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Karma Server for Mailing Lists
• Karma server is intended for
rating the mailing lists posts
• share the ratings with frie...
Goals
• Increased involvement in the "consensus building processes"
• by making "barrier to entry" even lower
• “if it was...
•Tool for participatory decision making processes
• enabling archived discussions
• with the goal of reaching a consensus
...
• Used for a long time and in many communities
• technical standardisation bodies (IETF, W3C)
• Internet governance (Regio...
Most people are lurkers
•All these mailing lists are open!
•Anyone can participate: but how many do?
•RIPE NCC: 9000 “memb...
Not all posts are equal
• I would like to be able to RATE the posts
• I would like to be able to SHARE my ratings
• I woul...
Possible solutions:
• Modified IMAP clients, enabling rating
• Modified IMAP server
• one server for all the lists (per org....
Karma Server
•Collects tags/ratings
•Distributes tags/ratings
•Communicates with IMAP server
•Communicates with web server...
Workshop
results at
hackathon at
UnlikeUs
conference in
Amsterdam
10
10Thursday, August 1, 2013
Call to action
• Questions to YOU
• Is there interest for this?
• Is there already something like this?
• Take part - join...
To do:
• Re-write
• IMAP server software
• IMAP clients software
• Write karma server code
• Write an Internet draft / RFC...
Karma Server
• Open questions:
• unified tags or free-for-all?
• +1 / -1
• choosing to see only certain people’s tags?
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Similar implementations?
• email tagging already exists - but not sharing!
• web: "slashdot", digg, reddit
• Facebook grou...
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Karma Server for Mailing Lists

  1. 1. 1 1Thursday, August 1, 2013
  2. 2. Karma Server for Mailing Lists • Karma server is intended for rating the mailing lists posts • share the ratings with friends • & enable search within posts • Contact: BECHA@xs4all.nl @Ms_Measurements http://wiki.techinc.nl/ index.php/ Karma_server 2 2Thursday, August 1, 2013
  3. 3. Goals • Increased involvement in the "consensus building processes" • by making "barrier to entry" even lower • “if it was not on the mailing list it did not happen” • easier writing • More efficient handling of mailing list posts • saving time, by reading only rated posts ;-) • easier reading 3 3Thursday, August 1, 2013
  4. 4. •Tool for participatory decision making processes • enabling archived discussions • with the goal of reaching a consensus •Based on contributing to the discussion • by submitting the idea or proposal • by commenting • by saying “I agree” or “I disagree” Mailing lists are consensus-building tool 4 4Thursday, August 1, 2013
  5. 5. • Used for a long time and in many communities • technical standardisation bodies (IETF, W3C) • Internet governance (Regional Internet Registries, ICANN) • technical communities (NANOG, UKNOF, NLNOG...) • free and open software (and hardware) communities (RedHat, bufferbloat) • community projects such as hackerspaces • artists & activists at nettime, ... Mailing lists as a consensus-building tool 5 5Thursday, August 1, 2013
  6. 6. Most people are lurkers •All these mailing lists are open! •Anyone can participate: but how many do? •RIPE NCC: 9000 “members”, 20+ lists, 1000’s people subscribed: 100 people “write” •NANOG: 1000’s subscribed, 100’s “write” •Rating could make this easier 6 6Thursday, August 1, 2013
  7. 7. Not all posts are equal • I would like to be able to RATE the posts • I would like to be able to SHARE my ratings • I would like to be able to SEE my friend’s ratings of mailing-list posts • I would like to be able to FIND tagged posts • ... and I want to do it in my email client! • others may want to use web / forum interface 7 7Thursday, August 1, 2013
  8. 8. Possible solutions: • Modified IMAP clients, enabling rating • Modified IMAP server • one server for all the lists (per org.) • accepting ratings from clients • able to share the ratings • And/or additional karma server 8 8Thursday, August 1, 2013
  9. 9. Karma Server •Collects tags/ratings •Distributes tags/ratings •Communicates with IMAP server •Communicates with web server 9 9Thursday, August 1, 2013
  10. 10. Workshop results at hackathon at UnlikeUs conference in Amsterdam 10 10Thursday, August 1, 2013
  11. 11. Call to action • Questions to YOU • Is there interest for this? • Is there already something like this? • Take part - join our project • Based on the ideas of: Emile Aben, Arnd Marijnissen, and Vesna Manojlovic // BECHA@xs4all.nl // @Ms_Measurements • http://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/Karma_server • https://github.com/becha42/karma-server-project 11 11Thursday, August 1, 2013
  12. 12. To do: • Re-write • IMAP server software • IMAP clients software • Write karma server code • Write an Internet draft / RFC about it (which working group?) • Maintain the GitHub for code • Promotion & community building • RIPE (NCC), NANOG, IETF... would have to start up new IMAP servers / services • “Everyone” would have to install new clients • “Everyone” would have to subscribe to the new IMAP servers 12 12Thursday, August 1, 2013
  13. 13. Karma Server • Open questions: • unified tags or free-for-all? • +1 / -1 • choosing to see only certain people’s tags? 13 13Thursday, August 1, 2013
  14. 14. Similar implementations? • email tagging already exists - but not sharing! • web: "slashdot", digg, reddit • Facebook groups • RIPE NCC has the rating of posts, as web app, only for wg-chairs • perlmonks.org (encourages voting) 14 14Thursday, August 1, 2013

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