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MEETING INFORMATION
TUESDAY, MAY 26, 2015
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2014 – 2015
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INSTALLATION OF OFFICERS
AND BOARD OF GOVERNORS
TUESDAY, MAY 26, 2014
3333 Bristol Street, Santa Ana, CA 92626
Please join us again for the always exciting and important Orange
Empire ASHRAE Chapter installation meeting. We have important work
to accomplish and will enjoy a new location, a great dinner, and some
excellent company. Parking is free with validation.
Please be sure to invite a spouse, friend, or client as this will be a
relaxing, enjoyable, and affordable evening.
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Also, please keep a lookout for
our 2015 Orange Empire Golf
Tournament flyer. We plan on
having another exciting and
successful tournament.
Be sure to join us for the last
meeting of the season to install
our new officers, board members,
and welcome in Jeff Conrad as
our new Chapter President.
Best Regards,
John Sawyer, Orange
Empire ASHRAE
President
JOHN’S BLOG
As the 2014–2015 season
comes to an end, I want to thank
everyone in the chapter for another
successful year. We are looking
forward to our summer
meetings as we plan next
season’s venues.
With the great support we
receive from our local
engineers, vendors, and
contractors, we also anticipate
a successful and informative
2015–2016 season and look
forward to seeing you then.
2. MEETING MINUTES
Date: February 24, 2015
Time: 5:00 PM – 5:46 PM
Place: Holiday Inn, Santa Ana
MEETING ATTENDEES
Jeff Conrad (JC)
Eric Decker (ED)
Michael Garabedian (MG)
Robert Hagstrom (RH)
Jeff Hanzel (JH)
Craig Hofferber (CH)
Mike Lynaugh (ML)
Steve Rawski (SR)
John Sawyer (JS)
Grant Schaffer (GS)
Mat Waller (MW)
CALL TO ORDER
1. Meeting called to order at
5:00 PM
2. Quorum established
3. Announcements
4. Next Meeting Date:
March 24, 2015
DISCUSSION ITEMS
1. Jerry Hartford (Region X
CTTC RVC) visited for
February Meeting.
2. November Minutes to be
reviewed and voted on
electronically.
a. March 19th – Minutes
from November submitted
b. Fix “next meeting” to
Feb. 24th
i. ED motioned for
approval, JC seconded
– voted and minutes
approved.
3. Facilities EXPO
a. ML still looking for volun-
teers to man the booth.
i. Potential PAOE points
4. March Dinner to be held at El
Adobe Restaurant in San
Juan Capistrano.
a. Joint meeting with San
Diego Chapter, hosted by
Orange Empire.
b. March 10th – ED
motioned to approve
charging $35 for members
($45 late) and $40 for
non-members ($50 late).
JC seconded, JS ayed and
motion approved .
5. Chapter List
a. ED motioned to eliminate
hard roster and research
how to do it electronically
– JS seconded and motion
passed.
b. JH, ED to investigate
improvements to website
in lieu of distributing a CD.
i. Potential PAOE points.
c. Need to update list and
order badges. JH and
Leroy Pope.
i. Add sign in sheet at next
meeting for new badge
requests.
6. Communications Chair
a. Need a new website
person to help distribute
meeting invites.
b. Need website helper to
keep site updated
properly – Chris will train.
i. Craig Hofferber volun-
teered to help next year.
7. Programs
a. Meeting dates:
i. April 28th – DL Chris
McDonald “Indoor Air
Quality and Mold: Legal
Issues and Liability
Concerns for Engineers
and Related Industry
Professional.”
1. Aaron Deutsch tech
session on
humidification.
ii. May 26th – President’s
installation dinner – Jeff
Conrad to confirm
location.
2. March 18th – JC
motioned to approve
Magginao’s for May
Installation Dinner. JS
seconded and motion
approved.
8. Historian
a. “How we used to do
rosters” – CDs of lists
once edited by someone.
b. Discussed putting roster
on line with password
protection.
c. Discussed how to charge
for advertisements – to
Treasurer with some online
service.
9. Chapter Badges
a. Remind members to return
badges to box.
b. Let Chapter know if
person needs new badge.
OPEN ITEMS
1. Refer to items above.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 5:46 PM -
Moved by JS and seconded by
JC; motion carried
– End of Minutes –
Derrick Wyka
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3. “Water Treatment”
Program- Integration
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by David Yancosky
Forwarding Note
I preface this article by stating
that I am not a central plant,
facility, designer. Since 1991 I
have been operating central
plants/facilities. In 2012 I was
hired by an MEP design firm.
The information in my articles is
based upon my experiences
operating central plants/facilities
and is not intended to critique
established design business-
processes or products. My
objective is to impart insight from
an end user who is experienced
with the HVAC product, as well as
with the sometimes intangible
business costs associated with
operating and maintaining the
HVAC process.
The business model
associated with my current
employment is consultation. The
offering is (site-by-site) formulated
to best support those end users
who may not have organic
resources, or histories, to
maximize the performance of
modern HVAC designs. In effect,
I also serve as a conduit between
designers of advanced systems
and those laypersons who may
not have the experience, and time,
to ensure that advanced systems
are operated and maintained
within specification.
The central plants that I
operated, for the most part, sold
well-metered chilled water, hot
water, steam as a commodity. As
an operator of commercial central
plants, I monitored efficiencies,
but I studied P&L statements first.
The nature of my articles are
decidedly from the perspective of
a commercially motivated operator
who is keen upon bridging the
gap between the design product
and the practical business needs
of the end user, post
commissioning. It is my personal
belief that this gap is a natural
business reality, but time spent to
at least define the nature of the
gap, will pay dividends and
promote the design and
construction of systems that
better fit the end users.
High Impact Requires Design
Advocated to end users of
water cooled chillers is that there
are two high-impact items that
directly relate to cost effective
operation of central plants: well-
designed water treatment
programming and well-designed
chiller service agreements. In
both cases, I provide vendor-
management assistance to the
end user in developing “proof of
work” and other contractual
obligations. (And, yes, I empha-
size the word “design”. Water
treatment programming and chiller
service agreements need to be
intelligently built and vetted).
In this article an overview of
water treatment concerns is
covered. For the most part, the
concerns discussed relate to
Southern California water (which
typically has high concentrations
of calcium). Other locales will
have other concerns. This and
other water treatment articles are
not intended to provide water
treatment specifications, but to
promote productive relationships
between central plant design
teams and professional water
treatment providers that are
geared towards creating holistic,
site-specific, water treatment
programming designs.
Water Treatment Part 1:
An Overview
Water treatment is crucial in
ensuring that the requirements of
water cooled chiller owners are
met. Proper condensing water
treatment minimizes the potential
for fouling of chiller condensers.
Fouled condensers initially result
in poor heat transfer, poor effici-
ency, and will eventually degrade
to a point where the chiller will fail
on high discharge pressure.
Chilled water treatment, e.g.
the evaporator and cooling coils,
is important as well, but this
article is more focused on
traditional condensing water
issues. To be detailed in future
articles are specific issues that
relate to chilled water chemical
treatment and newer concerns
that relate to thermal energy
storage (TES) systems (which are
viewed as semi-open systems).
Addressed by contemporary
water treatment programming
strategies is water conservation.
Though seemingly not weighty in
comparison to energy conserva-
(See WATER TREATMENT page 4)
4. WATER TREATMENT
(continued from page 3)
tion, resource sustainability is
important to many end users.
Those same end users that are
not experienced with central plant
businesses, and most likely do not
understand that a typical chiller
plant will consume a relatively
large amount of water in
production of HVAC. There is
opportunity for the design
community to promote
sustainability through thoughtful,
total, water management
programming. (To be discussed in
future articles).
A sidebar note is in the area of
the chemical specification itself.
By working with the water
treatment provider-who will be
able to provide the designer with
information relating to the
chemicals to be used-certain
items that relate to the system
specification will be availed. For
example, I have come upon valve
seats that have failed, possibly
due to chemical incompatibility.
A Design to Support Life
Cycle Concerns Associated
with Water Treatment
Projects that I have surveyed
have typically included
requirements for cleaning,
flushing, pre-treatment of piping
systems as part of the project. As
an operator, I would like to see
that the design of a water
treatment program be extended
further into the life cycle, into the
operational profile. Analogous to
the design of automation systems
and sequences of operation that
control pumps, chillers, fans, I
encourage drafting of a sequence
of operations for water treatment
systems. Just as energy
management systems are
designed to ensure that rotating
equipment is managed in an
efficient and repeatable manner
for the life of the plant, the system
that is required to maintain water
systems in specification must also
be designed to be robust,
consistent, reliable, and effective
for the life of the plant.
Typical sequence of operation
for water treatment program
would then entail, for example:
1. Notes on city water quality
2. Relationship of cycles of
concentration, including
conductivity setpoint
3. pH band and how pH is
maintained
4. Relationship between water
make-up, blow-down, and
chemical injections
5. Chemical pump timers
6. System alarms, notification
and related functions
7. Trending capabilities
The Realities Associated with
a Typical Failed Water
Treatment Program
I came upon a post-
commissioning central plant
where the water treatment
program appeared to be off-line.
A chemical injection system and
accompanying barrels and pumps
were in place, but empty and
inactive.
Cooling towers were fouled
such that half of the CT unit, one
of two basin sumps, was not
available, e.g. the condensing
water pumps were effectively
receiving volume from one cell
basin instead of two cell basins.
It appeared that the basin
strainers were fouled with calcium
solids.
The incapacitated cooling
tower was feeding partially scaled
chiller condensers.
I nursed the plant along until
an operational water treatment
program could be put in place.
When the first opportunity arose I
had the cooling tower suction “Y”
strainers serviced. They were
completely fouled. With cleaned
suction strainers I was able to
restore “better” condensing water
flow to the chillers. This had a
huge improvement on the
condenser approach, (even
before I had the chance to clean
the chiller condenser).
While integrating the water
treatment program, it was noted
that the cooling tower blow-down
control valve and tailpiece were
installed on the condensing water
pump suction header (instead of
discharge header). Therefore,
whenever the conductivity control
valve opened, the
chiller/condensing water pump
closest to the chemical
management system would most
likely draw air into the condensing
water system causing other
operational issues.
Eventually the cooling tower
was fully cleaned, and the chiller
condensers were cleaned, as part
of winter maintenance. As should
be expected, performance was
dramatically improved,
immediately evidenced by
improved chiller condenser
approach temperature and
corollary better chiller efficiency.
(Savings at chillers alone:
conservatively projected to be
50K/year, not including demand
charge impacts).
A Commissioning Plan to
Support Life Cycle Concerns
Associated with Water
Treatment
An operator’s perspective is
that water treatment programming
commissioning plan will ideally
include, among many other points:
(See WATER TREATMENT page 5)
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WATER TREATMENT
(continued from page 4)
1. Verifying the pumping and
piping system associated
with chemical management
is operational and meeting
a design specification
2. Verifying the conformance
of the actual chemical
controller to an appropriate
design specification; (the
sequence of operation
verified)
3. Verify trending capabilities
4. Test and verify alarms
5. Practical analysis of
corrosion coupon
placement
6. Verifying the placement,
performance, accuracy of
chemical injection probes
7. Verify the placement,
performance, accuracy of
corrosivity metering
8. Verify the placement,
performance, accuracy of
conductivity meters
9. Verify the placement,
performance, accuracy of
blow-down system
10. TES system water
treatment needs to be fully
addressed
11. Water metering systems
need to be tested and
verified; their integration
with the chemical manage-
ment system verified
In order to propagate
maintenance of water treatment
parameters for the life of a central
plant, a holistic treatment program
needs to be supported from
design to commissioning up to
and, most importantly, ensuring
that end user management
understands the associated
impacts. — END —
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CRC ALTERNATE
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COMMITTEES AND CHAIRPERSONS
Membership Promotion. . . . . . . . . . . Jeff Hanzel
Resource Promotion . . . . . Michael Garabedian
Refrigeration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Grant Schaffer
Chapter Technology Transfer . . . . . Jeff Conrad
Student Activities . . . . . . . . . . . . Bryson Borzini
Attendance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Erica Kerr
Chapter Historian . . . . . . . . . . . Craig Hofferber
Newsletter Editor . . . . . . . . . . Robert Hagstrom
Programs. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Eric Decker
Table Top Displays . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jeff Conrad
Communications . . . . . . . . . Christopher Tindall
Golf Tournament. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dan Davitt
GGAC. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Parish Krautkramer
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CHAPTER OFFICERS
President. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . John Sawyer
President-Elect . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jeff Conrad
Vice President . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Eric Decker
Treasurer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kenneth Golovko
Secretary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Derrick Wyka
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Mike Lynaugh
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MEETING SUMMARY
TUESDAY,
MAY 26, 2015
OFFICER AND BOARD
INSTALLATION
SEPTEMBER 23, 2014
Dinner: Structural Essentials in Essential
Structures for (not-so) Non-
Structural Systems
Theme: Membership Night
Place: Holiday Inn
OCTOBER 28, 2014
Technical: BAS Critical Role Within LEED:
Learn How a Building Automation
System Supports or Contributes to
LEED Points. GBCI Approval for 1
General CE Hour
Dinner: Hydronic Loops: Why Performance
Does Not Always Match Design
Theme: Student Night
Place: Holiday Inn
NOVEMBER 18, 2014
Dinner: Title 24 and Owner Interpretation
Theme: SMACNA Night
Place: Holliday Inn
DECEMBER 2, 2014
Dinner: Building Owners Presentation and
Panel
Theme: Joint Meeting with So. California and
Tri-County
Place: Quiet Canyon Resort
JANUARY 27, 2015
Dinner: The Refrigeration and Science of
Brewing
Theme: Refrigeration and Membership Night
Place: JT Schmid’s, Anaheim
FEBRUARY 24, 2015
Dinner: HVAC Noise and Vibration Control
Best Practices
Theme: Research and Past Presidents Night
Place: Holiday Inn
MARCH 24, 2015
Dinner: Condensing Boiler Efficiency
Theme: Joint Meeting with San Diego
Place: El Adobe, San Juan Capitstrano
APRIL 28, 2015
Technical: Tech Talk about Psychometrics and
its Impact on Potential Mold Growth
Dinner: Indoor Air Quality and Mold: Legal
Issues and Liability Concerns for
Engineers and Related Industry
Professionals
Theme: Student Night
Place: Holiday Inn
MAY 26, 2015
Theme: Officer and Board Installation
Place: Maggiano’s, Costa Mesa
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