from free sources. The MTL Professional Development Programme is copyright of Manage Train Learn. Eights, the Need to be Strong Introduction: If you look at the Enneagram model, you’ll find at point 8 the type that needs to be strong. This type is in the Instinctive group, those who relate to the world through their gut and instinct. From this type come some of the most dynamic and also some of the most selfish people. This type shows us how to master their environment even if it is to get what they want while depriving others.
  • 3. 3 | MTL: The Professional Development Programme Eights, the Need to be Strong Eights love to stand up for the downtrodden 1. EIGHTS ARE REBELS https://pixabay.com/en/defiance-liberation-woman-female-1948016/ Eights are the Rebels and natural fighters of the Enneagram. Their world is one of basic black-and- white responses: friend or foe, for you or against you. Conflict, testing and fighting make up their world. In fighting they come to life, in domination they feel strong. In many organisations, these types will be natural leaders, devoted to protecting those on their side, while seeing off anyone regarded as an enemy. They are loud, fearless and confident, a boon for those they lead, but a problem for anyone against them.
  • 4. 4 | MTL: The Professional Development Programme Eights, the Need to be Strong 2. A SUMMARY OF EIGHTS https://www.flickr.com/photos/muitosabao/4555672436/ The enfant terrible Group: instinctive or "relating" group Label: rebels, fighters Roles: the top dog, the tyrant, despot, dictator; the gladiator, the protector, the wheeler-dealer, the spoilt princess, the enfant terrible, the bad boy or girl Drive: the need to be strong Routes to growth: compassion Characteristics: controlling; dominant; in charge; persuasive; argumentative; convincing; socially confident; shocking; cut to the chase; loud; flamboyant; wilful.
  • 5. 5 | MTL: The Professional Development Programme Eights, the Need to be Strong https://www.flickr.com/photos/lordkhan/181561342/ Eights like to shock established mores 3. HOW TO RECOGNISE AN EIGHT Eights like to be top dog: they challenge others and unmask anything they see as unjust. Eights are devoted to those on their side, relentlessly hostile to those against them. They are easily bored and love to test themselves and others. The edge of danger is their natural home. Many of their normal behaviours are intended to shock. Eights have an unfailing instinct for knowing when others are behaving tyrannically, even though they often do not see it in themselves.
  • 6. 6 | MTL: The Professional Development Programme Eights, the Need to be Strong 4. THE EIGHT AT WORK https://pixabay.com/en/arm-wrestling-indian-wrestling-567950/ Eights come to life in conflict With an Eight in the team, there is always the potential for conflict. This might arise if someone is unfairly treated. The Eight will immediately leap to their defence. Arguing is a power struggle which they are determined to win. An Eight tends to react excessively when little things go wrong in the team such as a faulty photocopier or a colleague who has missed an appointment. Big errors are however much more appealing as they offer the chance for an out-and-out confrontation.
  • 7. 7 | MTL: The Professional Development Programme Eights, the Need to be Strong https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Michelangelo,_David_and_Goli ath_02.jpg David and Goliath by Michelangelo in the Sistine Chapel 5. THE EIGHT- TYPE ORGANISATION An Eight organisation has the following characteristics: a. strong leadership; b. the style is loud, brash, up-front; c. a lot of bullying, shouting, table-thumping; d. management by decree; e. react to situations rather than proactively set goals; f. work is great when there is tension, arguing, fighting; not so great when it runs smoothly; g. "we work to overcome, not to acquire"; h. entrepreneurial: push problems and people aside to get what they want; i. decisions are easily and quickly made with no going back.
  • 8. 8 | MTL: The Professional Development Programme Eights, the Need to be Strong 6. NOTEWORTHY EIGHTS https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lennon_Statue,_Liverpool.jpg Statue ofJohn Lennon outside the Cavern Club Some noteworthy Eights include: Joan of Arc; Ernest Hemingway; Winston Churchill; actor, Jack Nicholson; Don Vito Corleone (of the film "The Godfather"); John Lennon, Beatle; tennis player, John McEnroe.
  • 9. 9 | MTL: The Professional Development Programme Eights, the Need to be Strong https://www.flickr.com/photos/atomduja/30958111362/ Jack Nicholson as the Joker in “Batman” (1989) 7. "I LIKE TO DE- STABILISE" Film star, Jack Nicholson, is an Eight and has sometimes been described as a man who inspires danger. This is how he talks about his relationships: "I suppose that my devilish persona on and off screen has been some kind of strategy. It was developed to manipulate. The way I am is about getting your own way. But I think things are better when they go my way. I'm not trying to control others, but I like taking them out of the control of others. I like to de-stabilise."
  • 10. 10 | MTL: The Professional Development Programme Eights, the Need to be Strong This has been a Slide Topic from Manage Train Learn AFinal Word To discover the Eights on your team, ask yourself: "Who always likes to get their own way?"; "Who is fearless?" and "Who tends to fly by the seat of their pants?”