This Time is Different Syndrome

Syndrome        Financial Crises are things that
                  happen to other people in
                other countries in other times.
Past Crises

Types            We do things better, we are
                 smarter and we’ve learned
Was it            from our past mistakes.
Different

What’ve         We’ll know about a crisis long
we               enough before it happens.
learned?
The Great Depression 1929
              • No World War is coming.
Syndrome
              • We have great political
                stability.
Past Crises
              • Strong sustainable
Types           economic growth by
                exports.
Was it        • Debt burden in
Different       developing countries
                were low.
What’ve       • Relentless global
we              optimism.
learned?
The Great Depression 1929
    • Formation of Bubble.
    • Accumulation of debts
    • Shrinking money
      supply by wrong
      economic policies
    • Stock market crash
    • Banking crises
Latin America Debt Crises 80’s

Syndrome
              •   Commodity prices are strong.
              •   Low interest rates.
Past Crises
              •   Oil money is being recycled.
Types         •   Heavy investments.
Was it        •   Bank loans instead of bond
Different         loans.
What’ve
we
learned?
Latin America Debt Crises 80’s

Syndrome

Past Crises

Types

Was it
Different

What’ve
we
learned?
Asia debt crises 1997

Syndrome
                • Conservative fiscal policy
Past Crises
                • Stable exchange rates
Types           • High rates of growth
Was it          • High rates of savings
Different       • No remembered history of
What’ve           financial crises.
we              • Rise of Asian Tigers.
learned?
Asia debt crises 1997

Syndrome
                • Bubble of “hot”
Past Crises       money.
                • Increase in US $
Types             interest rate.
                • Cutting peg to US $.
Was it          • Crises of confidence.
Different
                • Large withdrawal of
What’ve           cash from Asian
we                countries.
learned?
Latin America Debt Crises 90’s

Syndrome
              •   Bond debts (opposite of 80s).
              •   No desire to repeat 80s crises.
Past Crises   •   More democracies than 80s.
Types         •   Mexico in NAFTA

Was it
Different

What’ve
we
learned?
Subprime Mortgage Crisis 2008

Syndrome
              • Powerful economy and world
Past Crises
                domination.
Types         • Rise in House prices.
Was it        • Huge investment in Real Estate.
Different
              • Loans for mortgage.
What’ve       • Formation of Housing Bubble.
we
learned?
Greece Debt

Syndrome
              • As part of a strong monetary union, a trust
Past Crises     was maintained.
              • Since it joined the Eurozone, it has ceded
Types           control of monetary policy to the ECB and
                can no longer print money
Was it        • Greece had not a credible financial reporting
Different       of its fiscal position.
              • Two of its largest industries, maritime
What’ve         shipping and tourism were hit strongly from
we              the global economic downturn.
learned?
Greece Debt

Syndrome      • If Greece were to default
                on its debt payments it
Past Crises     would amount to the
                biggest sovereign default
Types           in history, bigger than
                that of Russia and
                Argentina combined.
Was it
Different
              • If Greece were to
What’ve         default, it would raise
we              fears that the crisis will
learned?        spread to other Eurozone
                members.
Types of Crises

Syndrome

Past Crises                     Crises Episodes
Types
              External        Domestic     Banking    Inflation    Currency
              Default          Default      Crisis   and related    Crash
Was it
Different       Illiquidity
                                Domestic
                                Currency

What’ve                          Foreign
               Insolvency
we                              Currency
learned?
I. Sovereign External Debt
                             Consequences
Syndrome

Past Crises    Loss of economy reputation and trust.


Types              Decrease FDI and investment run.

Was it
                    No access to international fund (Greece 1800s).
Different

What’ve            Followed by Banking crises.
we
learned?       High inflation and low growth.
1st Fully Recorded Default
I. Sovereign External Debt

                Number of Defaults of
Country
                Rescheduling since 1800
CANADA                      0
CHINA                       2
EGYPT                       2
GERMANY                     8
INDIA                       3
INDONESIA                   4
MEXICO                      8
SINGAPORE                   0
USA                         0
All countries              250
I. Sovereign External Debt
                                    Solutions
Syndrome
               Cut lender heads (King Philip IV & knight Templars)
Past Crises

Types               Force to pay by invasion or union (Britain and Egypt 1881,
                    US and Haiti 1915, Canada and Newfoundland 1936-1949)

Was it
                     Short term borrowing (for illiquidity crises)
Different

What’ve             Improve economic performance

we
learned?       Rescheduling (Russia with Odious debts)
II. Sovereign Domestic Debt

Syndrome       Usually in domestic currency.

Past Crises
                   Usually long-term (50-80%).

Types
                      Comprises 40-70% of all public debts.
Was it
Different             Since 1800 AD, only 70 defaults or rescheduling.


What’ve            Too rare to have domestic default because it’s easily
                   manageable by inflation.
we
learned?       Built up more rapidly after external debts (Argentina in
               1982,1989, 2001).
II. Sovereign Domestic Debt
                               Solutions
Syndrome
                Kings seize lands and cut heads (Philip IV and
Past Crises     Knight Templars 1307)

Types
                    Debasement (with metal coins)
Was it
Different
                    Inflation (most famous solution)
What’ve
we
learned?        Economy restructuring
III. Banking Crisis
III. Banking Crisis
                                  Consequences
Syndrome

Past Crises       Very sharp decrease in TAX revenues.


Types
                       High rise in sovereign debts (Spain 70s).
Was it
Different
                       Costly wave of recession (Japan in 90s until now).
What’ve
we
learned?          Cause all other crises.
IV. Inflation
              Country      Max % Inflation since 1800   Year
Syndrome                       or Independence
              CANADA       23.8                         1917
Past Crises   CHINA        1579.3                       1947
              EGYPT        40.8                         1941
Types         GERMANY      2.22 * E 10                  1923
              GREECE       3.02 * E 10                  1944
Was it        HUNGARY      9.63 * E 26                  1946
Different
              INDIA        53.8                         1943
              INDONESIA    939.8                        1966
What’ve
              MEXICO       131.8                        1987
we
learned?      SINGAPORE    23.5                         1973
              USA          24                           1864
V. Currency Crash
- Dollarization $$$
- Hysteresis
- Loss control of economy planning
Banking Crisis



Default on external
AND/OR domestic                         Currency crash
       debt




      Peak of bank crisis
                                  Inflation crisis
        (if no default)
Was it different?
                The great
Syndrome       depression
                  1929       Banking Crises.
              Latin America External and domestic defaults, banking
Past Crises     debts 80s crises, inflation crises.

Types          Asian debt    Currency crash, external defaults, banking
               crisis 1997   crises.
Was it        Latin America External and domestic defaults, banking
Different       debts 90s crises, currency crash.
                Subprime
What’ve         Mortgage
                  crises    Banking crisis.
we
learned?      Greece debt
                 crisis   Banking crisis, external default.
What’ve we learned?

Syndrome       There’s nothing new except what’s
               forgotten.
Past Crises
               No country have ever escaped economic
Types          crises.
Was it         Crises are not different, only the approach
Different      to solution is what makes the difference.
What’ve        Economic sustainability is all about balance
we             of all economic aspects.
learned?
This time is different

This time is different

  • 3.
    This Time isDifferent Syndrome Syndrome Financial Crises are things that happen to other people in other countries in other times. Past Crises Types We do things better, we are smarter and we’ve learned Was it from our past mistakes. Different What’ve We’ll know about a crisis long we enough before it happens. learned?
  • 4.
    The Great Depression1929 • No World War is coming. Syndrome • We have great political stability. Past Crises • Strong sustainable Types economic growth by exports. Was it • Debt burden in Different developing countries were low. What’ve • Relentless global we optimism. learned?
  • 5.
    The Great Depression1929 • Formation of Bubble. • Accumulation of debts • Shrinking money supply by wrong economic policies • Stock market crash • Banking crises
  • 6.
    Latin America DebtCrises 80’s Syndrome • Commodity prices are strong. • Low interest rates. Past Crises • Oil money is being recycled. Types • Heavy investments. Was it • Bank loans instead of bond Different loans. What’ve we learned?
  • 7.
    Latin America DebtCrises 80’s Syndrome Past Crises Types Was it Different What’ve we learned?
  • 8.
    Asia debt crises1997 Syndrome • Conservative fiscal policy Past Crises • Stable exchange rates Types • High rates of growth Was it • High rates of savings Different • No remembered history of What’ve financial crises. we • Rise of Asian Tigers. learned?
  • 9.
    Asia debt crises1997 Syndrome • Bubble of “hot” Past Crises money. • Increase in US $ Types interest rate. • Cutting peg to US $. Was it • Crises of confidence. Different • Large withdrawal of What’ve cash from Asian we countries. learned?
  • 10.
    Latin America DebtCrises 90’s Syndrome • Bond debts (opposite of 80s). • No desire to repeat 80s crises. Past Crises • More democracies than 80s. Types • Mexico in NAFTA Was it Different What’ve we learned?
  • 11.
    Subprime Mortgage Crisis2008 Syndrome • Powerful economy and world Past Crises domination. Types • Rise in House prices. Was it • Huge investment in Real Estate. Different • Loans for mortgage. What’ve • Formation of Housing Bubble. we learned?
  • 12.
    Greece Debt Syndrome • As part of a strong monetary union, a trust Past Crises was maintained. • Since it joined the Eurozone, it has ceded Types control of monetary policy to the ECB and can no longer print money Was it • Greece had not a credible financial reporting Different of its fiscal position. • Two of its largest industries, maritime What’ve shipping and tourism were hit strongly from we the global economic downturn. learned?
  • 13.
    Greece Debt Syndrome • If Greece were to default on its debt payments it Past Crises would amount to the biggest sovereign default Types in history, bigger than that of Russia and Argentina combined. Was it Different • If Greece were to What’ve default, it would raise we fears that the crisis will learned? spread to other Eurozone members.
  • 14.
    Types of Crises Syndrome PastCrises Crises Episodes Types External Domestic Banking Inflation Currency Default Default Crisis and related Crash Was it Different Illiquidity Domestic Currency What’ve Foreign Insolvency we Currency learned?
  • 15.
    I. Sovereign ExternalDebt Consequences Syndrome Past Crises Loss of economy reputation and trust. Types Decrease FDI and investment run. Was it No access to international fund (Greece 1800s). Different What’ve Followed by Banking crises. we learned? High inflation and low growth.
  • 16.
  • 17.
    I. Sovereign ExternalDebt Number of Defaults of Country Rescheduling since 1800 CANADA 0 CHINA 2 EGYPT 2 GERMANY 8 INDIA 3 INDONESIA 4 MEXICO 8 SINGAPORE 0 USA 0 All countries 250
  • 18.
    I. Sovereign ExternalDebt Solutions Syndrome Cut lender heads (King Philip IV & knight Templars) Past Crises Types Force to pay by invasion or union (Britain and Egypt 1881, US and Haiti 1915, Canada and Newfoundland 1936-1949) Was it Short term borrowing (for illiquidity crises) Different What’ve Improve economic performance we learned? Rescheduling (Russia with Odious debts)
  • 19.
    II. Sovereign DomesticDebt Syndrome Usually in domestic currency. Past Crises Usually long-term (50-80%). Types Comprises 40-70% of all public debts. Was it Different Since 1800 AD, only 70 defaults or rescheduling. What’ve Too rare to have domestic default because it’s easily manageable by inflation. we learned? Built up more rapidly after external debts (Argentina in 1982,1989, 2001).
  • 20.
    II. Sovereign DomesticDebt Solutions Syndrome Kings seize lands and cut heads (Philip IV and Past Crises Knight Templars 1307) Types Debasement (with metal coins) Was it Different Inflation (most famous solution) What’ve we learned? Economy restructuring
  • 21.
  • 22.
    III. Banking Crisis Consequences Syndrome Past Crises Very sharp decrease in TAX revenues. Types High rise in sovereign debts (Spain 70s). Was it Different Costly wave of recession (Japan in 90s until now). What’ve we learned? Cause all other crises.
  • 24.
    IV. Inflation Country Max % Inflation since 1800 Year Syndrome or Independence CANADA 23.8 1917 Past Crises CHINA 1579.3 1947 EGYPT 40.8 1941 Types GERMANY 2.22 * E 10 1923 GREECE 3.02 * E 10 1944 Was it HUNGARY 9.63 * E 26 1946 Different INDIA 53.8 1943 INDONESIA 939.8 1966 What’ve MEXICO 131.8 1987 we learned? SINGAPORE 23.5 1973 USA 24 1864
  • 25.
    V. Currency Crash -Dollarization $$$ - Hysteresis - Loss control of economy planning
  • 26.
    Banking Crisis Default onexternal AND/OR domestic Currency crash debt Peak of bank crisis Inflation crisis (if no default)
  • 27.
    Was it different? The great Syndrome depression 1929 Banking Crises. Latin America External and domestic defaults, banking Past Crises debts 80s crises, inflation crises. Types Asian debt Currency crash, external defaults, banking crisis 1997 crises. Was it Latin America External and domestic defaults, banking Different debts 90s crises, currency crash. Subprime What’ve Mortgage crises Banking crisis. we learned? Greece debt crisis Banking crisis, external default.
  • 28.
    What’ve we learned? Syndrome There’s nothing new except what’s forgotten. Past Crises No country have ever escaped economic Types crises. Was it Crises are not different, only the approach Different to solution is what makes the difference. What’ve Economic sustainability is all about balance we of all economic aspects. learned?