1. The big lies and systematic manipulation
life of Kateryna Boguslavska,
A Ukrainian women
Hello Neven,
You can just reply to this email. I have many emails. There is no need to use the contact formular. I saw the
Pltivice lakes in 2015. They are amazing. Yes you forwarded messages chat screenshots. But now you call her
from other numbers? Why is that? Calm down. You are in deep shit obviously. Desperate. Forwarding is legal but
stalking is not. It is highly prosecuted here and actions will be taken EU wise. Phone calls are logged too.
Everything is logged. It’s insane. So what did you communicate to Mile? Seriously, I am in all this network. You
pretent to be a nice guy. that’s ok. At the same time you manipulate with lies? So what again about this Moldavian
wine? Where is the bill? What about having a baby in March? Just reply and attach proofs.
Kind regards,
Am 02.06.2017 um 10:48 schrieb:
Dear Renko,
I would answer you but I dont know your email. give me your email or something and i can
send you screenshots as attachments.. If you want come over to croatia over weekend and Ill
show you all our internet chats photos etc. We can go to Plitvice lakes if you like and you can
stay in my house,welcome :). You can even see Katja clothes here and talk to my mama and
my friends who will confirm to you she was here in march 2017 last time. Im not stalking
noone,i simply forwarded messages chat screenshots I got from from Katja to you.
Forwarding something is completely legal. I have nothing to do with her alleged hack of her
FB account. You are IT person as I understand. Write to FB and ask for retrieving it.I think
you can see who loged in and it will be clear it was not me. Katja told long time ago she made
Katja Heidi FB profile with some email that has katja heidi in a name and not trough her
regullar emails...you can ask her about it. No Im not manipulating anyone trust me.
Best regards
Neven
I guess this is your pictures too that she sent me. just as some of the Moldovan are mine she sent you probably
other also. and this is old old.
But its not only pictures. It was messages such as " I cant wait to see you I want sex with you now..etc etc"..while
she was with you...
Probably she was sending you similar stuff while with me in lying bed and playing with mobile (that I also bought
old one not galaxy 7)
This is whats devastating , such a betrayal. How can someone do this? And for so long without feeling at least
shame and guilt. Lies straight to face,smiling and blinking blue eyes (now without pacific blue lenses that she
used to wear)
This manipulation that lasted for so long was planned and well thought by her.
Renko
2. And you tell me you dont believe me she wants only Swiss papers. If she was capable of manipulating both of us
for so long why dont you think using you for papers would be also hard for her?
If someone told me this one month ago that she is capable of doing all this I wouldnt also believe him. She is a
very good actor and telling a lie is not a problem for her.
anyhow think about it. I really think she should not be allowed to hurt and manipulate more people like this just to
achieve her ambition and that iss Swiss papers. (university she has already thank to me).
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Neven
this is how she explained to me on 25 October 2014 why she was with you. she was afraid to be cheated on. what
a joke. And I can swear on my son and my mother that I have never ever even kissed anyone except Katja since
2011...
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Neven
3. I guess this is your pictures too that she sent me. just as some of the Moldovan are mine she sent you probably
other also. and this is old old.
But its not only pictures. It was messages such as " I cant wait to see you I want sex with you now..etc etc"..while
she was with you...
Probably she was sending you similar stuff while with me in lying bed and playing with mobile (that I also bought
old one not galaxy 7)
This is whats devastating , such a betrayal. How can someone do this? And for so long without feeling at least
shame and guilt. Lies straight to face,smiling and blinking blue eyes (now without pacific blue lenses that she
used to wear)
This manipulation that lasted for so long was planned and well thought by her.
And you tell me you dont believe me she wants only Swiss papers. If she was capable of manipulating both of us
for so long why dont you think using you for papers would be also hard for her?
If someone told me this one month ago that she is capable of doing all this I wouldnt also believe him. She is a
very good actor and telling a lie is not a problem for her.
Anyhow thats how I see it now. Natali sees it same. She is Ukrainian girl, she understands other Ukrainian girl
and her motives much better then we do .
anyhow think about it. I really think she should not be allowed to hurt and manipulate more people like this just to
achieve her ambition and that iss Swiss papers. (university she has already thank to me).
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Neven
I told you its only her interest that is important for her.Not you or me.
4. Rene its not only about unprotectted sex. Its about emotional manipulation and lies over very long time to
both of us. This is devastating for me. Someone you fully trusted as a partner and love is capable to lie and
make stories for so long straight in to eyes.
You two are abouit to live together registered partnership or she already moved in i dont know. And she
didnt tell you never about me?
2014 she never told you about me.
If i didnt tell you she would never. To hide 3 year fresh emotional relationship from partner you live with?
This is the worse thing. Trust lost.
How can you trust her for anything after this?
I understand if it was short affair for week or two with me but this lasted for over 3 years. Families
involved, friends.
To have double secret life 3 years this takes planning and big thinking not be discoverd. Sex was always
there always when we saw eachother and always unprotected.
So you saw her in Zurich or she is in London? What else dis she say? What will happen now with her?
I told you Natali seems like honest girl.
We should both start forgeting Katja. What she did to both of us is chatastophic. Pure treason of trust.
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Neven
I told you its only her interest that is important for her.Not you or me.
Rene its not only about unprotectted sex. Its about emotional manipulation and lies over very long time to both of
us. This is devastating for me. Someone you fully trusted as a partner and love is capable to lie and make stories
for so long straight in to eyes.
You two are abouit to live together registered partnership or she already moved in i dont know. And she didnt tell
you never about me?
2014 she never told you about me.
If i didnt tell you she would never. To hide 3 year fresh emotional relationship from partner you live with?
This is the worse thing. Trust lost.
How can you trust her for anything after this?
I understand if it was short affair for week or two with me but this lasted for over 3 years. Families involved,
friends.
To have double secret life 3 years this takes planning and big thinking not be discoverd. Sex was always there
always when we saw eachother and always unprotected.
So you saw her in Zurich or she is in London? What else dis she say? What will happen now with her?
I told you Natali seems like honest girl.
We should both start forgeting Katja. What she did to both of us is chatastophic. Pure treason of trust.
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Neven
you would pop up like this occasionally in our conversation in 2015...
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Neven
5. I was even informed about how you sister is first pregnant and then gave birth... name of your nephew all...its
incredible what she was doing and for how long. And I fully trusted her.
yes she was always sending me this. non stop. every day. Its all in my messenger. feel free to come and look.
and you didnt know anything. and this went on for so long. It was not short infatuation with one or another. It was
long term planned cheating and using both of us.
Hope you believe me now.
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Neven
i guess this is from last summer...i told you non stop reporting pics messages.always trough 3 years. Not a single
day in 3 years passed that we were not in contact...
6.
7.
8. even photo of african visa she sent me when was done. Im telling it was non stop messaging and usually when
she would walk from work we would speak because I was home kiev is 2 hrs ahead from London...
9. here i suppose this is Edinburgh. lots of photos of houses i received back then
million of photos from Spain where she was with Nastja and kids before she came to croatia in March. I met
Nastja her new husband and Kids in Kiev i think last november. They came to flat all of them....
London new year. what she sent me. She said she was at theater watching some musical with Lubitsa from
Chatham House if I remember correctly.I couldnt come because my son came to Kiev and he has university
break. and i dont even remember what she said why she cant come. Have to dig trough tons of messages..
10. some selfies from Africa even photo of hotel room she sent me from africa...
11. here i even found photo of wine we were shopping in Moldova. I bought few bottles i dont remember anymore
what she took with her and then to Africa.
See photo from the same restaurant she is wearing my glasses. I think she still wears my old glasses sometimes
to look more intellectual.
12.
13. i took some of that photos and I also receive some of the same photos those with feet in snow and that girl photo.
She sent me this i thing just the morning before I arrived to Kishinew.
We were in both those restaurants she sent you photos of. One is near the hotel and other in city center some
traditional moldavan.
We went tto Kristina mother house. Kristina was not in Moldova. I didnt see her
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Neven
Every time she came to Kiev she was with me. I lived in her apartment. She was during all this time
chatting with me every single day. Reporting about everything she was doing. From morning to night. Before she
would go to work she would be sending me selfies trying different chlotes and asking me what to wear for
conferrences or meetings in Chatam House. This was all ongoing normally this year. Messages calls with I love
you cant wait to see you want sex with you....etc still normal in April this year... until i suspected something is
going on in Africa. I started to ask ask ask and after insisting she said she wants to be alone and finish this alone
and that we can speak in September.
I completelly didnt understand this because it was absurd and i didnt know about Basel. She was saying she is
applying for jobs having some interview in london wiith some moldavan guy. She even met with some Kenyan guy
she met on way back from africa who said he is some anti money laudering but turned out he just wanted dinner
with Ukrainian girl..Gagik also wanted to meet her but she said he never called back...so i didnt understand why
she is threwing away her only safey net if all fails and that was me with good job and in her flat...it made no sense
all...
So after again asking asking she said she contacted you only in now in March after long time and you agreed for
partnership papers so she can do this Basel job never mentioning even she was with you in africa. Googling you
showed that.
she said its not for love but about job and then she wrote she was thinking we could be together in september
when she settles.I said thats not moral and then all this lies lies started to emerge.
I was convinced that you knew about me since 2014. She even said now in April that you know about me.
Now we all know probably not all but much more about her lies cheats double life and hiding...If i didnt tell her
parents about you she would hide that also for long. Im sorry to say Rene but back in 2014 she spoke terrible
about you to all of us parents included. That you are greedy that you dont give her food.that you visit
prostitutes you are boring have nothing in common bad sex etc etc..
Everyone was relifed when she finnaly left and started with Buba and after drama with transfering things you were
not mentioned almost anymore,except some silly messages like one from indian restaurant or i would never
achieve this if I stayed with Rene.
That was reality she created for me and parents...
15.
16. She said she was with Cristina in the beginning. And she met with Cristians ex-students first evening.
do you still have these selfies from hiking trips? Just curious...
Yes she did. But not with you.sent me selfies. I dont even remeber who did she say she went with. I think some
girl from ETH.
After summer we had sex many times she came to kyiv i came to london moldova croatia.who did she say she
was with in moldova to you?
it’s a big issue. we had unprotected sex last summer, too. now I have to go for a check.
did she ever mention about hiking trips in Switzerland last summer?
And also as i said we all have problem with unprotected sex. We should all check ourselfs. I never used condoms
with her from the start in june 2014 until last time in march 2017.. but also i slept only with her. Never touched
anyone else.
17. Before her,last sex i had with other person in 2011. I had medical check for UN job in 2012 and i was ok.
Dont know about her and you but we are all in same crap with this now.
Deciding between 2 one can do for a month maybe 2.
This was calculative premeditative manipulation for her interest that lasted for sooo long.
She knew what she was doing and she kept us both not because emotions or love but just out of interest.
She knew in 2014 that she cant finish ETH without my help. She couldnt even write proper email back then in
english. Then came papers essays...Thats why she needed me. Also this Chatham house i was her
recomendation. She calculated with you and knew she will need you when all is finished to stay in swiss. So she
kept you on ice and activated you back when it was clear im not applying for swiss jobs.she was constantly
pushing me to apply...
Her only goal is to get permanent papers in swiss. After that im sure there will be some more crap and movement
from her.
If i were you I wouldnt trust anything she tells you. Imagine what a good liar she is. Both of us didnt suspect
nothing for years.Years of lies not days or weeks.
I told you, we had super intensive relationship since 2014 and you found out just 2 weeks ago about us when I
told you. Imagine...She would never tell you. She went completelly crazy when i said i wrote to you first time. She
was shouting at me on phone in London street that passers by asked her is all ok. She kept telling me i should kill
my self and that she wants to kill me and to jump out of window immediately. I hate you she repeated 30 times
shouting..Ask her.Noone ever screamed at me like that.
This was her biggest fear you and I being in contact.
Anyhow.i can tell you all how it went chronologicaly from the begining if you want.
Now i believe she has no feelings for anyone me or you.just interest.
her mama told her once she achieved all only trough men.first her flat she got from her ex husband Boguslavski
who she even met i think last year in Swiss.said he was crazy but now i dont trust anything she stated
anymore.she is always in contact with him and always called him when in kiev. I stood next to her.She always
said he is talking about his love problems with other girls...
Anyhow be carefull. Dont know how and what will you do with her now and with this poor and sad natali will do but
you will have hard work with all.
Let me know if she contiues to lie.she probably will.its a pattern with this compulsive liars. Defending their lies with
other lies contra accusing and acting as victims. Zhertva. She knows that word well. Means victim. She often
accused her sister of doing it.
Anyhow.
Good luck
Neven
I have acces to my messages only. Nothing more.i know of some of her emails. Ekateryna boguslavskaya
kateryna boguslavska@gmail and aparently this Fb she made with some katja heidi mail. NO idea. I wouldnt lie
too. I hope you see this now.
If she goes to psyholgist someone needs to look that she doesnt lie to him too and cover lies with lies.
I gave her 3 years of my life.i nearly killed my self.truth. i was desparate and alone in kiev moving out of her
apartment where i lived 15 months. It all also came as a shock. When i found out she tricked me last summer with
this visa after i invested in boat and was so happy to go to it she said no passport and went with you imagine how
i felt.
hope you undersdand me now. It was such a treason. I didnt know nothing about you too until recent. Thought
you were forgoten since 2014. After she broke up face to face with you..
Please dont forget natalie.she is weak and alone here more then Katja and she is honest and good a d not a liar.
Let me know if you need to know anything else from my perspective.i told you just truth and what she told me. I
told you already.im not bad guy im just fucked up by discovery that my life (and yours) was one big lie for last 3
years. This whole shit lasts now almost a month now.i feel on edge.was in hospital for blood pressure 170.110
and chest pain first because of it. Got an tidepressives there and sedatives and pressure pills. I was tottaly
18. destroyed.I didnt threat with suicide it was cry for help and i jist wanted to dissaper from knowing all the shit that
was uncovered. Sorry.
Anyhow i still have problems sleeping and depression but here i have my friend and my mom. Im glad its all clear
now with you. I just wanted everyone to know what person she can be.and please dont forget natali.she is
weakest in this whole story. I asked to come here.i dont need or want new girlfriend now at all. its not for that i just
feel sorry for her and thought she must also be going trough hell alone.
Best
Neven
Help her please with work.You should know maths...
I just hope there is some goodness under that facade of lies she created.
I cant fight anymore for anything a d a yone ... im dead...
No stories no lies no manipulations... juat truth
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Neven
I just thought there is so many unwanted chidren...not only asian... its love you give them not genes. Doesnt
matter. Its another silly excuse to ego
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Neven
I cant be sad anymore and cry all the time. Im 47years old and nearly fucked up my work and family because of
this Katja shit.
I gave her all my energy last 3 years. All of it really from painting her new flat a d carrying stuff to writing all her
ETH papers and asking frends to help and arranging accomodation with Djukic paying for vacations jewlery and
mobules and computers dealing with her old flat and her parents sister and people renting her other flat.
All I got in return is shit and accusations.I have one life. I cant anymore do this im too weak seriously.. i saw a lot
of shit in my life. dead people smelly bodies. I was at that malasian pla e crash sbe called me then all the
time.sorry. i just cant...
tell her hurma is doing great...
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Neven
Yes.Edinborogh. scotland.lots of pictures came. she said she was with chatham house colleagues organised...
There was a lot of lies.im tired. I cant be her pshyatrist anymore.i was thrown away like a dog. I need to care
about my self now. Im very much fucked up by all this.
I cant take of her shit anymore.energy depleted in me...
I cant cry anymore...
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Neven
I did not lie or manipulate at all. Told you so all the time.
Anyhow 3 years of my life given to Katja Swiss ambition.Karma is a bitch...
19. Now its your turn to satify her ambitions and obssetions.. Its a hard task trust me.
Im free from all this crap..😃
I just wanted to tell truth after all the lies.
Im freeeeee uraaa .
i have money, good looks and whole summer free. Dont have to be anyones ambition doll...i just asked poor
Natali to come over to Croatia to my sea house. Its sad that she is left in shitty Bila Tserkva alone..
Good luck to both of you.
Over and out to Kateryna Boguslavska-Zemlyanska...
Cheers
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Neven
I think you should take Katja to some psychologist.She told me her mama was hospitalized once for
some problems of similar sort.
https://www.borderlinepersonalitytreatment.com/bpd-treatment-compulsive-lying.html
I have been reading a bit, trying to understand all...
Compulsive lying, or mythomania, can be common in people with Borderline Personality
Disorder. This is because people with BPD are often very afraid of abandonment and
disapproval, and will do whatever it takes to make sure neither of those things happens.
Some forms of lying prevalent in people with BPD include the following:
o Faking a medical condition in order to reduce responsibility
o Carrying on close personal or romantic relationships strictly for personal gain
o Blaming tardiness on children, a faulty car, or other fictitious circumstances
o Contributing imaginary information to a friendly conversation
o Avoiding embarrassment by giving incorrect but convenient answers to simple
questions (for example, telling someone you parked in the lot they told you about when in fact
you couldn’t find the lot or forgot about it)
anyhow im not longer in a role of "psychological Councillor" for her.I was for last 3 years... Its
your role now i suppose, "boyu se" or Im afraid was common sentence in our conversations. It
was stated only because of work, , applications for work and interviews, useful word to know in
rus_ukr language.. boyu se...боюсь...
Im sure you will need it. heard it so many times trough 3 years....
Good luck...
as I said in this text, I was fixing one of the ETH papers for hr after I came from work ( this was almost daily tasks
for me then) and was late to meet a colleague from donetsk ,and then she wrote from the nowhere that you sent
photo from indian restaurant. What could I say? nothing. what the fuck was he doing there? was all...
Just to put it in to perspective....
I was all concentrated back then at some ETH paper she was suppose to submit.
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Neven
20. I think I deserve at least half of her diploma of ETH. If I take in to consideration working hours I have put working
on her papers,tasks and exams. I was her collage friend, mentor and editor. (gave her all of my free time back
then )... and what did I get back? Shit and lies after 3 years. Karmic catastrophic...she knows the saying...
that message about indian restaurant was from 29 march 2015...dont know whats the reason she sent it.
Ok believe her then all.
No i didnt know about Italy i figured it out now of course you were there.she said her passport is in UK embassy
for visa 3 weeks and she cant come just 2 days before i went on leave. Then she said she went with Cristina and
Cristinas boyfriend to Italy. Even blamed me for not comming with her later...
Good luck with such compulsive liar Rene
Best
Neven
Dear Rene,
Katja said she met you first time on some bus trip. Katja is an opportunist and will always calculatively run
towards better opportunity. Now she doesn't need me anymore to do all the things I was doing for her, but she
needs you for papers. Thats why she decided leave me now and not before.
I think I sent you already what she wrote to me just 2 weeks ago "I thought we can still be together after I settled"
(screenshot attached) meaning, her probation ends in Basel Institute, she gets stable contract and she doesnt
need you anymore. This statement proofs she was already premeditating to leave you in September. I dont know
how you dont see this?
Katja once told me she had nothing interesting to talk to you. That you are obsessed with photography,forcing
her to wake up early because the light is best then and that you know computers.
Politics,news,music,art,cooking; themes that interest her she said you had almost no knowledge about and
nothing to talk about. She was even making fun once how you never heard of Degas. "Renko asked me when
he saw posters everywhere in Zurich about exhibition of Degas "
Anyhow its just a friendly advice from an experienced man. Im not telling you this in order to get Katja back
because I dont think after all this I would have stomach to do this,but to consider and have some empathy
towards Natali who is the biggest looser in this network of lies Katja created. When I spoke to Natali it was evident
she really truly loves you. She never said bad thing about you and said you are good guy and that Katja is using
you but you refuse to see this.
Anyhow its up to you.
And Natalia also said you and Katja claim I hacked Katja FB. What nonsense is this? I cant even hack my own
email when I forget password. How on earth could I hack her facebook from Ukraine and she is in London and
Swiss? I think you can see somewhere in program places from where someone was logged in. Trust me It wasnt
me and I think such accusation can be proven easily if you just write to facebook help desk.
21. Anyhow Good luck with Katja. Im glad we cleared some things and I hope you understand my side of coin now.
Also ask her what shall I do with her bicycle and her clothes she left in my houses? I just wanted to clear up stuff
and show what false reality she was creating for me and also for you over very very long period of time.
Regards
Neven
P.S.
And if you liked Plitvice you would love National Park Kornati. I have a small house near by there in Murter island
and a small boat. She has been there already and her friend Sveta too. Until recent me and Katja were planning
to go on the boat there this summer.
https://www.google.hr/search?q=kornati&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiIrMml7aDUAhVqB8AKH
Xo5B5YQ_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=590
And light there is great especially sunsets because its facing west towards open sea. Water is clear and
transparent almost as air and color blue has hundred variants there. Hiking on top of one of those cliffs is also
something. Im sure you would love it.
Im sorry but this article exactly explains what she was doing and why. Her case is because of low self esteem and
disguising failure.
I think its important to deal with it now for her long term mental health.
http://addiction.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Compulsive_Lying_Disorder
I dont know who made it. I guess you want me to say you. Yes its possible. and?
Im going to sleep. write if you want more. I hope you see now what was I trying to tell you..
Good Night
Neven
Can you imagine that my son who is 21 and his girlfriend came to Kyiv over new years and we were all in her
apartment and she made up some lie not to come. And now I know she was with you. She was texting me all the
time asking me how are kids and party. We were all at my big bosses party (he is swiss too, he knows her, she
was at his new years party in Kiev the previous year with me)
Im sure she told you that she is texting her friend Borja in Kiev or Sveta or parents..
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Neven
22. Thank you.
as I said i didnt lie about nothing. This is all what happened and how Katja presented it to me and I believed her
all and trusted her completely.
why did you say those things to Buba? when did I use bad words against you? I just wanted civilzed explanation
and discussion to all this from which I was deprived. Dont you think that for 3 years of efforts and support ( I was
even working daily when she renovated her flat in Garmatna, Even my son was painting walls there) deserve truth
and face to face discussion? I also contacted you too because I thought you should know the truth. So you were
also parallel with Katja and Natali? I was completely loyal. Never touched anyone. All my colleagues know
that. Im sorry I played super fair with Katja and got this,3 years of deception.
Best
Neven
Rene, i forwarded you Buba number, with her message from her email..and BTW Katja has Buba number she
could have given it to you no?
You told me that Katja recently even said I was never in Au. You know this is not truth.She continues to cover lies
with new lies.
Im sorry,I dont know about you, but It would be bothering for me to have a relationship with someone who
systematically for over a year was hiding serious relationship from me. You really believe she was hiding all just
not to hurt you? For over a year? Why she didnt break up with me back in February 2016? also not to hurt my
feelings? So she did this thinking that it will never be uncovered.
She had me living even in her apartment, meeting me etc for all this time. She didnt even tell her parents about
you since your last breakup in 2014 and you know she talks to them all the time. I told them about you. Her mama
didnt believe me that she is back together with you. She thought its some mistake, poor woman got upset. And
now you found out about all this this all from me. Otherwise you would never know probably. Would that be better
for you? Im glad that I found all this out because otherwise I would just keep asking myself what went wrong as
you did ask yourself back in 2014.(She even sent me this, have screenshot) She also forwarded me your
messages back then. Im sorry but is this good basis for future? Im sorry do you think such behavior is moral?
I would also fully understand if she told me about two of you a week or so after you got back together in 2016
February, but she was hiding it, continuing to meet with me,sleep with me, asking for help from me, telling me she
loved me, constantly planning future, children ,marriage etc etc and systematically lying for over a year as
well. She was sending selfies from Africa photos,reporting how she is travelling with some dutch girl. Why? she
probably did same to you while she was with me.
Trust me I was also terribly shocked when I heard about this because I also didnt suspect nothing.
I would have never started anything with Katja if I knew from the beginning about you. She told me some month
later after we started. I was thinking to tell you back then but she told me she did it. I told you and you saw it, I
even pushed her to do eye to eye break up with you despite all the bad things she was saying about you,I thought
this guy can not be that bad. She told same stuff to her parents and her Papa thanked me for "saving" her from
you. Dont you see the pattern here?
23. This poor Natali told me that you blindly believe all what Katja said. I felt so sorry for girl. She also said that its
blatant that she is manipulating you for papers. Anyhow believe it or not this is what it is. Buba thinks the same.
She wrote it in today mail that I forwarded to you.
Everyone knows, Buba,her parents,my friends, my mother and all the people who knew me and Katja that I was
super good to her and did everything for her during last 3 years and all are shocked how such a nice girl who
always smiles and is polite is capable of such long term premeditated systematic lying and cheating. Now
actually I understand her crying and sadness bursts that were often occurring out of nothing.She was explaining
it as PMS . It must have been hell to live with all this lies in her head, communicating with me when she was with
you and vice-versa always making stories. We are all human and this would be hard for anyone to do for so long
especially when emotionally involved.
Anyhow believe it or not. I do care for Katja for some irrational reason still and I think she needs psychological
help and counselling. Unfortunately trough reviling her lies it might be possible for her to stop doing this and not
to hurt more people like that in future.
Best regards
Neven
Here are some chats about you between Katja and me. At some point I was even scared for her because she
presented you as a bad person who is greedy and not giving her food...
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24. Here is proof were were trying for baby. This is not from 2017 but we did in that Hotel in Moldova. and as I said
we always had unprotected sex unfortunately what really scares me now. I trusted her completely.
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Sada sam probudila Mileta i pitala:
Ovako: ona je bila jednom ili 2 puta u AU,ne u posjeti nego da uzme jos stvari i papire.
Prvi puta je on cekao dolje pred kucom jel je rekla da ju jedan kolega dopeljao,drugi puta su
Bili u stanu i kako ona uvijek jede sa Miletom on je rekao neka taj onda dodje gore.On je onda
Jeo sa njima,Mile inace ne pita puno ali da i pita sta bi ona rekla,to mi je poznanik a ne istinu.
Da je i rekla istinu sta joj mi mozemo,on aima pravo biti sa kim hoce,kaj ne ???
Katja nema osjecaja niti za tebe niti za njega,ona gleda i racuna sa kojim od vas ili mozda ima jos
U rezervi ce bolje zivjeti.Bitno joj je da se ozeni (ukrajinise mentalitet) i normalno Rene ima bolju
poziciju,
Zbog izgleda sigurno ne !!!ali Svicarac zbog prezimena joj je bitno,ima dobar posao,ona je rekla
da ona tebe nece hraniti
Jel ako i dodjes u Svicarsku i nemas posla ona nece nikoga uzdrzavati,(to je ljubav sa njene
strane,cudna ali istinita),sada
Sam sigurna da je Rene vec prije htio nju ozeniti ona bi se bez pardona za njega udala,njoj
osjecaji nisu bitni,za nju je bitno
Da ima svicarsko prezime i da zivi tamo drugo joj nije vazno.Ona je nekoliko puta rekla da joj je
najvaznije da se ozeni sa
25. Svicarcem koji radi i dobro zaradjuje i da joj drugo ne treba,mi smo mislili da to ona govori iz sale
jer smo tada znali samo za tebe
A ne da ona dalje ide sa Reneom.Vjerujem da je ona sve 3 godine imala dalje susrete i kontakt
sa Reneom a tebe je drzala u
Rezervi zbog prevadjanja ,ljetnog ferija i novcane sigurnosti,kao onda kada joj je trebalo 15.000.
To ti je osoba za kojom ti patis,sada pogledaj realno i razmisli dali se isplati dalje za tako nekim
patiti i boriti se ???
Da je to meni neki tip napravio ja bi mu isti dan spakirala kofer i cao,to sta ona radi je tip kariere
zene koje gledaju samo svoje uspjehe
Nista drugo.
2NOs? What is that.I will not write to wenger and all papers she did not write byherself. Buba wrote to me.Mile
said some guy was waiting downstairs once and secccond time he said bring this guy up. Did she presented you
as boyfriend?
Buba is also convinced she is sith you for papers and swiss lastname.she just wrote that. Can forward it its in
croatian.
I will not write to wenger and viara will not if i dont approve. Did she tell youabout R exam and buying it from an
idndian guy for 300dollars?
It was not only 2 NOs at the end. She wrote you a letter on FB when she arrived in Zurich. Why you don’t mention
it? Facebook has the whole communication data… yes Viara helped her and they did corrections for her master
thesis. This is legal. But the content was produced by her. So why would you inform Wenger now? Makes no
sense.
I saw that with the permit. You think it’s true? Hell no. This way her only way to avoid that you will contact me
earlier.
viara is British diplomat,she is my friend. BTW I also have diplomatic status . Of course I told her about my
problems. I didnt even had to say it was obvious. She knew Katja and she suggested this. I told her not to. Im not
an asshole but Katja would never pass ETH without my and Viara help and thats the fact.
How many no s from Katja? 2 at the end when she realized I communicated with you. Rene everyone who knew
me and Katja is shocked when I told them how long lasting double life she was leading. You really think she never
told you about me to save your feelings? She even wrote to me she is with you for permit. I think you saw that.
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here screenshot that proofs that I insisted that Katja goes to you and breaks up with you face face to face. (what
she never did with me) She didnt want to leave Kiev at first and I pushed her although it was very very hard for
me back then even because I loved her but I though one should be fair. Its hard to send your girlfriend to her ex.
She said me that she told you about me in 2014 and I was at peace and didnt suspect nothing. When she moved
to Buba she said you would not return her stuff and diplomas and then there was that drama later but it was all
settled later. Rene no lies.Im telling you what she told me and what I believed in for last 3 years
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And Katja presented you as who? her Boyfriend? I dont want to keep any secrets. Im completely transparent. I
know Mile was renovating flat Katja told me. They have 2 more flats in Zurich and son Relja Ray in Miami. When
Katja left you she was worried you would find her there.
As I said instead of this come over. We can make fish BBQ have wine and talk. I can show you all chats and
emails. My friend Viara who edited for Katja her ETH Master Theses for is so angry how Katja treated me now
and especially when we found out that this cheating has been going for so long and said she will report this to her
mentor Wenger.
I also edited and rewrote almost every paper for her in ETH. Its all in my email...check this check that. For 2 years
I was working then going home and was constantly involved in her papers,Gagik tasks in English etc etc...
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i called her from skype not other numbers.what are you talking about calls? what bills of wine? you think I keep
bills from Moldova. Will send you our photos from wine cellars in Moldova if you want. We were with Kristina
mother and then later in her house where was another lady and a small white dog.
and how do you imagine a proof for making a baby? Bill? we tried many times. There is chat where she said
once i just got period im not pregnant.
Actually now Im worried and im planning to go and get tested for any venerial diseases because trough all this
years I had unprotected sex with Katja and didnt know she was seeing you for long time. I was completelly
monogame and loyal to her during this 3 years.
I didnt lie nothing. Im in daily communication with Mile wife Buba. She can confirm all. They never ever saw you
neither new of your existance until now. Feel free to ask them and tell me what they will say. Find Buba Djukic or
Dubravka Rudar on FB and ask.
As I said feel free to come here. we can talk men to men. will show you all the emails and chats. Yes I am nice
guy indeed.