This document discusses the history of conflict and peace in the Punjab region between India and Pakistan. It argues that communal harmony in Punjab was destroyed by Mughal kings hunting Sikhs for hundreds of years, and that Punjab was ultimately partitioned due to the obstinacy of Hindu leaders and British manipulation of boundaries. The document also discusses the role of the Pakistani military in hindering peace efforts like the Kartarpur initiative, and argues that both countries are dominated by hawks bearing scars from the 1947 partition.

1. kartarpur and india pakistan
peace
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 February 2019
 DOI:
 10.13140/RG.2.2.30175.51365
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2.  Indo Pak History
 Agha H Amin
1- while i do not agree that punjab was land of peace this is a brilliant article.
2- communal harmony in punjab was destroyed by mughal kings who hunted sikhs like they were
some animals and this continued for some 100 years from 1650s to 1750s-finally sikhs
defeated the mughals- in last phase punjab was partitioned due to obstinacy and stupidity of
punjabi hindus who as early as 1921-22 foolishly demanded that if punjabi muslims got their
due majority punjab must be partitioned
3- finally punjab became victim of british manipulation in drawing an uncertain and questionable
boundary line and witnessed worst communal riots in which half a ,million to one million people
were killed - more muslims were killed than non muslims-the riots were initiated by muslims
from rawalpindi as early as january 1947 –
4- punjab was also delivered worst political stab by muslim league at lucknow pact where mr
jinnah destroyed muslim majority from 54 % to 50 % ---bengali muslims were stabbed in the
back more cruelly at lucknow pact and their majority of 52 % reduced to 40 % as a result of
which bengali muslims remained politically unstable till 1947--5--- punjab was ham handedly
treated by both neru and jinnah who were non Punjabis
5- --5---- punjabi sikhs were further damaged wen pakistans military usurper zia incited
insurgency in indian punjab--- an insurgency that pakistan could not support with its
conventional army--- sikhs were severely damaged --- but they recovered
6- ---6--- kartarpur is a good attempt but there are many questions attached like pakistan armys
role is not neutral and there was too much of general bajwa in the event ---- while kartarpur is
a good initiative -- much more hard work is needed--- both india and pakistan are dominated
by hawks bearing scars of 1947

3. 7- ---7---- in pakistan the army and ISI is overwhelmingly punjabi while in india also punjabi sikhs
and hindus are in SIGNIFICANT number in the military , civil service and Intelligence services-
--- both are deeply distrustful of each other
Respected colleage Dr Akhtars analysis is brilliant and commendable - however i have added my
one cent as ex military officer of pakistan army .
In Pakistan things will always remain complicated as generals will destroy the peace process while
india also as a hawkish group that dominates decision making .
My 2013 article is also reproduced below and i think it takes a long view :--
Lastly 44 Indian para military were killed recently -Peace remains fragile and elusive. If Pakistani
military allows civilians to work peace can be achieved and my heart is wit Dr Akhtar. But who will
bell the cat .
Can India and Pakistan make Peace – Agha.H.Amin , Major (r)
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The recent sudden angelic desire on part of the Pakistani establishment to make peace with India
has nothing to do with any major shift in Pakistans foreign policy written in the Pakistani military
headquarters popularly known as the GHQ.
The Pakistani apparent shift is merely a tactical response to extreme confrontation with the US
over perceived US view that Pakistan is playing a double game in Afghanistan.
This is similar to Musharrafs flirtation with India from 2000 to 2007 which in reality was a gambit to
prevent a two front war with Afghanistan occupied by the USA and a hostile India in the east.
The real picture of true intentions of the Pakistani military will emerge when the US withdraws from
Afghanistan.
This will be the time when the Russians ,Iranians and Indians will have no choice but to support
the Northern Alliance against Pakistan sponsored Taliban who regard all Shias, Ismailis,Non
Pashtuns,moderate Pashtuns as infidels who deserve to be massacred.
The Pakistani politicians are a compromised manipulated lot who are under firm control of the
Pakistani military thanks to the politicians own massive financial corruption.They will do what the

4. Pakistani generals tell them whether it is the PPP, PML or any new party like Imran Khans Tehrik i
Insaaf.
Pakistan will remain the same state run by an army rather than a state with an army.The Pakistani
generals will control Pakistans politics and foreign policy and Pakistan India relations will remain a
mix of an uneasy and an unpredictable peace.
Pakistan will remain embroiled in an ever continuous civil unrest.Baloch will be gunned down by
the Pakistani military while Pakistans politicians will remain the puppets of the military that they
have been since 1977.
Terrorism will remain a tool of foreign policy while the Pakistani military runs the Pakistani state
under a facade of PPP or PML or Tehrik i Insaaf.
By that time Pakistani military will be hoping to achieve all its objectives–
1. An extremist dominated Afghanistan.
2. A Balochistan fully fragmented and crushed.
3. A Pakistani political party leading Pakistan fully subservient to the Pakistani military.
4. A renewed infiltration in Kashmir.
5. A brinkmans nuclear policy with India .
6. A greater Chinese vassal with far greater Chinese interests in Pakistan.
There is no doubt that Pakistan will be a semi autonomous Chinese province by 2030 or so.Its
relations with India will be run on two basis , Pakistani military retaining its nuisance value based
on the much trumped and misused Indian threat and secondly Pakistan as a Chinese pawn acting
as Chinas western bastion in West Asia.Pakistani Balochistan by 2030 would be a completely
Chinese run show while Pakistans military and corrupt politicians will control Pakistans corrupt par
excellence economy.
Manmohan Singh will remain dupes that they always were.The region will remain unstable
because instability is custom made to suit the Pakistani elite both military and civilian.
Indias budding middle class wants to make peace with the Pakistani establishment because they
want to have a good time.
Manmohan Singh is a cheap social climber with no strategic vision.This means that the common
man in both India and Pakistan will both come to grief.
Pashtuns and Baloch will remain pawns of Pakistani establishment with Baloch regarded as Red
Indians and Pashtuns regarded as good cannon fodder to be launched like fools in the name of
Islam.Pakistans economy will remain centred to serve the good of Pakistan elite and prosperity will
remain confined to the triangle Pindi Multan Lahore and Karachi-Hyderabad.
The Pakistani supreme court will remain an arm of the Pakistani elite who turns a blind eye when
any one challenges Pakistani military in the courts.
Pakistan shall remain a mirage which serves a 5 % elite and the region will remain unstable and a
hostage to nuclear brinkmanship.

5. Pakistans pensioners will die like stray dogs ! Pakistans youth will be gunned down by the corrupt
Pakistani police for money ! Pakistani intelligence will continue the kill and dump policy all over
Pakistan and specially in Balochistan !
This is not about Islam ! This is not about Pakistan ! This is all about a 5 or 10 % establishment
that has controlled Pakistan since 1948.
All that this elite wants is to preserve their unfair advantage ! These are the new Banias,the new
Muslim Banias of Pakistan !
In 1947 Muslims of Pakistan got rid of Hindu Banias but the idea of the Muslim elite was that the
Muslim masses need to be buggered not by the Hindu Banias but by Muslim Banias from
Gujerat,Chiniot,Khotian (later Saigal Abad) and the elite feudals who had joined the Muslim
League by the 1946 elections.
Third rate Pakistani lower middle class young men will continue to pass the CSS exam and join
Police,FBR and DMG to become billionaires with phenomenal corruption of all types with houses
in posh DHA Karachi or Lahore within ten years of passing the CSS exam !
Pakistan does not have hawks with aristocratic backgrounds like ZA Bhutto nor visionary generals
! It is run by carpetbaggers,robber industrial barons,arch intriguer feudals and generals who are
NCOs sons and are just simply ambitious !
This means that Pakistans political economy of exporting terrorism as a foreign policy tool,massive
corruption at home and the resultant ever growing reservoir of economically deprived youngsters
who will fill ranks of extremists and suicide bombers will continue.
We salute the age of West Asian strategic anarchy !Posted by Maj Gen P K Mallick, VSM(Retd) at
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6. OUT OF 13 US MILITARY DEATHS IN 2003 BECAUSE OF ACTUAL ENEMY ACTION 7 WERE
AT FOB SHKIN WHICH WAS SIMPLY A TACTICAL DIASASTER SITTING DUCK LOCATION
 October 2012
 DOI:
 10.13140/RG.2.2.31673.26729
 Projects:

7.  Afghanistan Studies
 Military History of India Pakistan Bangladesh Nepal Iran Afghanistan Burma Central Asian Republics
China and Turkey
 Decision Making
 Afghan War and Military History
 Anatomy of Incompetence of all kinds
 US Military History
 European History
 Agha H Amin

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